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| Quote ="Chris B"It might be in order to encourage Mr Glover to come to the table again or it could be to encourage interest from other parties. Who knows
At the moment Mr Glover seems to be the only party in the running and could be using this position to agree terms favourable to him. (and who could blame him) It's all conjecture.
I am 100% confident that a team, as well supported as Trin is, will exist beyond this episode! Liquidation will not happen. There will eventually be a price that someone is prepared to pay for the club. Of that you can be sure.'"
Will take your word for it and hope your right.
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| If I was a Wakie fan right now I would be very, very peeved off. Crusaders and Harlequins didn't have to let their best players go, so why should you? Hope you get it sorted out sooner rather than later because we need to keep the Cas Vs Wakie derbies!
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| Quote ="wildcat13"Will take your word for it and hope your right.'"
Worst comes to the worst Supporters Trust will take over when fully set up! (Widnes had one doing the same) RFL will help see you through the season and then start again in lower leagues from scratch.
As I say though that's WORST!
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At least that is a small crumb of comfort.
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At least that is a small crumb of comfort.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"The RFL did no such thing.
And, ahead of Wednesday's deadline, a Wakefield club statement read: "We have not been able to secure the funds necessary to pay the amounts due to HMRC.
"We have no choice but to seek the appointment of an administrator."'"
Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'"
O'Hara's are effectively Wakefield Trinity Wildcats!
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
'" More to the point where does it state that they DID?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"bit of an over exaggeration there mate i think, the only "volunteer" i can ever remember getting any kind of agro on here was TRB, and that was for being too far up Teds ar$e he could neither see or breathe properly, not his selfless voluntary work.
I also agree with the rest.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'" O.hara's are in effect WTW ATM so it stands to reason they would take/need instructions from the RFL about the ongoing future of WTW seeing as they are running a RL club.
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Is this the news that ag was maybe waiting for?
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Is this the news that ag was maybe waiting for?
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'"
I suggest you read up about the Administration process.
The Administrator is appointed by the company (i.e. by the directors or by the shareholders) or by the holder of a floating charge. Or by the Court on petition by a creditor.
He is an officer of the court and an agent of the company, and is obliged to act in the best interests of all the creditors while he attempts to secure a sale as a going concern. If the latter is not possible, then he has to secure the best return he can for the creditors.
Suggest you get some basic facts before you come on here and lecture these guys?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I suggest you read up about the Administration process.
The Administrator is appointed by the company (i.e. by the directors or by the shareholders) or by the holder of a floating charge. Or by the Court on petition by a creditor.
He is an officer of the court and an agent of the company, and is obliged to act in the best interests of all the creditors while he attempts to secure a sale as a going concern. If the latter is not possible, then he has to secure the best return he can for the creditors.
Suggest you get some basic facts before you come on here and lecture these guys?'" Thankyou Adeybull.
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| O Hara's are obviously the RFL's golden boys when it comes to admin. They claim to have rescued Keighley Cougars,Halifax Blue Sox, Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, Featherstone Rovers, Doncaster Dragons, Rochdale, Crusaders during the past decade. The Crusaders of course if you check their forum slipped through hardly noticed due to a lack of anyone giving a .......and the RFL making sure things were all nice and tidy. The rest speak for them selves they were not dealing with a SL set up on any of them.
O Hara has now gone back to the RFL for Plan B only to find out that he miss heard Big Nige during his morning Tea and Cake session. They were in fact discussing Big Nige's sweepstake pick in last night's Brit's !!
But joking apart O'Hara is quoted that they are covered for costs for 28 days by the RFL. Then why on DAY ONE does he start offloading players and spouting guff about needing money for wages etc when he only has to look at the fixture list to see that revenues from home fixtures will be available shortly to him and well within the 28 day time frame.
This was their game plan from the outset.They had a week to concoct it. They can't run a business they are proving it, they are recovering their costs as quickly as possible first and foremost.
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| Quote ="The Trip"O Hara's are obviously the RFL's golden boys when it comes to admin. They claim to have rescued Keighley Cougars,Halifax Blue Sox, Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, Featherstone Rovers, Doncaster Dragons, Rochdale, Crusaders during the past decade. The Crusaders of course if you check their forum slipped through hardly noticed due to a lack of anyone giving a .......and the RFL making sure things were all nice and tidy. The rest speak for them selves they were not dealing with a SL set up on any of them.
O Hara has now gone back to the RFL for Plan B only to find out that he miss heard Big Nige during his morning Tea and Cake session. They were in fact discussing Big Nige's sweepstake pick in last night's Brit's !!
But joking apart O'Hara is quoted that they are covered for costs for 28 days by the RFL. Then why on DAY ONE does he start offloading players and spouting guff about needing money for wages etc when he only has to look at the fixture list to see that revenues from home fixtures will be available shortly to him and well within the 28 day time frame.
This was their game plan from the outset.They had a week to concoct it. They can't run a business they are proving it, they are recovering their costs as quickly as possible first and foremost.'"
You do not have the first idea what you are talking about.
O'Hara & co have the assignment because they have specialised in this field.
They do NOT work for the RFL nor are they appointed by the RFL. They have to WORK with the RFL because they are now managing the club. They HAVE to act in the interests of all the creditors or they risk being sued - and HMRC have the clout to do that. And they HAVE to pursue a going concern sale as the priority because that is the law.
Everything I saw in the O'Hara statement made total sense to me - and indeed contained what I suspect were a number of inconvenient truths.
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| TBF I think clubs are 'advised' by the RFL to use O'Hara's (not neccesairily a bad thing as keeps it simple). But for a club based in North Wales to use them isn't exactly standard procedure.
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| Quote ="J20"TBF I think clubs are 'advised' by the RFL to use O'Hara's (not neccesairily a bad thing as keeps it simple). But for a club based in North Wales to use them isn't exactly standard procedure.'"
They are - suits all parties as it keeps the costs and learning curves down, and also precisely because O'Hara's DO know how to run a RL club. At least, a damn sight better than an accounting firm with no prior experience of RL clubs.
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| Maybe your right Adeybull but why then did OHara say "The RFL have said they would fund me for a minimum of 28 days if a purchaser is not found,” he said.
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| The RFL have basically stated that they will support the admistrators and therefore the club for a minimuim of 28 days to esnure that the staff and players are not out of a lively hood should finding a buyer take longer that a few days (as in the case of Crusaders).
If they dont support the club for 28 days then logic would suggest that all the players and staff will jump ship. I think i would do if i were threatened with redundancy.
The RFL is ensuring that funds are available to pay staff and players salaries so that who ever buys the club actually has a club to buy. In essence its a loan to the club to stop it totally falling apart and actually having some staff to run the company.
I assume this is probably to stop the administartor having to sell more assets (players) to pay wages.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Maybe your right Adeybull but why then did OHara say "The RFL have said they would fund me for a minimum of 28 days if a purchaser is not found,” he said.'"
Without that RFL cash flow all staff & players would become free agents and could go wherever they wished for nothing! (see Widnes 2007).
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| Should'nt it read a maximum of 28 days?
A minimum of 28 days mean they could fund us for 2-4 months, 6-8 years, ad infinitum
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| Quote ="J20"Without that RFL cash flow all staff & players would become free agents and could go wherever they wished for nothing! (see Widnes 2007).'"
I refer Addeybull to this quote. Do you still believe that O'Hara's did not take their lead from the RFL.
You can speak theory but I suggest you live in the real world from someone that has business experience.
Mind you the financial your club's been in you must be an Oracle!
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