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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't think brining pride flags, which are just rainbow colour, quite constitutes a protest that will stop you enjoying the game.
But all those things have already been brought to the game with Falou being so vocal.
It's worth reminding everyone that Pride is simply about celebrating diversity and allowing all people of all types to live their life free from hate.
Something the rugby league is trying to promote.'"
MC as usual, seems bang on the money with his reply. Why indeed, should SL be so damn keen to take every Aussie bad boy.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"I presume when we refer to his abhorrent views we are referring to those against adulterers et al - oh no their ok ! Not worth mentioning , but like terry Christian tweeting that all northern oap should die from flu - we have a strange society where it’s quite ok to lambast one section of society threaten them with murder - yet speak out against another and it’s the sack and universal approbation. Time we had one law for all and similar penalties for all groups'"
What a ridiculous post.... Because committing adultery is the same as being homosexual isn't it? I found out recently that someone I was close to had been having an affair and I genuinely lost a lot of respect for him... Funnily enough, I have never lost any respect for anyone because of their sexuality.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"I presume when we refer to his abhorrent views we are referring to those against adulterers et al - oh no their ok ! Not worth mentioning , but like terry Christian tweeting that all northern oap should die from flu - we have a strange society where it’s quite ok to lambast one section of society threaten them with murder - yet speak out against another and it’s the sack and universal approbation. Time we had one law for all and similar penalties for all groups'"
Has Terry Christian signed for Catalans Dragons?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"What a ridiculous post.... Because committing adultery is the same as being homosexual isn't it? I found out recently that someone I was close to had been having an affair and I genuinely lost a lot of respect for him... Funnily enough, I have never lost any respect for anyone because of their sexuality.'" on the eyes of folau yes read what he actually said
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| Quote ="bren2k"Has Terry Christian signed for Catalans Dragons?'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't think brining pride flags, which are just rainbow colour, quite constitutes a protest that will stop you enjoying the game.
But all those things have already been brought to the game with Falou being so vocal.
It's worth reminding everyone that Pride is simply about celebrating diversity and allowing all people of all types to live their life free from hate.
Something the rugby league is trying to promote.'"
I believe flags of any colours, had been banned at rugby stadiums, due to obstructing the view of spectators, and possible use las a weapon. Do you think an exception should be made for Pride flags. Keep all flags outside the stadium.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I and most other fans want to watch the game not some silly easily offended group, who think it’s only their opinion that counts.'"
Are you suggesting the LGBT community are silly and easily offended; or do you think there has for countless years, and continues to be, people who are persecuted, discriminated against, attacked and in some cases killed - for no reason other than their sexuality? I'd say the latter, so any show of support by the wider community can only be a positive thing, right?
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| Some of the opinions ‘spouted ‘ on here are almost as intolerant as the ones being condemned (rightly so).
There is no need though to launch all out attack on religion of whatever faith.
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| I blame Facebook and Twitter and all that crap for a lot of the ills in the modern world.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I believe flags of any colours, had been banned at rugby stadiums, due to obstructing the view of spectators, and possible use las a weapon. Do you think an exception should be made for Pride flags. Keep all flags outside the stadium.'"
Actually that's a fair point though I think we can find a way of showing the pride colours without big flags.
I'll be wearing rainbow colours
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| Quote ="PopTart"Actually that's a fair point though I think we can find a way of showing the pride colours without big plags.
I'll be wearing rainbow colours'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"Actually that's a fair point though I think we can find a way of showing the pride colours without big plags.
I'll be wearing rainbow colours'"
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| Quote ="thebeagle"Some of the opinions ‘spouted ‘ on here are almost as intolerant as the ones being condemned (rightly so).
There is no need though to launch all out attack on religion of whatever faith.'"
Unless they come knocking on my door preaching their religion to my face then they are fair game
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"And me
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Yes, and where you wear them, only your good lady will see them.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Yes, and where you wear them, only your good lady will see them.
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and that’s with a two week notice only colours I’ll be wearing are red white and blue.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"icon_lol.gif and that’s with a two week notice
only colours I’ll be wearing are red white and blue.'"
You got two of the colours there so I reckon that counts.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Nice one Zippy.
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I'm not cool enough for Zippy.
I'm probably Rod or Freddie.
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| Anyone condoning the signing of IF are either ignorant, bigoted, or both.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You got two of the colours there so I reckon that counts.'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Given the C of E's record on sheltering and covering up for child rapists, they have zero moral authority on this or any other issue; they have for decades been a safe haven for paedophiles and abusers of many different stripes - although interestingly, I've never seen little Stephen Yaxley Lennon and his knuckle-dragging fans picketing them, or calling for all C of E members to be hounded out of the country. I wonder what point of difference they've identified between the C of E, and the Pakistani grooming gangs? That aside - for me, the C of E, and every other organised religion, should have no place in the public sphere - they represent an increasingly small number of people, have hideous historical crimes and misdemeanours on their records, and preach on the basis of magical nonsense, usually 'revealed' to an illiterate savage in a desert somewhere, in the dark ages.
In broader terms and in respect of his employment - it is of course the right of any individual to hold certain views and within legal limits, express them; it is also the right of an employer to have certain values around inclusivity and diversity, and expect their employees to abide by them - when they don't, that employee can legitimately be denied a role, or removed from one they already have. In RL, I would expect the RFL and SL to have clear policies, for clubs to mirror them, and use them to ensure that players and ambassadors of the sport are operating within those policy parameters, regardless of their personal beliefs. Folau has demonstrably failed to do that, but has been given a job at Catalans anyway - which suggests that they don't have a policy, don't abide by the policy of the governing body, and/or only use the policy for people who aren't any good; and it certainly demonstrates that they don't give a damn about their LGBT players, staff, supporters and sponsors - all of which is reprehensible.
I hope his abhorrent views make his time in SL intolerable, and he is sent home with his tail between his legs; if he wants to wang on about gays and adulterers, let him do so to his congregation of fellow slaves, who have abrogated their freedom of thought to an ancient book, made up by people with the express intent of controlling the population.'"
By definition members of Pakistani grooming gangs as you describe them, are predatory paedophiles whereas I don't think that's quite the same for the Church of England.
Does that qualify as a point of difference? Or were you only asking knuckle draggers?
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LOL. What a typically pompous diatribe. 1st time I've ever come across someone almost belittling the effect the actions of the Pakistani grooming communities have on young extremely vulnerable girls.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"LOL. What a typically pompous diatribe. 1st time I've ever come across someone almost belittling the effect the actions of the Pakistani grooming communities have on young extremely vulnerable girls.
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If you read through his post again, I dont think that is what he said, not at all ?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"LOL. What a typically pompous diatribe. 1st time I've ever come across someone almost belittling the effect the actions of the Pakistani grooming communities have on young extremely vulnerable girls.
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Congratulations on a flawless and total misunderstanding of absolutely everything I said - that's quite impressive, in a really unimpressive kind of way.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Congratulations on a flawless and total misunderstanding of absolutely everything I said - that's quite impressive, in a really unimpressive kind of way.'"
Maybe but the comparison you made was absurd. I think you'll find there are some people involved in the Church of England who aren't raping underage girls.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Maybe but the comparison you made was absurd. I think you'll find there are some people involved in the Church of England who aren't raping underage girls.'"
Yes, just as there are millions of Pakistani men who aren't grooming young girls.
Bren appeared to be asking where the mob were, trying to deal with the Christian paedophiles etc. He certainly wasn't defending the stuff going on with the grooming gangs.
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