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| Quote ="BIGAL1"And thats what we'll get from him, i think he'll suprise a few people.'"
He will imo, he's not a bad player and he's the type the fans like because he's an honest hard worker aswell.
There's alot worse players out there.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He will imo, he's not a bad player and he's the type the fans like because he's an honest hard worker aswell.
There's alot worse players out there.'"
Well they'll go on about lost players on here and probably won't give him a chance but for all thats happened this season is now history, we have to deal with what we have this week and for the rest of the season.
Tomorrow is the future and we have to make the best of it and look forward, we can't alter the past.
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| Plot.... lost completely!
bring young players through... not 30+ year old players of very ordinary standing.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Cooke to 13 for me.'"
Cooke M62 east bound for me
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| Quote ="underground"Plot.... lost completely!
bring young players through... not 30+ year old players of very ordinary standing.'"
If Jeffries is injured and Latu is on compassionate leave then it makes sense to bring in cover. Davey can't be expected to do it all on his own so early in his career.
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| Quote ="underground"Plot.... lost completely!
bring young players through... not 30+ year old players of very ordinary standing.'"
lack of understanding.............shown!
You can't just throw young kids in and expect them to just be the savior of the club over night. If they were that good they'd already be playing.
Good short term fix if you ask me. If we'd signed him on a permi deal I'd agree with you but he is allowing us to move on without breaking our young potential.
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| Quote ="PopTart"lack of understanding.............shown!
If they were that good they'd already be playing.
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Surely this is a contradiction in terms, and exactly the same could be applied to Rinaldi?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Surely this is a contradiction in terms, and exactly the same could be applied to Rinaldi?'"
But that is exactly the point. Rinaldi isn't that good but the reason he isn't is down to how long he can keep playing at his age not whether he has got it or not. He has already played at top level so we know he has the skills and physical ability, just not able to play for the long term because of his age.
The kids will have a long future in front of them but that doesn't mean they are ready now.
The likes of Farrell or Schofield who played international as teenages were not there because they were just thrown in and showed they could do it, it was obvious by the way they played that they could do it. It isn't obvious yet with our guys so why break them until they do.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But that is exactly the point. Rinaldi isn't that good but the reason he isn't is down to how long he can keep playing at his age not whether he has got it or not. '"
What are you basing this on?
When was the last time you saw him play? How many games have Villeneuve won this year? Is he playing well? From the bench or starting? 6/7 or 9? I have absolutely no idea, I cannot find anything on the web that tells me if he has even made the side. The fact he 'used to be good enough' for superleague could be applied to no end of players.
All we know for sure is he is (was) contracted to a semi proffesional French club in a part time leage and couldn't make his representative side despite them being a very, very poor standard and so badly lacking in options in the position we appear to have signed him to play for us to the extent they picked a back row forward to play there infront of him.
I am struggling to see the positives in this at the moment, but hopefully he will have a stormer tomorow on 'home turf'.
Side note: does he count as oversees trained?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Side note: does he count as oversees trained?'"
I know Harlequins released him as he was classed as overseas trained only for the RFL to backtrack after the event and permit all incumbent overseas players with an EU passport dispensations.
Even if he did classify as a non-fed, Trinity still have one spot open for either a quota player or a non-fed.
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| Do we even know if he's still got a quality haircut or has he been shorn?
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| Quote ="TRB"Read my post again!
I meant he is not noted for either distribution or for good quality ball from acting half. He IS noted for elusive running, tackling massively above his weight and never giving up - and would be in the 17 every week, but he will not run the team!'"
I admit to being slightly obtuse but the point was there to be made, the 2 skills you picked out are pretty central to the role of a scrum half or a hooker.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"What are you basing this on?
When was the last time you saw him play? How many games have Villeneuve won this year? Is he playing well? From the bench or starting? 6/7 or 9? I have absolutely no idea, I cannot find anything on the web that tells me if he has even made the side. The fact he 'used to be good enough' for superleague could be applied to no end of players.
All we know for sure is he is (was) contracted to a semi proffesional French club in a part time leage and couldn't make his representative side despite them being a very, very poor standard and so badly lacking in options in the position we appear to have signed him to play for us to the extent they picked a back row forward to play there infront of him.
I am struggling to see the positives in this at the moment, but hopefully he will have a stormer tomorow on 'home turf'.
Side note: does he count as oversees trained?'"
TD, don't think that I don't see your point that the young ones should get a chance over an old overseas player. In most circumstances I would agree. Right now we need a quick fix and in my opinion, this is worth a shot, and worth more of a shot than using the young lads. I do hope they get their chance this year too.
As for Rinaldi, he is player coach at Villeneuve. He has openly said that he did not want to play for an English club in Super League as he wanted to bring his kids up in France. Villeneuve job fitted the bill for him.
The French season is now over so that's why it is hard to find detail but he is free to play and the club have allowed him to go.
....but if we are talking about quality I'm sure you'll want to comment when I say they came bottom of their league, winning 5 out of 20 games! Not great credentials.
Time will tell.
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| Quote ="PopTart"TD, don't think that I don't see your point that the young ones should get a chance over an old overseas player. In most circumstances I would agree. Right now we need a quick fix and in my opinion, this is worth a shot, and worth more of a shot than using the young lads. I do hope they get their chance this year too.
As for Rinaldi, he is player coach at Villeneuve. He has openly said that he did not want to play for an English club in Super League as he wanted to bring his kids up in France. Villeneuve job fitted the bill for him.
The French season is now over so that's why it is hard to find detail but he is free to play and the club have allowed him to go.
....but if we are talking about quality I'm sure you'll want to comment when I say they came bottom of their league, winning 5 out of 20 games! Not great credentials.
Time will tell.'"
I wasn't trying to be clever, I genuinely didnt know what they had done this year - I don't know the first thing about them or him, other than what I posted.
Lets hope he has still got some mileage in the tank and he does a job for us.
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| KYLE BRIGGS' move to Castleford or Wakefield could be scuppered by Featherstone demanding a fee for the scrum-half. Agent Craig Harrison said: "Kyle has a year on his contract and Rovers want a fee for the top scrum-half in the Championship."
From todays [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3065778/Steve-knows-a-Manu-can.htmlSUN[/url
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| Nice to be proved wrong so far reference this signing.
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| Quote ="Waketrin Wild"KYLE BRIGGS' move to Castleford or Wakefield could be scuppered by Featherstone demanding a fee for the scrum-half. Agent Craig Harrison said: "Kyle has a year on his contract and Rovers want a fee for the top scrum-half in the Championship."
From todays [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3065778/Steve-knows-a-Manu-can.htmlSUN[/url'"
he wont be coming to us then if there is a fee involved thats for sure.
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| With Salford making good signings in the form of Luke Patten, Stephen Wild and securing Holdsworth and Smith, there going to be big improvers next year.
Wakefield NEED to make some improvements to the team or an extremely tough year is on the cards.
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| Quote ="The Clan"With Salford making good signings in the form of Luke Patten, Stephen Wild and securing Holdsworth and Smith, there going to be big improvers next year.
Wakefield NEED to make some improvements to the team or an extremely tough year is on the cards.'"
Agree totally, we'll be lucky to win 5 games next year. All other sides bringing in class we signing 1 prob 2 Fev players who've never played top level. Sadly next season will be Wakey's last at SL level so will struggle to recruit anyone even half decent.
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| no more aussies, play wildie or davey and give them a chance they livein wakey andsupport the team
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"no more aussies, play wildie or davey and give them a chance they livein wakey andsupport the team'"
The problem is, if it turns out to be too early they'll be hounded out by all the negative posters on here and we would lose all that potential.
So they key word in your post is SUPPORT.
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| Quote ="trin77"Agree totally, we'll be lucky to win 5 games next year. All other sides bringing in class we signing 1 prob 2 Fev players who've never played top level.[u Sadly next season will be Wakey's last at SL level [/uso will struggle to recruit anyone even half decent.'"
and there are those on here who think JJP will be the business at SL next term!!!!!
And I've said it before, if JJP and Briggsy are the quality of player you are looking to sign, I'm inclined to agree with your comment!
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| Heard we're in talks with Luke Robinson about a move for next season.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Heard we're in talks with Luke Robinson about a move for next season.'"
I heard that too - it sounds very unlikely, but if it's true, bloody good news.
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| Seems unlikely to me too, but still nice to be linked to players like him.
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