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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I'm not sure about:
Leeds: Lost a lot of depth and only one front-line player brought in. I'm sure their youngsters will be excellent in the long term, but they seem to lack a bit of experience once outside the first choice 17.
Wigan: As with Leeds, they seem to have lost a lot more than they have brought in. I don't think they have replaced Blake Green.
Catalan: Little squad depth below the first team again. If Carney doesn't meet expectations (or gets arrested) and Escare picks up an injury, they only seem to have very inexperienced young players to call upon.
I'm not saying all these teams will struggle, but with a bit of bad luck at least one of these could be looking over their shoulder come mid-season.'"
Whilst I can see what you're saying with regards to Leeds and Catalans, I can't agree on the Wigan assessment. They have brought some real power into the pack with the addition of Mossop, Patrick and Tautai (who I expect to really shine in a strong Wigan side). The loss of Blake Green I expect to be covered by the promotion of George Williams, Ryan Hampshire and Sam Powell.
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| The bookies (Wm Hill) are giving us 8 points on the handicap and it will probably be a tight first game.
Desperately hoping for a Wakey win and it's probably a good time to be playing them (we have a more settled squad and they have new players in key positions)
It would be a great game for Owen to score a couple and prove some of the doubters wrong.
Come on Trin !
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| maybe thats one of suprizes in sundays team alluded too at the fans forum that johnstone gets the nod ahead of owen
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| Quote ="desmond decker"maybe thats one of suprizes in sundays team alluded too at the fans forum that johnstone gets the nod ahead of owen'"
Think you're probably right there, I wouldn't enjoy seeing a Carney V Owen match up.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Think you're probably right there, I wouldn't enjoy seeing a Carney V Owen match up.'"
There aren't too many wingers that can match up to Carney.
We have to try and make sure that we either keep the ball away from him or, at least make him turn round.
The guy is a beast with ball in hand but, his game is all power and not quite so much fancy footwork etc.
Having said that, Owen against his old club should have a point to prove.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"There aren't too many wingers that can match up to Carney.
We have to try and make sure that we either keep the ball away from him or, at least make him turn round.
The guy is a beast with ball in hand but, his game is all power and not quite so much fancy footwork etc.
Having said that, Owen against his old club should have a point to prove.'"
I think teams later in the season got him Sussed, just make sure there is enough cover so your centre and winger can double tackle him.
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| Quote ="Crofton Wildcat"We will win on Sunday and also the following two rounds against Hull Kr and Widnes. I am very confident for all those three games. Saints in round 4 will probably be the first time we come a cropper.
They have three confirmed players missing on Sunday but I take it on good authority that Oliver Holmes and Roberts are also definitely missing, and Moors is doubtful. even if they had had a full team out I would have been super confident about winning, as the boys are buzzing, and they are not going to be the team they were last year. I am certain we will also win our first home game v Hull KR and although the next away game at Widnes will be tough we will win there too.
It will be tough making the top 8 but i think we have a very realistic chance as we will definitely come above our first 3 opponents.'"
Holmes, Roberts and Moors are all fit according to Powell in todays paper. I love your optimism but I think the clubs around the bottom are so close the hope to win all 3 three opening games is a big ask, although not an impossible one. They will all be tight I reckon with a score or so either way in each. If you offered me 2 wins from 3 now i'd snatch your hand off. FWIW i've got us down to finish 10th ahead of Hull KR and Widnes.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Holmes, Roberts and Moors are all fit according to Powell in todays paper. I love your optimism but I think the clubs around the bottom are so close the hope to win all 3 three opening games is a big ask, although not an impossible one. They will all be tight I reckon with a score or so either way in each.[u If you offered me 2 wins from 3 now i'd snatch your hand off. FWIW i've got us down to finish 10th ahead of Hull KR and Widnes.[/u'"
Agree on both points. Our squad might not be as big as Widnes, think they have over 30 odd players but imo it's got more quality. They're playing decent against Wigan tonight so far though.
Hull KR, they've had a masssive player turnover. As we know that can be a nightmare, especially the first half of the season, which is more important than ever to get off to a decent start and I'm not convinced by a couple of their big signings. Could be wrong but we'll see.
Bit off topic but great draw for Widnes that. Wigan lost it at the end there,very strange for them. 16-0 up 1 man advantage and they somehow manage to only draw. Hope this is sign of how close this season is going to be.
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| Think the way widnes battled tonight shows just how tight the bottom half of the table is going to be. We really have to be on our mettle from the get go.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Think the way widnes battled tonight shows just how tight the bottom half of the table is going to be. We really have to be on our mettle from the get go.'"
Yes, I think Wigan almost took it for granted at half time that they were going to come out, go through the motions and win. What they didn'y exect was the fight in Widnes and also how sometimes going a man down gives a team a bit of a lift and can cause the oposition problems. Mainly because they've nothing to lose and they start to play a bit mre off the cuff.
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| Think we need our half backs to click and the big forwards we've now got such as Paea, Simon, Ashurst, Scruton and Kirke to really toughen up our middle defensively and give decent go forward. If that happens we will surprise a few again this season including castleford and avoid the drop.
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| Wigan were garbage that second half. But credit to widnes they fought hard for that point. Thought it would be a walkover with the bus wide gaps first 20 in widnes's defensive line but they patched it up.
wigan look to lack some creativity at half backs. The number 6 doesn't look ready on first showing. He drove it in well but that was about it. I'm sure wigan will be up there but think this may be there area of weakness this year.
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| Just bringing it back to something Wakefield related, Tautai was a real handful as usual. Just that one mistake from what I can remember, when he went without the ball near the end.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"=#FF0000There aren't too many wingers that can match up to Carney.
We have to try and make sure that we either keep the ball away from him or, at least make him turn round.
The guy is a beast with ball in hand but, his game is all power and not quite so much fancy footwork etc.
Having said that, Owen against his old club should have a point to prove.'"
There aren't too many props either, you're correct though some teams sussed him out but some came unstuck.
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| Great game and a good result for 12 man Widnes. James Child ?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"There aren't too many props either, you're correct though some teams sussed him out but some came unstuck.'"
Give over!
I'm not having this mythology that's being built around a pretty one dimensional player. Pound for pound in a head on clash with a prop Carney comes second everytime. The only thing that allows him to ever win that type of contest is a bit of late footwork putting the prop off balance.
Carneys a big lad and a big winger but what he gains in one area makes him vulnerable in others, he's susceptible to agility and has the turning circle of an oil tanker.
Yes, I'd have him at Trinity tomorrow before you ask but gods gift to wingers he's not!
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| All tickets sold now just got back from the shop a lot of people wanting tickets. MC will let us know later today on twitter if you can still pay on the day. Think you will be able to pay on the day.
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| What was our allocation??
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| Quote ="bazzo44"All tickets sold now just got back from the shop a lot of people wanting tickets. MC will let us know later today on twitter if you can still pay on the day. Think you will be able to pay on the day.'"
Wouldn't bank on it, MC tweeted yesterday that the capacity is 9,000 plus.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"What was our allocation??'"
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| Quote ="bazzo44"All tickets sold now just got back from the shop a lot of people wanting tickets. MC will let us know later today on twitter if you can still pay on the day. Think you will be able to pay on the day.'"
Wish I had seen this before a wasted journey. Club still saying on Facebook they had 150 adult/concessions after your post (so that's a lie). So I wonder how many other people wasted there time. Shop staff are belligerent and quite frankly unhelpful. Stood waiting to ask about tickets and staff are on phone angrily gesturing at customer on other end. While other staff member is stood watching her behind the till. But anyway, I was looking forward to it been pretty full. Its not the same on the radio.
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| Been told that MC is contacting Cas to see if they have any spare tickets left over.
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| Quote ="RealSteel89"Wish I had seen this before a wasted journey. Club still saying on Facebook they had 150 adult/concessions after your post (so that's a lie).'"
Firstly the post saying they had around 150 tickets was at 1pm an hour before bazzo's post.
Secondly at 12:55 Michael Carter tweeted "Just 38 adult tickets left for tomorrow"
Lastly, why wait til last minute to buy, these tickets have been on sale for weeks. Personally I feel people have an agenda just to complain and as for the shop, I have had nothing but excellent service in both the ridings and ground shops and never witnessed any of the poor service and attitude that gets mentioned on here.
Last point. There is around 25 of us doing a sponsored walk to the game from Crigglestone to Weldon road tomorrow trying to raise much needed funds for our changing rooms at Crigglestone All Blacks we will be stopping at a couple of watering holes through normanton and Castleford and we would really appreciate any support and all are welcome to join in the walk, setting off 10:30am from Crigg All Blacks.
let's hope we are rewarded on the pitch by the efforts some fans are going to for this first game of the season WTID
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looks like a 0 has fallen off the end like the wall did
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