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| Quote ="Towns88"I will utilise the polish for when we win the cup in august.'"
The only way anyone from Cas will be getting their hands on the cup is if somebody from there steals it. Although there is a fair chance of that happening i suppose.
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| Quote ="Towns88"I will utilise the polish for when we win the cup in august.'"
Use some of that turd polish that Powell has used during the close season. It's certainly done an effective job so far.
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| We will loan you it I am sure. #lovethyneighbour.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Lets hope he brings all the old skills to the field and plays a blinder on Sunday.'"
I want to believe it will help but stinks of despair..as I saw written, how much have we spent when we cannot afford ,it seems, to sack an obviously failing coach? Mr Carter, if you cannot see that Richard Agar is not a fit head coach then you are not a fit Chairman or whatever they call you these days. I really hope this discontent is passed on. I am not attending and wont whilst you keep Agar, sorry but thats my view. It is better to force constructive change than appease failure. Pass it on to those in charge. The majority want him out and there is no way forward for me till he is gone.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"I want to believe it will help but stinks of despair..as I saw written, how much have we spent when we cannot afford ,it seems, to sack an obviously failing coach? Mr Carter, if you cannot see that Richard Agar is not a fit head coach then you are not a fit Chairman or whatever they call you these days. I really hope this discontent is passed on. I am not attending and wont whilst you keep Agar, sorry but thats my view. It is better to force constructive change than appease failure. Pass it on to those in charge. The majority want him out and there is no way forward for me till he is gone.'"
MC is a smart bloke, he is backing RA with the budget to make signings.
He is allowing RA to build a team of his own, so that if they don't perform again next season he has no excuse about geling and not knowing who his best players are in what positions.
Only trouble is, will there be any fans left to watch or care next year?
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"I want to believe it will help but stinks of despair..as I saw written, how much have we spent when we cannot afford ,it seems, to sack an obviously failing coach? Mr Carter, if you cannot see that Richard Agar is not a fit head coach then you are not a fit Chairman or whatever they call you these days. I really hope this discontent is passed on. I am not attending and wont whilst you keep Agar, sorry but thats my view. It is better to force constructive change than appease failure. Pass it on to those in charge. The majority want him out and there is no way forward for me till he is gone.'"
I ask again how do you know that you speak for the majority. I would conservatively put those on the forum that regularly make this point will not exceed 20. The fact that some do multiple posts under different threads does not constitute a majority.
I am amazed that you have the audacity to call the chairman because he does not do what you want. I would suggest if you and your happy band want change you get the money together to buy the current owners out. This will then enable you to appoint who you want to coach however, you will need to be thick skinned when they start criticising your choice on here.
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| Quote ="Towns88"I will utilise the polish for when we win the cup in august.'"
Here I was thinking you were even pathetic when it came to trolling but now I can clearly see your nuts!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I ask again how do you know that you speak for the majority. I would conservatively put those on the forum that regularly make this point will not exceed 20. The fact that some do multiple posts under different threads does not constitute a majority.
I am amazed that you have the audacity to call the chairman because he does not do what you want. I would suggest if you and your happy band want change you get the money together to buy the current owners out. This will then enable you to appoint who you want to coach however, you will need to be thick skinned when they start criticising your choice on here.'"
And how do you know he doesn't speak for the majority?
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| The falling attendances and mood on the terraces suggests there are significant sections - in my mind a already a majority - who are sick of what they see.
I can't say if Smith will leave, as I've no crystal ball; for the same reason, I can't predict if Gilmour will be handy cover. But I do watch a team that seems to have limited spirit, organisation and, quite frankly, appears to be playing below what on paper the squad looks capable of, and I'm not convinced that injuries and 'gelling' aren't being used as excuses for deeper problems. I read and see Agar interviewed, and get from it no suggestion that he is capable of leading us to anything like the performances that would be necessary to take us anywhere. And I do hear rumours of player dissatisfaction, and whilst these aren't substantiated, they seem plausible, and I'd would understand if decent players wanted out at the end of the season.
Still, as we are being told off for being negative, so here's looking forward to 2024, by which time multiple Lance Todd and Man of Steel winners Richard Mathers, Harry Siejka, Reece Lynn and Danny Washbrook have all celbrated 10 year testimonials.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"And how do you know he doesn't speak for the majority?'"
Well for one thing he says he isn't attending any games any more.
So although you are of course allowed to be a fan without coming to games, I'm not sure you can put yourself in the majority.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well for one thing he says he isn't attending any games any more.
So although you are of course allowed to be a fan without coming to games, I'm not sure you can put yourself in the majority.'"
What utter rubbish. People are starting to stay away because of the garbage that Agars team is producing. They are the clubs supporters whether you like it or not and have already cast their vote with their feet. They are obviously part of the majority. Now of the ones who remain most of the people around me on sunday where in favour of Agar going. So if that is a snapshot of opinion then i'd say yes there's a majority. When you're just down to the last few hundred Agar-ites in the ground will the penny drop then? You know, just before the club goes bust again?
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| Someone is beginning to give the game away on here, still the majority of posters are posting without hidden agendas.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Someone is beginning to give the game away on here, still the majority of posters are posting without hidden agendas.'"
So can you give the game away publicly? I for one haven't got a clue what's going on apart from a very very poor coach.
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| Quote ="JINJER"So can you give the game away publicly? I for one haven't got a clue what's going on apart from a very very poor coach.'"
At a guess it's a certain poster, who has had a previous identity, who now seems to be going down the divide and conquer route.
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| Ok cheers, thought there was some behind the scenes rumours that I'd missed.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I ask again how do you know that you speak for the majority. I would conservatively put those on the forum that regularly make this point will not exceed 20. The fact that some do multiple posts under different threads does not constitute a majority.
I am amazed that you have the audacity to call the chairman because he does not do what you want. I would suggest if you and your happy band want change you get the money together to buy the current owners out. This will then enable you to appoint who you want to coach however, you will need to be thick skinned when they start criticising your choice on here.'"
Better to have multiple posts on different threads than multiple post under a different name?
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| Quote ="JINJER"So can you give the game away publicly? I for one haven't got a clue what's going on apart from a very very poor coach.'"
No, its nothing sinister mate.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"What utter rubbish. People are starting to stay away because of the garbage that Agars team is producing. They are the clubs supporters whether you like it or not and have already cast their vote with their feet. They are obviously part of the majority. Now of the ones who remain most of the people around me on sunday where in favour of Agar going. So if that is a snapshot of opinion then i'd say yes there's a majority. When you're just down to the last few hundred Agar-ites in the ground will the penny drop then? You know, just before the club goes bust again?'"
Ah saying something is rubbish is always a convincing argument.
But if you are right and the majority want to stay away, I'll still be there in my minority, supporting whoever puts the red white and blue on.
You do what you feel is right.
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| Under normal circumstances I wouldn't have minded this signing. Yeah it's a punt true enough and the players best days are behind him but as a short term fix in the centres, who knows could work. No denying the lads past class.
However these are not normal times and this appears yet another feeble panic stricken prod in the dark. It just stinks of utter desperation and lack of leadership ability. It seems an almost deliberate and wilfull act of self destruction by Agar.
For heavens sake MC wake up and smell the coffee, Agar wants out and he's telling you in no uncertain terms. Either you're just not twigging it or you just don't care. Can he make it more obvious as he ships out players who may actually want to fight for the clubs and replaces them with mercenaries who will do just enough to pull a wage.
The situation at the club is beginning to stink and I don't want to think like that I just want a club to support.
I've said it before, sack him now. As for who replaces him who cares, Belgium ran without an elected government for over a year and by common consent it went virtually unnoticed as the country functioned just fine.
Anyways, welcome aboard Lee and give it your best shot - it's not your fault.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ah saying something is rubbish is always a convincing argument.
But if you are right and the majority want to stay away, I'll still be there in my minority, supporting whoever puts the red white and blue on.
You do what you feel is right.'"
That's all well and good but the harsh finical realities of life means you won't be turning up in any form for very much longer on those gates. Be realistic we can't possibly have budgeted for that gate.
We will be in admin by July at this rate - fact - let's be realistic, it's more than just performances that are the problem here.
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| The poll on here is 63% for Agar out, crowds are down to 3K and falling, everyone I talk to have had enough and voting with their feet.I'd say that IS the majority. Not so long ago this team regularly attracted 6, 7 sometimes 8K, with plenty of casual supporters happy to see a team making progress giving their all. This lot can't even get some of the season ticket holders to come, how bad is that? When is wonderful Agar gonna inject some fight into this team? Motivate them? Fire them up for the challenge? Pick a team of battlers? Same old same old week after week. If I thought he was at least getting the team fired up I would back him but I don't see it, seems to me he ain't bothered, goes through the motions as if he's running a pub team.
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| vastman - while I agree with most of your post I think its a bit unfair to suggest MC don't care.Anyone who puts their home on the line must care for gods sake would you put yours on the line I know I wouldn't have as much as I love this club.I think Agar has reverted to his days at Hull and playing Washbrook out of position at 6 and it looks like he is playing fantasy rugby league once again.I have said before that we have never had a good defence under his tenure and have let some real soft scores in against us.
For me MC has the best interests of the club but as he said early doors he don't know much about Rugby but loves the game.
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| Quote ="vastman"That's all well and good but the harsh finical realities of life means you won't be turning up in any form for very much longer on those gates. Be realistic we can't possibly have budgeted for that gate.
We will be in admin by July at this rate - fact - let's be realistic, it's more than just performances that are the problem here.'"
You're right Vastman, the finances of the club must be taking a real hammering. We cannot surely go on with gates of less than 4k.
I thought that as I was standing on the West terrace on Sunday with huge gaps all around me. yet I cannot see the crowds improving unless there is an upsurge in form. Where the hell that's coming from I don't know.
One thing I do know is that if RA cannot lift the team for a game, of the magnitude of Sundays game, then it's probably time for someone else to have a go. I really think whoever loses that match will go down.
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| Quote ="vastman"That's all well and good but the harsh finical realities of life means you won't be turning up in any form for very much longer on those gates. Be realistic we can't possibly have budgeted for that gate.
We will be in admin by July at this rate - fact - let's be realistic, it's more than just performances that are the problem here.'"
Steady old boy the last man who said we will be in admin was shot on here
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ah saying something is rubbish is always a convincing argument.
But if you are right and the majority want to stay away, I'll still be there in my minority, supporting whoever puts the red white and blue on.
You do what you feel is right.'"
Thats all very noble but the longer people are just dutifully willing to accept the dirge we are seeing on a too regular basis then the more likely the club will suffer until it gets to a point where it can carry on no longer. And saying that someone who has already decided enough is enough and stopped coming through the gate due to Agars failings is not part of the majority is not just rubbish, its plain daft. Just maybe the fans can force change by showing their disatisfaction by whatever way they deem fit.
As it happens, mainly due to the fact Bradford are even worse than us, i think we might just sneak a win next weekend. But it doesn't alter the fact that i think its time for a change and the sooner the better.
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