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| Quote ="alegend"Think he ment Rocky,not quality yet but could be. Needs a coach who will work on him'"
Needs a coach who sees him as a half back first of all and so far none of them have. Is every one of them wrong?
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| Quote ="Fordy"Needs a coach who sees him as a half back first of all and so far none of them have. Is every one of them wrong?'"
That's what I keep trying to point out. Everyone keeps claiming he's a half back, yet the four (at least) who are most in a position to know, don't. I think you have to be incredibly arrogant to at least not take their opinions seriously. They clearly see something we don't, myself included. Its alright Mopsey getting hot under the collar every time this is mentioned but it's there for everyone to see, they can't all be wrong whilst all the faceless experts on here are right, I just don't buy it.
I can't see why anyone would believe tha MC and CC would cut their noses off to spite their faces, both ultimately depend on good players providing them with a future, especially Chester!
It really is time to move on, so I'll shut up now.
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| Do you think that Rocky's agent is asking to much cash for were he is at present so that the clubs have got rid faster
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| Quote ="alegend"Do you think that Rocky's agent is asking to much cash for were he is at present so that the clubs have got rid faster'"
God knows but it’s just over now, the club is always bigger than the player.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"That's what I keep trying to point out. Everyone keeps claiming he's a half back, yet the four (at least) who are most in a position to know, don't. I think you have to be incredibly arrogant to at least not take their opinions seriously. They clearly see something we don't, myself included. Its alright Mopsey getting hot under the collar every time this is mentioned but it's there for everyone to see, they can't all be wrong whilst all the faceless experts on here are right, I just don't buy it.
I can't see why anyone would believe tha MC and CC would cut their noses off to spite their faces, both ultimately depend on good players providing them with a future, especially Chester!
It really is time to move on, so I'll shut up now.
'" you cant keep shut it's in your nature as a front line coach as for being hot under the collar I'm perfectly cool old boy and posting under my own name unlike some on here. It's nice to be nice
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"you cant keep shut it's in your nature as a front line coach as for being hot under the collar I'm perfectly cool old boy and posting under my own name unlike some on here. It's nice to be nice'"
You’ve got some brass neck to accuse someone else of hiding behind a user name I’ll give you that.
So, when we signed Ryan Hampshire did he or did he not have a contract with Leigh, it’s a fair question. If I’m wrong I’ll happily apologise.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"You’ve got some brass neck to accuse someone else of hiding behind a user name I’ll give you that.
So, when we signed Ryan Hampshire did he or did he not have a contract with Leigh, it’s a fair question. If I’m wrong I’ll happily apologise.'" don't think he has hidden behind his username, I've known for some time
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| Quote ="snowie"don't think he has hidden behind his username, I've known for some time'"
I know that’s the point, why not just say it and be done with it. There is another who posts on here openly and bravely giving no doubt as to who he is and the vested interest he has, that’s how you gain support imho.
Can’t see how this poster thinks attacking other fans helps tbh.
How many times do most fans myself included have to say we rated Hampshire and wish we’d kept him? What exactly does he expect us to do? And why does he think having a go at anyone who doesn’t follow his script that Hampshire is above any criticism to the, helps?
He sure knows how to alienate folk.
One more go, I wish we’d been able to keep him, I think we will miss him a lot and imo this may have been an error. That said the club must of had its reasons the main one being fairly obvious. Also Im yet to see anything that marks Hampshire down as a great HB and apparently neither have four coaches, sorry but it’s all just opinion.
If it’s any consolation I don’t rate the Wigan lad who’s going to Canberra all that much either, so luck of the draw I suppose.
Best of luck to Ryan but that’s it for me on this one as it’s getting boring and a bit nasty.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I know that’s the point, why not just say it and be done with it. There is another who posts on here openly and bravely giving no doubt as to who he is and the vested interest he has, that’s how you gain support imho.
Can’t see how this poster thinks attacking other fans helps tbh.
How many times do most fans myself included have to say we rated Hampshire and wish we’d kept him? What exactly does he expect us to do? And why does he think having a go at anyone who doesn’t follow his script that Hampshire is above any criticism to the, helps?
He sure knows how to alienate folk.
One more go, I wish we’d been able to keep him, I think we will miss him a lot and imo this may have been an error. That said the club must of had its reasons the main one being fairly obvious. Also Im yet to see anything that marks Hampshire down as a great HB and apparently neither have four coaches, sorry but it’s all just opinion.
If it’s any consolation I don’t rate the Wigan lad who’s going to Canberra all that much either, so luck of the draw I suppose.
Best of luck to Ryan but that’s it for me on this one as it’s getting boring and a bit nasty.'"
Let me answer that.
It is against AUP to reveal who you are or to encourage someone else to do the same.
As you have form on this I suggest you leave it alone.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Let me answer that.
It is against AUP to reveal who you are or to encourage someone else to do the same.
As you have form on this I suggest you leave it alone.'"
PT I'm not encouraging him and you know that he gives himself away without any help from me.
Anyway, I thought I had ended it, see the last sentence of my post
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"PT I'm not encouraging him and you know that he gives himself away without any help from me.
Anyway, I thought I had ended it, see the last sentence of my post
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I know that’s the point, why not just say it and be done with it. There is another who posts on here openly and bravely giving no doubt as to who he is and the vested interest he has, that’s how you gain support imho.
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That in my opinion is asking/encouraging him to reveal who he is.
It's not a discussion. Just don't do it.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Can’t see how this poster thinks attacking other fans helps tbh.
He sure knows how to alienate folk.
but that’s it for me on this one as it’s getting boring and a bit nasty.'"
Not sure which of these 3 sentences amuses me the most
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| Quote ="PopTart"Let me answer that.
It is against AUP to reveal who you are or to encourage someone else to do the same.
As you have form on this I suggest you leave it alone.'" he actually threatened to oust me last night but edited the post before I could reply.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"he actually threatened to oust me last night but edited the post before I could reply.'"
Grow up man, no I didn’t. As I say I don’t need to, you give yourself away.
Like the way you’ve got you stooge little Wayne posting in support, you must be desperate
Try reading my posts in support of Ryan and stop making a fool of yourself.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I know that’s the point, why not just say it and be done with it. There is another who posts on here openly and bravely giving no doubt as to who he is and the vested interest he has, that’s how you gain support imho.
Can’t see how this poster thinks attacking other fans helps tbh.
How many times do most fans myself included have to say we rated Hampshire and wish we’d kept him? What exactly does he expect us to do? And why does he think having a go at anyone who doesn’t follow his script that Hampshire is above any criticism to the, helps?
He sure knows how to alienate folk.
One more go, I wish we’d been able to keep him, I think we will miss him a lot and imo this may have been an error. That said the club must of had its reasons the main one being fairly obvious. Also Im yet to see anything that marks Hampshire down as a great HB and apparently neither have four coaches, sorry but it’s all just opinion.
If it’s any consolation I don’t rate the Wigan lad who’s going to Canberra all that much either, so luck of the draw I suppose.
Best of luck to Ryan but that’s it for me on this one as it’s getting boring and a bit nasty.'"
There’s only one person nasty on here and that is you it’s been a relentless stream of giving people it over the years, no one can have an opinion and if they have their shouted down.
You threatened to oust me last night but quickly edited the post and removed it well crack on with it I don’t care il even phone dick dasterdly and get him a mutely medal for you. The CEO knows who I am the chairman knows the coach knows, the previous owners knew the ones before did as did jk his wife and daughter also VASTY knew as well as I’ve met him on several occasions. if anyone wants to know please feel to pm me il gladly tell you as 90 percent on here already know. Who am I attacking or alienating you bu the look of things don’t know why I only said on my post other day your posts were so similar to vastmans.
As for Ryan leaving Leigh which seems to be bothering you il explain just to put your mind at rest.
Ryan was under contract at Leigh he had another year left but when the team were relegated the super league contracts became null, when Kieron Cunningham came in Ryan was offered another deal to stay at Leigh which was higher than the super league one but was never going to stop at Leigh as all the players had been extremely let down by the chairman not even paying some of them. This is why he couldn’t talk to anyone until his contact become null, Wakefield agreed a contract and he signed for them, quite what your getting at ive no idea but if it makes you feel happy. If there is something in this you don’t quite understand or wish to know anything else please feel free to ask. It’s nice to be nice
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Grow up man, no I didn’t. As I say I don’t need to, you give yourself away.
Like the way you’ve got you stooge little Wayne posting in support, you must be desperate
Try reading my posts in support of Ryan and stop making a fool of yourself.'"
I don't need any stooges thanks if you remember I fought a battle on here alone against a previous regime getting hardly any support and having to take it all of most on here, how did that work out in the end.
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| Ok I've had enough. You can both take a little rest.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Leave that for the comedians on here DC
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| Worried is too strong a word for it but could become appropriate at a later date.
My concern for next year revolves around the attacking shape and structure we’ll employ. With the signing of Walker & Green (both good signings) and the loss of Hampshire we seem to be setting up for the same again which I think could be a mistake.
Teams and individuals have grown accustomed to defending double and triple shift plays. If we continue with that as our number one attacking ploy I think we’ll look increasingly impotent in attack.
Progressive Coaches have already started moving their teams away from that shape as their main attacking structure. It won’t completely disappear as teams will still play on the defenders instincts to over read that play.
Sts, Salford, London, Leeds & Warrington are early movers away from relying on shift plays and apart from being relatively successful for each it’s also more attractive and less prescribed.
My other concern as always is our inability to offer a cohesive defensive structure.
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| Double and triple play would work better if we could pass the ball straight to the next player. Most times in arks 10 + in the air . Last year we seemed to be the slowest passes of the ball .Think a expert should be brought in to show the players how to move on to a ball at speed, and pass the ball straight quickly .Most SL teams who are good at this seem to stand further back than the 10 yards
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| Quote ="alegend"Double and triple play would work better if we could pass the ball straight to the next player. Most times in arks 10 + in the air . Last year we seemed to be the slowest passes of the ball .Think a expert should be brought in to show the players how to move on to a ball at speed, and pass the ball straight quickly .Most SL teams who are good at this seem to stand further back than the 10 yards'"
Get the Japanese RU coach to give us a few lessons on how to pass the ball as well as keeping it alive .
Gotta be the nearest I’ve seen a union side play like league
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| I tend to agree with what you both say, especially the passing accuracy Alegend but from what I saw yesterday Salford used the same fullback play we do, just with more speed and accuracy.
What is the alternative option you mean?
I do think we need to work the right more as well.
Possibly a thing we missed after Grix as he could pass accurately both ways. I don't know how good Walker is at that.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I tend to agree with what you both say, especially the passing accuracy Alegend but from what I saw yesterday Salford used the same fullback play we do, just with more speed and accuracy.
What is the alternative option you mean?
I do think we need to work the right more as well.
Possibly a thing we missed after Grix as he could pass accurately both ways. I don't know how good Walker is at that.'"
I think it’s the same with most sides in SL, hopefully that changes with Walker coming in.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I tend to agree with what you both say, especially the passing accuracy Alegend but from what I saw yesterday Salford used the same fullback play we do, just with more speed and accuracy.
What is the alternative option you mean?
I do think we need to work the right more as well.
Possibly a thing we missed after Grix as he could pass accurately both ways. I don't know how good Walker is at that.'"
Not the Grix I watched and got Trinity tv to back it up, his distribution was dreadful quite a few times .
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