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| Kear called the TWO points on the first penalty in Leeds' half.
Once it had been ran he gave the THUMBS UP to whoever made the decision to run it as it brought us another penalty.
you win some, you lose some, get over it.
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| Quote ="1991"Kear called the TWO points on the first penalty in Leeds' half.
Once it had been ran he gave the THUMBS UP to whoever made the decision to run it as it brought us another penalty.
you win some, you lose some, get over it.'"
Think you may find that Kear called for the 2 on the second penalty.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He didn't ignore his coach, he made a decision.
Kear is 100 yards behind him. He didn't ignore him.
As far as I am concerned Brough proved tonight that he is better when he is in charge. We need to find, or develop a line breaking running stand off, not an organiser. Let Brough be in charge. It worked better tonight when he directed play.
The kick still wouldn't have won us the game anyway. They scored 6 ytries to our 4, so Brough was what was keeping us in it for God's sake.
I know we like to find a scape goat but it isn't him.
To be honest all the players that have recently taken criticism proved a point tonight.
Grix did well on his wing
Korki was awesome
Petersen worked very hard (though a couple of mistakes were irritating)
and Obst was the best tackler we had. Outstanding. Wish he'd been stood where Atkins was when Senior came running. He took him everytime he ran at him on the wing.
Right, off to bed know. Going out with some Leeds fans tomorrow so need my strength
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Yes by taking the points when on offer, which was the obvious game plan going by previous decisions in the game.
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| never mind chaps, take heart and just put it down to experience. You will have to learn how to close out games...thats one of the things that make a champion side.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"never mind chaps, take heart and just put it down to experience. You will have to learn how to close out games...thats one of the things that make a champion side.'"
After just reading the whole thread i wait untill the last post for someone to "put the finger on the button".
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| Quote ="Haywire"Surely Broughy (or possibly Drew?) has to take the blame for (apparently) ignoring his coach? If we had scored he would have been jack the lad, but we didn't so he needs to shoulder the blame in my opinion.'"
I'm sure he will get the blame from Kear if this is what happened. However I will not be blaming him as I think he made the right choice. I blame Blaymire for the breakdown of that spell of pressure due to his indecision that gave leeds a penalty and a get out from their own 20. It's all ifs and buts after the decision has been made but regardless of what happened after at the time with leeds having 12 men and losing their heads keeping the pressure on and going for a try/running down the clock was the best option.
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| At that time I didn't think the extra two points was as much of a benefit as the possible 6 and the extra time we could spend running the clock down at the Leeds end. What cocked us up was the penalty for crossing.
Don't know who was responsible as I cleared the Sky+ as soon as i got in.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Yes by taking the points when on offer, which was the obvious game plan going by previous decisions in the game.'"
It wasn't an obvious gameplan, your statement is wrong.
Previous to turning down this opportunity we accepted the two points on offer three times. Twice while we were down to twelve men which were both obviously the correct calls taking that into consideration, and the other time when the scores were tied at 16 all, so obviously beneficial to edge us back in front after Leeds had started the 2nd half really well.
Just going back to another point whether it is right to overule your coach, I think in some circumstances the players have a better feeling of what to do at the time, so I have no problem with it.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"At that time I didn't think the extra two points was as much of a benefit as the possible 6 and the extra time we could spend running the clock down at the Leeds end. What cocked us up was the penalty for crossing.
Don't know who was responsible as I cleared the Sky+ as soon as i got in.
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I put it on a disc if you want to but it from me [size=59 by the way it was Ferres who caused the problem.[/size
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| Quote ="JINJER"Shocking defence??I thought that for 70 minutes that was our best defensive display of the season,you must have seen some real quality games that i've missed this season if you thought that was shocking,i'd say 5 minutes of stupidity cost us the game,not taking 2 when we had 3 penalties cost us the game.
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NRL is rather tastey !! No the pack was really good but i thought we were terrible on the fringes... Once Leo went off in the second half injured and was the only one making the tackles on that right hand side we really struggled and it cost us the game...
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| Quote ="upthecats"It wasn't an obvious gameplan, your statement is wrong.
Previous to turning down this opportunity we accepted the two points on offer three times. Twice while we were down to twelve men which were both obviously the correct calls taking that into consideration, and the other time when the scores were tied at 16 all, so obviously beneficial to edge us back in front after Leeds had started the 2nd half really well.
Just going back to another point whether it is right to overule your coach, I think in some circumstances the players have a better feeling of what to do at the time, so I have no problem with it.'"
Why is it wrong ?? are you saying we would not have taken them if we had 13 men on the field ?? we needed to get back in the game.
Look back we always take points on offer in kickable positions.
8 points in front and time ticking away we should have taken the 2 and got set for a short kick off. JK was right and whoever made the decision ought to get a right bollocking.
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| JK publicly backed his players for the decision in the aftermatch interview. Whether he does this behind closed doors is another matter. I actually thought running it was the correct option, we wasted valuable minutes and had we scored a try it was definitely game over. Full credit to Leeds, absolutely gutted but thats why theyre champions, they never give in. This should spur us on now in our push for the top 8, the boys can take a lot of positives (and a few negatives to put right) out of the game and it bodes well for an exciting finish to our season. Hopefully we will react in the right manner and improve week on week starting with Saints away next week where the performance will be equally if not more important than the result.
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| great game and a great performance from our lads against the best team in SL for my money we did the right thing in not going for goal if we had Leeds would have gone for a short kick off and gained position
Crap end to one of the worst weeks in my life they say they come in 3s hope that the end now
Proud of the lads last night deserved more than the 6420 gate
by the way Vastman the glass was 80% full
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"JK publicly backed his players for the decision in the aftermatch interview. Whether he does this behind closed doors is another matter. I actually thought running it was the correct option, we wasted valuable minutes and had we scored a try it was definitely game over. Full credit to Leeds, absolutely gutted but thats why theyre champions, they never give in. This should spur us on now in our push for the top 8, the boys can take a lot of positives (and a few negatives to put right) out of the game and it bodes well for an exciting finish to our season. Hopefully we will react in the right manner and improve week on week starting with Saints away next week where the performance will be equally if not more important than the result.'" I too thought it was the right decision at the time but when they scored to be within two points, I would of liked broughy to change the kick off to a low hard direction to the touch line on the wing to try and force an error,
we just ended up putting it up for them to throw about, it paid off for them as it could of easily been knocked on, what we have to learn is they have to chance our arm more often
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| Right decision to run it. We should be good enough to run through the set without the risk of penalising ourselve. And even then we should have been good enough in defence to still win.
Still gutted but the lads were the better side and didn't lose for the want of effort anf enthusiasm
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| I thought the decision was right at the time. On reflection and seeing it on Sky+ I feel maybe you were not fit enough for the 80 mins. Leeds although playing poorly seemed to be still full of running in the last 10 whilst Wakefield seemed to run out of steam and dropped off tackles.
Running out of steam against a side who failed to complete a decent % of their sets and who's ball retention was poor certainly doesnt bode well for the run in.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"As a neutral it was a fantastic game to watch. Wakey played some quality rugby and Peterson stood out for working his butt off all night long, even when he was hearing birds tweeting around his head. All that effort and yet no result. Such a damn shame. I was ho by the end of the match, shouting you guys on. You so deserved to win.
What was wrong with Ganson tonight I don't know but there should have been two yellows for Leeds, not just one. And to give Wakey offside at such a crucial point when he hadn't given Leeds the knock on just moments before was a disgrace IMO.
And we won't mention the usual forward pass try given to Leeds. There seems to be one in every match this season.
Two things stand out though: why on earth Brough ignored his coach for that two points. Stupid, stupid. And I think Wakey began to tire with 10 to go. Just when they needed to defend like their lives depended upon it, they began falling off tackles and letting Leeds offload. If Wakey can play at that intensity for the full 80 and play such cracking rugby as they did tonight, then there's no reason to believe they won't be up there in the top four come playoff time. But they have to keep it up.
Grrr! I'm cross! That should have been a Wakey win!'"
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| can someone explain the reason to the penalty when atkins tackled senior, peto was behind him with hands on atkins two on one should be ruled and I didn't think it was a strip, no worse than on bibey
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| Quote ="tigerman11"had to laugh happened to Cas soooooo many times this year even against Leeds so we know how it feels but PMSL it was funny watching it happen to waky made my weekend that has cheers guys......'"
Quote ="tigerman10"up the rhinos
and i never thought i would hear myselfsay that, buy i really enjoyed that one'"
Thanks for the posts lads, you ought to come on here more often, no seriously its always good to read light hearted banter. One thing puzzles me we have tigerman 10 and 11 whatever happened to 1 to 9? probably grew up who knows. One thing for sure I hope that when the new model comes out tigerman 12 he's a bit more original and if its not too much to ask a bit more intelligent
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| Quote ="darwoo11"I thought the decision was right at the time. On reflection and seeing it on Sky+ I feel maybe you were not fit enough for the 80 mins. Leeds although playing poorly seemed to be still full of running in the last 10 whilst Wakefield seemed to run out of steam and dropped off tackles.
Running out of steam against a side who failed to complete a decent % of their sets and who's ball retention was poor certainly doesnt bode well for the run in.'"
I don't know if it as simple as lasting the 80 minutes. The energy of teams seems to go in phases throughout a game, at times earlier in the second half Leeds looked the more jaded. With tails up and 3 minutes to go though, adrenaline and the water carrier's magic can make a big difference.
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| Quote ="chissitt"eusa_clap.gif Thanks for the posts lads, you ought to come on here more often, no seriously its always good to read light hearted banter. One thing puzzles me we have tigerman 10 and 11 whatever happened to 1 to 9? probably grew up who knows. One thing for sure I hope that when the new model comes out tigerman 12 he's a bit more original and if its not too much to ask a bit more intelligent
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Got to love the cas fans getting all giddy while languishing behind us in the table! Happy days!
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Hope we can laugh at a Cas downfall later in the season. What goes around comes around.'"
maybe you can, but I think whats been around as come back around.
After all youve only got St's next, then us eh
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| Quote ="tigerman1+1"had to laugh happened to Cas soooooo many times this year even against Leeds so we know how it feels but PMSL it was funny watching it happen to waky made my weekend that has cheers guys......'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"eusa_clap.gif Thanks for the posts lads, you ought to come on here more often, no seriously its always good to read light hearted banter. One thing puzzles me we have tigerman 10 and 11 whatever happened to 1 to 9? probably grew up who knows. One thing for sure I hope that when the new model comes out tigerman 12 he's a bit more original and if its not too much to ask a bit more intelligent
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