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| I wonder how Colin Mackie felt as he exited the room, I'd wonder how the conversation in his car went as they drove back to the office.
I suspect it was the polar opposite to that which the Trust representatives felt and said!
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Don't understand why anyone continues to contribute positive or even neutral info or speculation to these threads? The topic is just Troll fodder and is so predictable it's hard to believe that supposedely intelligent people with the best intent and interest of the club continue to open the door.
Why not lock this and start one sometime in the future headed "1st brick being laid" or "Wildcats begin Belle Vue Upgrade".'"
Totally agree.
Let TRB, IA, Sandalcat and any others involved be applauded and encouraged to continue with their efforts in the hope of (what I personally hope will be an updated Belle Vue -sorry but it's been in my blood for so long) BUT continue in the background.
In the meantime a new season beckons and I am more concerned with what goes on in the green bit in the middle of whatever stadium!
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| Phil, Ian, Jonathan the majority of true fans know what you are doing for all of us and our club and city Don't let the idiots who claim to be supporters get to you ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yes it's one of those questions that I've looked up before and get different answers because of the difference between the urban population figure of 77k (2001) and the District of 326k (2011). If we just count the City District, no one comes close like you say, especially unlike other Cities/Towns not only we don't have a Pro team, we don't even have a lower Division side now.
There's places like Lincoln who have a team but in the fifth tier of English football who have pop of 96k apparently. I've also heard people say Gateshead which is a Town of around 78k and also have a team in fifth tier and Poole which is probably the biggest Town that doesn't have a Pro Football team only a seventh tier semi Pro side, that Borough has a pop of 155k.'"
Fair point.
In some ways I'm glad as it gives an opportunity to Trinity to catch the Wakefield public attention but equally Leeds United is a pull as it's not exactly far away.
In reality much as no one would like to say it. If Leeds had developed like Manchester did or as early as Manchester did, we would be regarded like Salford and be part of the Greater Leeds area, rather than have our own identity. It's good that we do, but it also hides some difficulties that will be very difficult for a marketing/branding team to break down.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Don't understand why anyone continues to contribute positive or even neutral info or speculation to these threads? The topic is just Troll fodder and is so predictable it's hard to believe that supposedely intelligent people with the best intent and interest of the club continue to open the door.
Why not lock this and start one sometime in the future headed "1st brick being laid" or "Wildcats begin Belle Vue Upgrade".'"
Because we'd be criticised even more!
We tell you all as much as we can. 90% of any development is in the bit before a brick is laid or a hole dug, we are no different, but there are a lot more people interested in this subject than the few who post, including many who read these pages.
What you suggest is idealistic, and I should know! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| What is the councils stance on all of this? Are they for or against (or don't care?) They have just said they need to cut £30+ million and some staff will be made redundant.
Getting behind this could be good PR for them, as in look at us trying to create X amount of new jobs. Or, it could be bad PR, as in they need to save all this money but here they are helping out WTRLFC (I know it's for community use, but non Wakefield fans are not going to see if like that)
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| Quote ="TRB"Because we'd be criticised even more!
We tell you all as much as we can. 90% of any development is in the bit before a brick is laid or a hole dug, we are no different, but there are a lot more people interested in this subject than the few who post, including many who read these pages.
What you suggest is idealistic, and I should know!
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I don't suppose anybody knows what conclusion will come from all of this, but one thing I do know and that is that personally I'd sooner have Ian, IA, and yourself fighting for our interests than nobody at all, because without your tremendous efforts we'd have nothing to cling on to.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We are the biggest City without a professional league football club.
[uYou have to go a long way down the list of cities in England before you find one not in the top 4 leagues and even further for conference.[/u
It's not a problem to me, just saying.'"
Our mutual friend is guilty of excessive use of the term poetic license, amongst other things we are not the biggest city without a top flight football team, that's stretching the point somewhat when you include the two deedar clubs' Bradford, York and Leeds as top flight, Hull City are top flight.
Not really there's one just up the road in Ripon and one a bit further up the road at Durham, Here are a few more to throw into the hat, Salford, Lancaster, Ely, Gloucester, Worcester,Salisbury, Wells, Truro, I'm not aware that any of these cities' play up to conference standard, as you say it's not a problem to you, just thought I'd mention it in the context of our mates post.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Our mutual friend is guilty of excessive use of the term poetic license, amongst other things we are not the biggest city without a top flight football team, that's stretching the point somewhat when you include the two deedar clubs' Bradford, York and Leeds as top flight, Hull City are top flight.
Not really there's one just up the road in Ripon and one a bit further up the road at Durham, Here are a few more to throw into the hat, Salford, Lancaster, Ely, Gloucester, Worcester,Salisbury, Wells, Truro, I'm not aware that any of these cities' play up to conference standard, as you say it's not a problem to you, just thought I'd mention it in the context of our mates post.'"
Barnsley ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="chissitt"Our mutual friend is guilty of excessive use of the term poetic license, amongst other things we are not the biggest city without a top flight football team, that's stretching the point somewhat when you include the two deedar clubs' Bradford, York and Leeds as top flight, Hull City are top flight.
Not really there's one just up the road in Ripon and one a bit further up the road at Durham, Here are a few more to throw into the hat, Salford, Lancaster, Ely, Gloucester, Worcester,Salisbury, Wells, Truro, I'm not aware that any of these cities' play up to conference standard, as you say it's not a problem to you, just thought I'd mention it in the context of our mates post.'"
I agree with that, when you use the city numbers rather than metro area, then it seems more reasonable.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Barnsley
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Although Barnsley's generally recognised as the capital of South Yorkshire, it has not applied at this moment in time to be elevated to City status, but when it does I fully expect it to become the administrative headquarters of the county, we will probably take over the Sheffield Eagles club because they too cannot find a decent permanent home and a move to Royal Oakwell would be a strong possibility, they were thinking of going to the keepmoat but unfortunately the majority of donny folk spend most of their time at the Appleby horse fair and it would not be financially viable ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Met with the club yesterday. Agreed a way forward. Some behind the scenes stuff to do.
I'm sure questions will be asked at the forum, but we remain limited in what we can say - for now!
Thank you all for your support.
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| Good stuff TRB!
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| Quote ="TRB"Met with the club yesterday. Agreed a way forward. Some behind the scenes stuff to do.
I'm sure questions will be asked at the forum, but we remain limited in what we can say - for now!
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Troll! ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Troll!
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Thanks for your support!
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| =#FF0000Thread cleaned up. Cut out the personal insults guys please.
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Sounds like there is a lot more 'robbing dogs' out there!!!
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Sounds like there is a lot more 'robbing dogs' out there!!!
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| That article does make for interesting/disheartening reading. Unfortunately it highlights how unscrupulous companies take advantage of local councils and government to stiff the general public. Sadly, this is nothing new and successive governments have been too quick to get into bed with these people and seemingly haven't learned from experience.
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| Quote ="TRB"Met with the club yesterday. Agreed a way forward. Some behind the scenes stuff to do.
I'm sure questions will be asked at the forum, but we remain limited in what we can say - for now!
Thank you all for your support.'"
Is that agreed a way forward to which stadium option we're going for or the way we will be challenging York Cort?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Is that agreed a way forward to which stadium option we're going for or the way we will be challenging York Cort?'"
This thing changes by the hour - or it seems that way at times!
We think we've got clarity on something then - bang - something else happens and it all opens up again.
I have made my views clear again today - including that I am in the NM camp, but I am more than happy with BV - provided it meets the criteria we set for NM. However, I still couldn't say which way to place your money as a betting man - there are arguments and reasons for and against both schemes right now.
Genuinely wish I knew. What I do know is that we have a group of very determined people who are willing to keep this fight going for as long as it takes! I am very proud to work with them - and they know who they are! ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| It ink I'm in the redevelop BV camp but only just and have perhaps been swayed by the probabability that it's the most likely outcome
Either way knowing the people involved Sandal Cat TRB IA Sir Rodney and the Chairman, I know we have a genuine and very capable team working hard for the club.
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| It annoys me something rotton that YorkCourt used every single one of us. Help fight the corner for the ground and the development and now they have dropped us like a bad apple. It actually burns me inside and I want revenge.
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