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| the way that we have gone on after the season start says only 1 thing to me..jk doesnt want us in super league! he has other motives imho!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm not going to blow smoke up your arris old lad - NL1 is in no way, shape or form more entertaining than SL and that, I'm afraid, is a fact.
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That's a matter of opinion, not a fact. Exciting SL games on TV are few and far between, the same can't be said for the Championship which are regularly evenly fought contests. Players are not as big, fast and strong, I'll give you that, but,in my opinion, their pure footballing skills are just as good but with more time and space to express themselves.
Regarding the patronising bit, well personally, I couldn't care less what happens to your club. Perhaps what doesn't sit well with you is the fact that my club has made a remarkably positive effort to go forward, much more so than Wakefield, and without the benefit of Sky's millions at that.
If Rovers can do it then so can any other club in the Championship is all I was saying. No need for the nastiness.
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| most fans know the way a super league club is chosen is wrong crusaders and london are both weaker clubs than wakey but they wont be dropped. if it is you then it a discrace but not a suprise!
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Some of you really deserve championship rugby league. The way you talk about it and slag it off is sad and you will at least learn a lesson about the lower leagues. Your club is not too good for the championship, and several of the clubs in it would shine in the super league given the chance but they never will. It's an entertaining league but its being treated shoddily by those in charge of the game.'"
We do know about lower leagues we have been there in the past we just don't want to be there. Whats wrong with that? We as a club and a CITY have the potential under our new ownership and with NM on the horizon to be a top SL club so if we don't get a franchise it will be a shame but we will dust ourselves down and go in a professional manner to get back in SL asap
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| Quote ="Mikey T"That's a matter of opinion, not a fact. Exciting SL games on TV are few and far between, the same can't be said for the Championship which are regularly evenly fought contests. Players are not as big, fast and strong, I'll give you that, but,in my opinion, their pure footballing skills are just as good but with more time and space to express themselves.
Regarding the patronising bit, well personally, I couldn't care less what happens to your club. Perhaps what doesn't sit well with you is the fact that my club has made a remarkably positive effort to go forward, much more so than Wakefield, and without the benefit of Sky's millions at that.
If Rovers can do it then so can any other club in the Championship is all I was saying. No need for the nastiness.'"
To say you couldnt care less about us you always seem to be on here. In what ways have fev gone more forward than Wakefield? Community, schools, crowds, academy, scholarship, away fans experience? I'm not getting into a wakey fev fight no doubt that will happen if we go down at post office road but what have fev done to move more forward than wakefield?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Some of you really deserve championship rugby league. The way you talk about it and slag it off is sad and you will at least learn a lesson about the lower leagues. Your club is not too good for the championship, and several of the clubs in it would shine in the super league given the chance but they never will. It's an entertaining league but its being treated shoddily by those in charge of the game.'"
Learn a lesson? You seem to forget that we've been there, done that and bought the replica shirt.
Sanctimonious ar5e.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"To say you couldnt care less about us you always seem to be on here. In what ways have fev gone more forward than Wakefield? Community, schools, crowds, academy, scholarship, away fans experience? I'm not getting into a wakey fev fight no doubt that will happen if we go down at post office road but what have fev done to move more forward than wakefield?'"
Work commenced on revamped ground is pretty substantial wouldn't you say? This and the other attributes, apart from crowds which we don't inflate like some, have been achieved without the SL funding that Wakefield have had. Pretty remarkable I'd say.
By the way I come on here about twice a week much the same as I visit other clubs boards. I'm a RL fan and like to see what's going on.
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| Quote ="Mikey T"Work commenced on revamped ground is pretty substantial wouldn't you say? This and the other attributes, apart from crowds which we don't inflate like some, have been achieved without the SL funding that Wakefield have had. Pretty remarkable I'd say.
By the way I come on here about twice a week much the same as I visit other clubs boards. I'm a RL fan and like to see what's going on.'"
So you have plans to do up POR we have plans for the community stadium that have been called in PI hopefully sorted soon and fully funded so that's that sorted what about the other stuff ?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So you have plans to do up POR we have plans for the community stadium that have been called in PI hopefully sorted soon and fully funded so that's that sorted what about the other stuff ?'"
Read my second sentence, we do as much as Wakey and most other SL clubs ie Youth structures, Schools, Scholarships, Education for all etc etc but without Sky funding. And without going bust.
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| Quote ="Mikey T"Read my second sentence, we do as much as Wakey and most other SL clubs ie Youth structures, Schools, Scholarships, Education for all etc etc but without Sky funding. And without going bust.'"
You seem to be under the misconception that Sky funding is anything other than a subsidy towards part of the players' higher wages.
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| Quote ="spook2011"the answer is YES!
look at Oldham or Swinton and replace with Wakefield thats the future if we lose this franchise'"
Add to them the likes of Fev, Dewsbury, Workington it would be a long slow death new young fans would go off to support the SL clubs
Divorced from ALL RL if we lose out
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| Quote ="Mikey T"That's a matter of opinion, not a fact. Exciting SL games on TV are few and far between, the same can't be said for the Championship which are regularly evenly fought contests. Players are not as big, fast and strong, I'll give you that, but,in my opinion, their pure footballing skills are just as good but with more time and space to express themselves.
Regarding the patronising bit, well personally, I couldn't care less what happens to your club. Perhaps what doesn't sit well with you is the fact that my club has made a remarkably positive effort to go forward, much more so than Wakefield, and without the benefit of Sky's millions at that.
If Rovers can do it then so can any other club in the Championship is all I was saying. No need for the nastiness.'"
and despite this how many people can be d to turn out and watch Featherstone the Championship is a death sentence long term for ALL clubs most dont even get 1000 through the gate
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| Im obviously in the minority but I can't say Im that bothered about going down to the Nation League.
Good honest Rugby, and all about the game, not fancy stadiums? Not that bad.
As people say we may end up in obscurity but we have to face it, theres a very strong chance we will lose our license so thats where we are going anyway.
Plus I fancy a trip to Blackpool
Wherever we play, whatever division I shall remain a season ticket holder until my (or the clubs) last breath.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"[uIm obviously in the minority[/u but I can't say Im that bothered about going down to the Nation League.
Good honest Rugby, and all about the game, not fancy stadiums? Not that bad.
As people say we may end up in obscurity but we have to face it, [utheres a very strong chance we will lose our license so thats where we are going anyway.[/u
Plus I fancy a trip to Blackpool
Wherever we play, whatever division I shall remain a season ticket holder until my (or the clubs) last breath.'"
Its not so much the relegation, but the manner in which its been done. Crusaders,Cas,KR,Salford, and Quins all recruiting for next year already, you tell me how that works then and not be bitter.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Its not so much the relegation, but the manner in which its been done. Crusaders,Cas,KR,Salford, and Quins all recruiting for next year already, you tell me how that works then and not be bitter.'"
I understand that totally. It stinks but we have to accept it and try to move forward.
For the good of OUR club if nothing else.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I understand that totally. It stinks but we have to accept it and try to move forward.
For the good of OUR club if nothing else.'"
Well I share your sentiments if no one else does.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Thats a long winded way of saying yes really.
The problem i have always though is, that buy and large the people of Wakefield (and i speak on the behalf of mostly all of them) are an apathetic bunch.
So if it is the case of SL or nothing, we may as well have packed in years ago, ok with P & R you always had a chance, but to think that we have no chance without P & R we may as well be dead now and save everyone the bother, because on assumption, we must remain at the top level for ever, and that in reality for a club like ours (being at risk for 2 out of 2 franchises) is not the case.'"
If Wakey were playing in our back garden, the wife would close the curtains that's how much she likes rugby, has it ever occurred to you that quite a lot of people in Wakefield aren't interested in rugby, so why you feel the need to lambast the general public who clearly have no interest in an overpriced unsuccessful product beats me, surely the way forward is to entice the stay away's back, but there lies the problem because to do that you will have to give them something a little more than what is on offer at the moment, and to that I say good luck.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Well I share your sentiments if no one else does.'"
Good good. Its the only way unfortunately.
But I do share peoples sentiments - great work the RFL!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I understand that totally. It stinks but we have to accept it and try to move forward.
For the good of OUR club if nothing else.'"
I fully understand the sentiments and if everybody thought the same we would do fine, unfortunately everybody has different thoughts on the matter and I think for every one like you and KK what are thinking positively there will be two what won't see it your way.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I understand that totally. It stinks but we have to accept it and try to move forward.
For the good of OUR club if nothing else.'"
I agree I'm a Wakefield fan but not a proud RL fan any more, I used to be at challenge cup final internations etc every year and spreading the RL gospel to all non RL fans but not anymore. It gets me that if we are down then why? When ours is not the weakest app but we could go on all day about this. If the worse happened I'd like us not to sulk but keep on the good work off the field get a competitive side and get into NM ASAP. NM is the key if that doesn't pass pi it will be a struggle but hopefully it should pass Pi and this City gets the sports facilities it needs
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| Quote ="chissitt"If Wakey were playing in our back garden, the wife would close the curtains that's how much she likes rugby, has it ever occurred to you that quite a lot of people in Wakefield aren't interested in rugby, so why you feel the need to lambast the general public who clearly have no interest in an overpriced unsuccessful product beats me, surely the way forward is to entice the stay away's back, but there lies the problem because to do that you will have to give them something a little more than what is on offer at the moment, and to that I say good luck.'"
I don't really see it like that, our gates are comparable to 2008, when we were giving them something to watch. Go in any pub and at somepoint if you're talking about sport, Trinity will get a mention, but many of those people don't go, won't go or haven't gone in years if at all, yet they all want to talk about it.
I think we need to match the will of the new owner, in trying to make things better and that means spending a bit more or getting more people to spend in order to get a successful club, success breeds success.
I read on another post, about cas tigers, being the main thing in cas, Trinity is not the main thing in Wakefield, so maybe that's a problem that needs addressing, but that explains why out of a smaller head of population they getter proportionally a larger attendance.
That could well be a deciding factor to the RFL, it's that tight, even though potentially we could be a much bigger club.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I fully understand the sentiments and if everybody thought the same we would do fine, unfortunately everybody has different thoughts on the matter and I think for every one like you and KK what are thinking positively there will be two what won't see it your way.'"
I know, I do respects peoples opinion about all this but its OUR club so we ultimately have to back/support it, even more so in the difficult times.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I don't really see it like that, our gates are comparable to 2008, when we were giving them something to watch. Go in any pub and at somepoint if you're talking about sport, Trinity will get a mention, but many of those people don't go, won't go or haven't gone in years if at all, yet they all want to talk about it.
I think we need to match the will of the new owner, in trying to make things better and that means spending a bit more or getting more people to spend in order to get a successful club, success breeds success.
I read on another post, about cas tigers, being the main thing in cas, Trinity is not the main thing in Wakefield, so maybe that's a problem that needs addressing, but that explains why out of a smaller head of population they getter proportionally a larger attendance.
That could well be a deciding factor to the RFL, it's that tight, even though potentially we could be a much bigger club.'"
You have hit the nail right on the head POTENTIAL. We have the potential to be bigger than half the clubs in SL we have the city we have been the best in RL before trouble is we've have been playing in crap stadia and ran like a corner shop for 30 + years. The real reason other fans try to put us down is because we have the potential to be one of the biggest clubs in RL and they can't handle it. With AG and NM getting PP this will give us the tools to reach our potential
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"You have completely got it wrong what you have said. What you have put bears no resemblance one bit to what I posted.'"
No I got it completely right.
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| i dont think there is any doubt we wont be in sl from the end of the season.if the club recurit well and have one of the best teams in the league and nm is still in the pipeline then i think it will be a blessing in diguise but i dont think this will happen i believe we will become another oldham/workington.crowds will drop and who knows even nl2could come close.so i do think it could be the end of the world althoughi will be there work permitting.
regarding the franshise application i may be wrong but dont the rl say the weakest one would lose out and the keys points are ground,youth structure,comunity devlopment,club stabailty(finanically)location and previous performences.if this is the case would ag not be able to takethe rl to court as the crusarders only get us on location and ground(and thats open for debate at moment).
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