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| Quote ="Flubber"Damien Blanch????'"
Cant you read ?
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Cant you read ?'"
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| Quote ="Flubber"no
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Didn't think so. Ok so who would you play on wing and centre if ONLY george and gleeson were fit.
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| At this moment in time probably glees at centre and George on the wing but you said earlier there proper and recognised position where jk says George is a centre.
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| Quote ="LG"At this moment in time probably glees at centre and George on the wing but you said earlier there proper and recognised position where jk says George is a centre.'"
However, george isnt recognised as a Super League centre.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Didn't think so. Ok so who would you play on wing and centre if ONLY george and gleeson were fit.'"
erm Blanch.....
imho Gleeson i like the lad many dont but i do. sorry
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| Quote ="mwildcats"However, george isnt recognised as a Super League centre.'"
Not yet no, but in kears eyes a future centre yes
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Ask john kear where hes had more expierence in the super league and then ask him in time which his posistion would be.
Here's a question for you and chissit if there was on one side of the team a wing and a centre posistion free and only gleeson and george fit, which player would jk ask to fill the two posistions. ?'"
Am not quite sure really because I am not in the business of second guessing JK, imo he would probably put George on the wing and play Gleeson in the centre. That opinion is based on the fact that George is better in both positions and is equally at home at either and can adapt a lot better. And fwiw I will say again George is a centre what gets a game where he can when fit because of Martin and Atkins. Just like Grix is having to play winger because atm its the only place he can get a game.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"However, george isnt recognised as a Super League centre.'"
Why is that then. Can you explain to me briefly please in your opinion what the laid down criteria is for being a recognised SL centre.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Why is that then. Can you explain to me briefly please in your opinion what the laid down criteria is for being a recognised SL centre.'"
Playing in that posistion at SL level would imo constitute most peoples opinion on whether they were a recognised player there.
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| Quote ="Flubber"erm Blanch.....
imho Gleeson i like the lad many dont but i do. sorry'"
I dont know if your taking p1ss, cant read or are drunk.
Ok ill try to explain it once more,
If there were two posistions to be filled in the centre and wing posistion
and there was only gleeson and george fit to play in these posistions i.e. blanch was injured etc
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wing : george - centre: gleeson
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wing: gleeson - centre: george
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Playing in that posistion at SL level would imo constitute most peoples opinion on whether they were a recognised player there.'"
So if I have got this right then, what you are saying that its the fans what have the final say whether or not a player is recognised in a particular position and not the coach. That is a very interesting theory cant say that I agree with it though.
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| Quote ="chissitt"So if I have got this right then, what you are saying that its the fans what have the final say whether or not a player is recognised in a particular position and not the coach. That is a very interesting theory cant say that I agree with it though.'"
So if I have got this right then, what you are saying is that if a coach believes a player can play in a particular posistion without ever playing there at SL level he is recognised in that posistion. That is a very interesting theory cant say that I agree with it though.
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| I think George has played most if not all sl games on the wing, so when you see his name in squad you presume he will be played on the wing
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| Quote ="mwildcats"So if I have got this right then, what you are saying is that if a coach believes a player can play in a particular posistion without ever playing there at SL level he is recognised in that posistion. That is a very interesting theory cant say that I agree with it though.'"
I am sure JK will take into account your fears that because George has never played centre for the club in your opinion he isnt one. He was brought from Hudds as a centre by Kear for the future not to be thrown in immediately, and due to injuries has maybe not progressed as quickly as the club would like. And if you throw in Martin and Atkins it makes it even harder for him. I have no intention of going down this road again because I have said this in an earlier post which you chose to ignore. For the sake of harmony I think we will have to agree to disagree. But the last word from me is that George is a centre, not a winger and any smart words' from you will not change that.
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| Quote ="adam9641"I think George has played most if not all sl games on the wing, so when you see his name in squad you presume he will be played on the wing'"
Your quite right there. There are a few players at the club what are not playing in their preferred positions because of differenf circumstances' and because of the length of time they have had to play there you tend to assume its their natural position.
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| Ok chissit if your going to the audience with on tuesday, you ask john kear if HE thinks george is a recognised SL centre?
I'd be intrested to hear what he has to say.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Ok chissit if your going to the audience with on tuesday, you ask john kear if HE thinks george is a recognised SL centre?
I'd be intrested to hear what he has to say.'"
You are trying to muddy the waters with this recognised SL centre business. George is a centre first and foremost which was my original argument. You are trying to turn this round to your advantage with this recognition bit. It could well be that he never gets a game at centre and has to play on the wing or at prop. Personally I couldnt care less. But yes I will ask him if that is his preferred position, If Kear says he came as a winger I will put £20 into the AW fund if you will put £10 into it if he came as a centre, agreed
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| Quote ="chissitt"You are trying to muddy the waters with this recognised SL centre business. George is a centre first and foremost which was my original argument. You are trying to turn this round to your advantage with this recognition bit. It could well be that he never gets a game at centre and has to play on the wing or at prop. Personally I couldnt care less. But yes I will ask him if that is his preferred position, If Kear says he came as a winger I will put £20 into the AW fund if you will put £10 into it if he came as a centre, agreed
Regards'"
Thought the other comment was your last word ,
Your missing the point here. You agreed with me over players should be played in their prefered or RECOGNISED posistion, then went onto suggest he is a centre. However in the last two or so years he hasnt played at centre but a winger. I then said he wasnt a recognised SL centre as he hasnt played in that posistion (which he hasnt). I dont care what he came as but what he is now and what he has proven to be an adequate sl winger.
And i didnt ask you to ask jk what his preffered posistion was, albeit rather whether he was a recognised sl centre.
I fear we are going round in circles and this is because I am right, so this is the Last word on this from me.
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| Your original statement said play players in there proper/recognised position. Ask jk on Tuesday wat he thinks is george proper/ recognised position.....argument answered.
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| Quote ="LG"Your original statement said play players in there proper/recognised position. Ask jk on Tuesday wat he thinks is george proper/ recognised position.....argument answered.'"
Like I said when you see George name in the squad you expect him to play on the wing so that you mean you recognise him as a winger.
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| Would love to see Rooney make a return if fit enough, think hes got a great rugby brain on him and can spot gaps in defences better than most. A proper stand off too, anyone know how hes getting on?
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| Quote ="TFC"Would love to see Rooney make a return if fit enough, think hes got a great rugby brain on him and can spot gaps in defences better than most. A proper stand off too, anyone know how hes getting on?'"
If we can get the real Rooney back it would be a massive bonus for us.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Like I said when you see George name in the squad you expect him to play on the wing so that you mean you recognise him as a winger.'"
Adam that's not my argument. If you see atkins, martin, gleeson and George in a squad they are all centres but you don't have four centres in your team. Some may have to play out of position.
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