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| Quote ="trin77".
Other than the Murphy call the most outrageous incident in the game. A two handed shove off the ball a yard from the touch judge. Pure pantomime, an insult to the fans and proof that unless you're top four it all depends which idiot is in the middle whether you have a chance or not. Disgraceful and they wonder why the game is struggling.'"
Yes I saw the same. Gaskell was standing still and he just got shoved off the ball and it should have been a straight up penalty maybe even 10 as the ball was way up in the air still. Linesman was close as you say and completely ignored it. Gaskell had a right go at the touch judge too after in what can only be described as disgust. We had to defend 2 sets after that….
To compound it the ref then piggy backed them up field after the crowd got on his back for the officials mistake.
I’d have to think twice about paying my hard earned if Grant is officiating again. There’s making mistakes and beyond that and for me you just can’t defend some of the incidents.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Two matches for Chan for a dangerous throw. Should have been a straight red for a dangerous tackle.'"
Korbin Sims (Hull KR) – Grade B Other Contrary Behaviour – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Frankie Halton (Hull KR) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 0 Match Penalty Notice
Will Pryce (Huddersfield) – Grade B Trip – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Jordan Lane (Hull FC) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 0 Match Penalty Notice
Liam Watts (Castleford) – Grade B Dangerous Contact – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Curtis Sironen (St Helens) – Grade B High Tackle – 2 Match Penalty Notice
David Fusitua (Leeds) – Grade C High Tackle – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Aidan Sezer (Leeds) – Grade C Trip – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Rhyse Martin (Leeds) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 1 Match Penalty Notice
Tiaki Chan (Catalans) – Grade C Dangerous Throw – 2 Match Penalty Notice
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| Live, referees often appear biased. On TV, they are often proved to be right most of the time.
I do think there is some reluctance to ping the bigger teams though, perhaps from an assumption that they know what they are doing, and sometimes it is hard to fathom what they are thinking. I remember the Marshall try against Wigan a couple of years, in a game we had to win to ensure we didn't go to the wire, and Marshall actually ran away from the mark on the 20m line so that he could tap and run straight into a gap. That's the kind of thing that infuriates me, that makes me wonder what they were thinking.
On the other hand, for most decisions they are closer than we are, and most often in TV games they are shown to be right.
I wish they'd grow some nads sometimes though, with the bigger clubs. In the NRL, Nathan Cleary copped a sending off and a five-match ban for a dangerous throw. Here, had it been a star player, they'd have bottled it.
As for the current state of refs and spoiling the games, we've complained of bias and cheating and incompetence for as long as I can remember. One ref was even chased from the field. I'm not convinced it's a new problem.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Live, referees often appear biased. On TV, they are often proved to be right most of the time.
I do think there is some reluctance to ping the bigger teams though, perhaps from an assumption that they know what they are doing, and sometimes it is hard to fathom what they are thinking. I remember the Marshall try against Wigan a couple of years, in a game we had to win to ensure we didn't go to the wire, and Marshall actually ran away from the mark on the 20m line so that he could tap and run straight into a gap. That's the kind of thing that infuriates me, that makes me wonder what they were thinking.
On the other hand, for most decisions they are closer than we are, and most often in TV games they are shown to be right.
I wish they'd grow some nads sometimes though, with the bigger clubs. In the NRL, Nathan Cleary copped a sending off and a five-match ban for a dangerous throw. Here, had it been a star player, they'd have bottled it.
As for the current state of refs and spoiling the games, we've complained of bias and cheating and incompetence for as long as I can remember. One ref was even chased from the field. I'm not convinced it's a new problem.'"
Agree wih you, although I would say that the refs are now [isupposed[/i to be professional [ias well as[/i full time.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Live, referees often appear biased. On TV, they are often proved to be right most of the time.
I do think there is some reluctance to ping the bigger teams though, perhaps from an assumption that they know what they are doing, and sometimes it is hard to fathom what they are thinking. I remember the Marshall try against Wigan a couple of years, in a game we had to win to ensure we didn't go to the wire, and Marshall actually ran away from the mark on the 20m line so that he could tap and run straight into a gap. That's the kind of thing that infuriates me, that makes me wonder what they were thinking.
=#FF0000=#80FF00=#FF0000On the other hand, for most decisions they are closer than we are, and most often in TV games they are shown to be right.
I wish they'd grow some nads sometimes though, with the bigger clubs. In the NRL, Nathan Cleary copped a sending off and a five-match ban for a dangerous throw. Here, had it been a star player, they'd have bottled it.
As for the current state of refs and spoiling the games, we've complained of bias and cheating and incompetence for as long as I can remember. One ref was even chased from the field. I'm not convinced it's a new problem.'"
The touch judge was a =#FF0000lot nearer than us when he "didn't see" Gaskell blatently being pushed off the ball.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Korbin Sims (Hull KR) – Grade B Other Contrary Behaviour – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Frankie Halton (Hull KR) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 0 Match Penalty Notice
Will Pryce (Huddersfield) – Grade B Trip – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Jordan Lane (Hull FC) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 0 Match Penalty Notice
Liam Watts (Castleford) – Grade B Dangerous Contact – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Curtis Sironen (St Helens) – Grade B High Tackle – 2 Match Penalty Notice
David Fusitua (Leeds) – Grade C High Tackle – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Aidan Sezer (Leeds) – Grade C Trip – 2 Match Penalty Notice
Rhyse Martin (Leeds) – Grade A Dangerous Contact – 1 Match Penalty Notice
Tiaki Chan (Catalans) – Grade C Dangerous Throw – 2 Match Penalty Notice'"
I'm told that Salford fans are up in arms over Thaler's performance yesterday...as can be seen above, Leeds have picked up 3 suspensions after yesterday's game but apparently not one of the offences was penalised during the game and Sezer's trip on the Salford player was given as a knock-on ????
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| Do we still have a 4th official or has cut backs taken it’s toll on someone who could help when things are going blatantly wrong
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"Do we still have a 4th official or has cut backs taken it’s toll on someone who could help when things are going blatantly wrong'"
Yes we still have them. The Four Horsemen of the Incompetence.
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| I see the little so and so is looking after his Catalan mates again at Cas.
Then we have the pleasure of him running the touch against Wigan
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I see the little so and so is looking after his Catalan mates again at Cas.
Then we have the pleasure of him running the touch against Wigan'"
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Wakefield Trinity v Wigan Warriors
14th August, KO: 15:00
M Com: P. Crashley
Referee: M. Griffiths
Reserve Referee: J. Wood
Touch Judge 1: T. Grant
Touch Judge 2: J. Roberts
In Goal: P. Brooke
In Goal 2: G. Jones
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Wakefield Trinity v Wigan Warriors
14th August, KO: 15:00
M Com: P. Crashley
Referee: M. Griffiths
Reserve Referee: J. Wood
Touch Judge 1: T. Grant
Touch Judge 2: J. Roberts
In Goal: P. Brooke
In Goal 2: G. Jones
Time Keeper: P. Taberner'"
Oh great - Grant on the touchline …. might give this one a miss
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Oh great - Grant on the touchline ….[u might give this one a miss [/u
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Had eye surgery 3 week ago which is still causing me a bit of a problem, officially that's my excuse for not going, but I'm with you on this for the same reason.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Oh great - Grant on the touchline …. might give this one a miss
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He truly is like a turd that won’t flush.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Had eye surgery 3 week ago which is still causing me a bit of a problem, officially that's my excuse for not going, but I'm with you on this for the same reason.'"
Could you please pass on the name of your surgeon to Tom Grant. Thanks.
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| I wonder who thought I know let’s make him the touch judge standing a few feet away from the Wakefield supporters.
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| Won’t he have just the Wigan fans behind him if he’s down the western side.? Wonder if that will influence him?
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| Quote ="WRENNYAL"Won’t he have just the Wigan fans behind him if he’s down the western side.? Wonder if that will influence him?'"
Well it made no difference with a couple of thousand trinity fans getting on his back when he completely missed Gaskell being taken out off the ball. It had the opposite effect as he then penalised us with no clear offences committed which appeared rather cynical.
I fully expect him to beckon to the Wigan crowd though being a top team.
It speaks volume when fans are more concerned with what the touch judge will give or have influence on rather than the actual ref or the players.
The enjoyment was sucked out of me last week with the inept officiating that I’m actually contemplating if it’s worth going Sunday (though I will).
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Well it made no difference with a couple of thousand trinity fans getting on his back when he completely missed Gaskell being taken out off the ball. It had the opposite effect as he then penalised us with no clear offences committed which appeared rather cynical.
I fully expect him to beckon to the Wigan crowd though being a top team.
It speaks volume when fans are more concerned with what the touch judge will give or have influence on rather than the actual ref or the players.
I blame Smith as well for that he was totally oblivious to what had happened, and just stood there with flag in hand totally unmoved
The enjoyment was sucked out of me last week with the inept officiating that I’m actually contemplating if it’s worth going Sunday (though I will).'"
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Could you please pass on the name of your surgeon to Tom Grant. Thanks.'"
He'd get it done half price as he only has one eye
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| Am I dreaming or was there a period in recent years when clubs could raise objections against certain officials and veto them from officiating at their games? If there wasn't then there should be.
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| I was talking to someone from the club earlier on in the season about the hkr match away.When willie watched the tape,think wakey had 3 knocked off forward passes & kr had 2 allowed from forward passes.He asked ganson to watch the tape who admitted all 5 decisions were wrong,are tries ok hkr tries forward when asked what would happen said ref would be dropped following week. when willie asked if that was it, his reply was, if one of your players had a shocker you would drop him the following week. so yes they do ask about decisions but this might explain everyones frustrations
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER62"I was talking to someone from the club earlier on in the season about the hkr match away.When willie watched the tape,think wakey had 3 knocked off forward passes & kr had 2 allowed from forward passes.He asked ganson to watch the tape who admitted all 5 decisions were wrong,are tries ok hkr tries forward when asked what would happen said ref would be dropped following week. when willie asked if that was it, his reply was, if one of your players had a shocker you would drop him the following week. so yes they do ask about decisions but this might explain everyones frustrations'"
That is likely all they can do but that’s because there’s not enough depth in officials or investment in the infrastructure/training they fall into. I’ve said it before but you get what you pay for and for a professional sport I would dread to think the level of investment we have in the officials and the process behind them. You would think there would be some plans to create a better functioning system.
Just another thing for IMG to sort out and restructure I guess. At least the reigns have been handed to an organisation that probably has a clue how to plan and actually put things in motion.
On another side note, I do hope we keep challenging the officiating and document it after every game for reference. It would certainly build up an accurate picture of whether the fault lies with the officiating or the players discipline on the whole.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Could you please pass on the name of your surgeon to Tom Grant. Thanks.'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"Had eye surgery 3 week ago which is still causing me a bit of a problem, officially that's my excuse for not going, but I'm with you on this for the same reason.'" I had a op about a year ago on a cataract and it took a good 3 months causing some dryness, used the drops they gave me for infection but later used a dry eye spray that helped endlessly
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| Quote ="snowie"I had a op about a year ago on a cataract and it took a good 3 months causing some dryness, used the drops they gave me for infection but later used a dry eye spray that helped endlessly
look after your self pal'"
Had Laser surgery on both and it was successful, unfortunately after a week I got an infection in the right eye, shouldn't have been a problem I say shouldn't but they gave me the wrong medication which meant I'd to start all over again, the good thing is that by turning the sound off and the picture being blurred I don't get to watch baz and tez and that other dick from Cas
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