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| Disgusting to treat season ticket holders and others like this. Some people have stood there for decades. The new cow shed was empty save for about a dozen people all game as well, and I'm sure that the concessions seller there would be none too pleased either.
Sort it out Glover/Elston and remember that fans are here for life and owners and CEOs are just transitory. I stood I front of the north stand first half and there were massive open spaces, then swapped to the flats and had no issue getting a spot, but yet we're expected to believe that the ground was within a couple if thousand of capacity - pull the other one.
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| I assume when there is trouble in these areas, the same people will be calling for Elston/Glover to fix that too?
Times have unfortunately changed. We have more and more threads on here discussing issues with away fans (and our own) albeit sporadic and not the norm.
The singing and generation of an "intimidating stadium" as many have called for, also generates the same intimidation for the supporters who just want to stand quietly and watch the game.
I hate the fact that we could be going to a segregated stadium. At one point or other over the years I have sat and or stood in every part of the ground.
I'd move to a different place if it meant the crowd was not intimidating (assuming I still had a view of the pitch)............but you can't have it both ways.
If you want loud singing that includes taunting or "banter" as some call it with opposition fans, then it's likely we'll either get trouble or segregation.
Be careful what you wish for.
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| [url=http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/important-spectator-information-for-2013/2013/02/Spectator Information[/url
Quote This positive change will also enable home supporters to congregate in the Fleetmaster North Stand and Eric France East Stand where they can cheer on the Wildcats in Super League XVIII, although home fans who have traditionally stood in the Western Terrace will not be prevented from doing so. '"
Really???
Yesterday we stood in the Fleetmaster North Stand for the 1st half and then tried to go down to the SouthWest Corner for the 2nd half, same as my friends and I have done for 20+ years. Got to the Tea bar and were told by stewards that we could not get through that way and had to walk all the way round the ground, in front of East stand and round back of hospitality. A bit annoyed but we did this anyway only to get to the SouthWest corner to be told by the stewards there that we could not get into the West stand at all and we had to go back.
If you are going to change this then at least let fans know beforehand, or even get the stewards to give people full info. No good one set telling us we could get into West stand but only if we walked all way round ground, for others to then refuse entry at the other end.
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| Think it will hurt you in the long run,been going to see Hull at your ground for years,no problems,but yesterday paid 22 pound to see 75% of the match,the worst view at a match I've had,will not be going again,treated like Cattle.
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| It was a disgrace, we were treated like hooligans, all the head moron who threw us out of the West stand could say was that it was for our own safety, we've stood there 20yrs and never caused an ounce of trouble! It's always been the case as I understand it that the North stand is exclusively for home fans and away fans in the west stand, but home fans were allowed anywhere in the ground! Not yesterday! My brother takes his four year old with him, he enjoys playing at the back of the covered stand on the western terrace, it's not the ideal place in the North stand for a hyperactive four year old.The club will be getting my mail ASAP.
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| We were stopped from going to the Cats bar down the west terrace by four stewards.
I asked why and they claimed also it was for our safety!!!
They were fine bye the way, and tried to explain as best they could that it was a new rule.
Ok it wasn't a massive bind for us to walk round the back of the east stand, but it would be nice to have been informed by the club fully in the first instance.
It's not the first time that stewards have informed us of new rules wether in the ground or queuing to get in, and much of it looks like the stewards making it up as they go on.
I'm all for a safe ground, I don't agree with the segregation and fortunately the stewards are very hit and miss about it and we have stood with decent away fans at most home games this season, but it would be nice for full qualification for what seems to be a patchy policy by the club.
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| I was allowed to walk down the west terrace to the flats at half time, I simply didn't make eye contact with the stewards and through I went.
It's worth nothing that when the sun shines on the west terrace it's from behind you so you don't have to stand shielding your eyes. An the vantage point is much better than the east too.
There was prettying zero atmosphere yesterday, sure we didn't play well but I wonder whether this stupid and pointless segregation detracts from he atmosphere.
We neither need or want this rubbish, I doubt Elston has ever really stood on the terraces for any length of time and we know Glover hasn't. In business it's good to know your customers and its clear that at the moment these two are getting it badly wrong on his issue.
Sort it.
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| Anyone got an E mail address for James Elston and Andrew Glover? Want to mail them but can't do it through the official site, seems to be down this morning.
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| I want to add my support FOR the segregation. Much less threatening atmosphere now - this from someone in the older age range whos stands on their own.
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| Again the club act without thinking things through Mr Elston stick to what your good at selling the club to people with Money you have no idea about running things on match day and this is becoming more and more evident I think your out of your depth and dont know how to treat the people who pay your wages.
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| Quote ="Horbury Cat"Again the club act without thinking things through Mr Elston stick to what your good at selling the club to people with Money you have no idea about running things on match day and this is becoming more and more evident I think your out of your depth and dont know how to treat the people who pay your wages.
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Why is this not thinking things through? Just because you don't like the answer they arrive at doesn't mean they didn't think it through, or indeed ask people what they wanted.
I agree that it doesn't seem to have been communicated well but I'm ok with the result.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why is this[u not thinking things through?[/u Just because you don't like the answer they arrive at doesn't mean they didn't think it through, or indeed ask people what they wanted.
I agree that [uit doesn't seem to have been communicated well[/u but I'm ok with the result.'"
For what its worth i have no issue with what the club are trying to achieve and support them BUT thinking things through and then not communcating smacks of not thinking it through very well. don't you agree.
You can't have it both ways.
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| Well, I have stood below the tea bar for the best part of forty years, however, with the new arrangements I just don’t enjoy it as much any more. I love to be so close to the play, screaming for a forward pass etc.
As a season ticket holder I will probably come & watch the London & Catalan games, but I refuse to have a three/four hour round trip to be told to stand in an alien position.
I will not re-new my season ticket next season, which is quite sad, but you can’t teach an old dog…
It wouldn’t be a problem in a new facility and I may have a change of heart if it ever materialises, but right now I’m not prepared to play ball.
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| I usually stand in the Western Terrace but had to stand in the North Stand and to be fair we got a decent spot and didnt mind it. Though i did walk towards the Western Terrace to see a couple of mates who stand on the corner between the West and North stands and found it bemusing the security wouldnt let a lady use the toilets cos she was a wakey fan and she had to go right round to the other end. It was common sense that she wasnt going to cause any trouble and i couldnt see the problem as the supporters were mixing at the burger place anyway. I can see this causing more conflict than doing good
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| Personally I couldn't care less where I stand as long I can see. I am more cheesed off at the players at the moment
out of 17 players yesterday you could count on one hand who were performing and who couldn't be bothered.
Get that sorted Wakey
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| Mail the club! I mailed them at 11.45am, got a phone call from Davide Longo, very shortly after, we'll done the club, after speaking to Davide, whilst I don't appreciate having to move, now I've heard the reasoning I'm happy to follow suit.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Mail the club! I mailed them at 11.45am, got a phone call from Davide Longo, very shortly after, we'll done the club, after speaking to Davide, whilst I don't appreciate having to move, now I've heard the reasoning I'm happy to follow suit.'"
What was the reasoning?
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| Quote ="violetrwb"What was the reasoning?'"
I'll pm you later
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| Well, I prefer having the North Stand for home fans only.
The only time we have had such an atmosphere in recent years is at away games, and that's not right!!
It may well need managing better though...
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| Quote ="El Rey"For what its worth i have no issue with what the club are trying to achieve and support them BUT thinking things through and then not communcating smacks of not thinking it through very well. don't you agree.
You can't have it both ways.'"
You make a good point. If they didn't communicate the change, they are killing their plan whether they thought it through or not.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Mail the club! I mailed them at 11.45am, got a phone call from Davide Longo, very shortly after, we'll done the club, after speaking to Davide, whilst I don't appreciate having to move, now I've heard the reasoning I'm happy to follow suit.'"
This suggests that it is something that's now being strictly enforced rather than a situation where "home fans who have traditionally stood in the Western Terrace will not be prevented from doing so".
I've stood on the West Terrace for all but a handful of the matches I've watched over the 25 years I've been supporting Wakefield. The East Terrace is a far worse view and I hate watching rugby from behind the sticks at just about any ground (IMO the only semi-reasonable view from behind the sticks is the upper part of the away stand at Wigan).
Aside from the drunken "antics" in the north-east corner that have blighted a few of the more recent matches against Cas, the only time I've seen anything approaching "serious" trouble was (ironically) a match against Hull in the mid-nineties. Even then it was something that finished as quickly as it had started.
If this "polite request" has become a (ridiculous) rule in the space of a few matches, I may well have watched my last match at BV. Clearly the move to Newmarket can't come soon enough.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I'll pm you later'"
Thanks.
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| This was the first real test of the new semi-segregation and it seems somewhere along the lines communication was severely lacking. A simply press release stating 'due to a high away following the West Terrace will be for Away fans only. To access the Cats bar home fans should use the East stand.'
Is that really too much to ask?
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| Quote ="JINJER"I'll pm you later'"
Perhaps Davide or someone else from the club that reads these forums would be kind enough to enlighten everyone. I'm sure if there's a good reason for it then most fans would accept it, but to go from "home fans can stand wherever they want" to this with no communication is very annoying for lots of people.
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| Talking about health and safety I would like to know why we have to put up with sound system so deafening, it got that bad I tried to see if someone could do something about it.
it was that bad it hurt my ears
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