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| Quote ="Daddycool"With respect I can't answer that. Discussions are ongoing.'"
Fair enough, no probs.
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| What I do like is how no one has a clue these days who the players are till they are announced. Back in Teds day we all knew weeks before announcements were made.
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| Don't afto.to judge a player by how many super league clubs are queuing up for them ,you judge on what you see and what you can do with em, I was around when the last great trinity side played apart from maybe half a dozen they were Wakefield lads ,laugh and say I'm old fashioned but Wigan have done it through history,pride in their town and club means a lot and wasn't it only 2 or 3 yes ago we beat a Wigan side containing a few of their present first team squad in a national final,and I'll wager the player daddy cool is talking about is not a Wakefield lad
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| He's not. Again let's not sign him then. I'll sign Jane McDonald if my coach and CEO say she'll do a job for us and it fits our budget. And that is the only 2 criteria required.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"He's not. Again let's not sign him then. I'll sign Jane McDonald if my coach and CEO say she'll do a job for us and it fits our budget. And that is the only 2 criteria required.'"
She can sing when we are winning. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| Well at least we know who's making the signings and to praise if they come off and blame if they dont
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"She can sing when we are winning.
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This is Jayne Macdonald we're on about here, FFS why do you want to hear her sing ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| Quote ="try scorer"Well at least we know who's making the signings and to praise if they come off and blame if they dont'"
You can blame me for them all, that's never been a problem
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| Sammut it is then. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Can't blame you you've just told me youl sign whoever the coach and CEO reccomend'their not from Wakefield either and whatever they say they don't possess the passion of myself and a few others on here
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| Quote ="try scorer"Can't blame you you've just told me youl sign whoever the coach and CEO reccomend'their not from Wakefield either and whatever they say they don't possess the passion of myself and a few others on here'"
Surely passion in these matters is a negative. Would much prefer a calm, level headed, dispassionate approach personally
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| Who else do you want to make the signings? The kit man?
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| I too would like to see a team of Wakefield lads ruling the roost again, but it aint going to happen. We can all get misty eyed over the team 1960's but it's soon going to be 2014, populations are transient, loyalty is not the valued commodity it once was (sadly).
A sportsman's career is generally a short one and they have to maximise their earnings within that short time (and pay an agent), so invariably they will "chase the brass". Sure there are exceptions but that's the way its is.
Whilst sad to lose such as Kay, I'm glad to see that this regime really means it when they say they will only spend what they can afford. There's been to0 much 'smoke and mirrors' at Wakefield in the near forty years I've been watching.
Very, very few of us run our lives by spending more than we've got, so why do we expect our Rugby League team to. It's alright quoting Wigan as the paragon of virtue when it comes to home grown players. Take a look at this Wigan side when they were in their pomp in the 1988 Challenge Cup Final:
Lydon. K.Iro, T.Iro, Bell, Gill,
Edwards, Gregory, Case, Kiss, Shelford, Goodway, Potter, Hanley.
By my reckoning Four Kiwis, Two from Widnes, One from Leigh, One from Bradford, and one from Huddersfield and one from Cas. Three from Wigan
That sustained success that these and others like them bought them the structures they have in place today to produce more home grown players that we see today.
If the players we sign now and in the next few years bring us the success to enable us to upgrade our structures then that's fine by me.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Don't afto.to judge a player by how many super league clubs are queuing up for them ,you judge on what you see and what you can do with em, I was around when the last great trinity side played apart from maybe half a dozen they were Wakefield lads ,laugh and say I'm old fashioned but Wigan have done it through history,pride in their town and club means a lot and wasn't it only 2 or 3 yes ago we beat a Wigan side containing a few of their present first team squad in a national final,and I'll wager the player daddy cool is talking about is not a Wakefield lad'"
Of course long term we would all like a Wakefield based team but that isn't where we are so no point moaning about it.
But equally you can't just rewrite history to prove a point without someone picking you up.
Sean Wane is one of only 2 Wigan born coaches since 1984
The other was Mike Gregory who wasn't there long through no fault of his own but could hardly be assigned a legacy of Wigan players.
Before them Murphy and then Colin Clarke covered 4 years in early 80s.
10 years before that another one.
None of the coaches through the 60s were Wigan boys.
Playing wise, their great team of the 90s had Robinson and Offiah, Goodway, Gregory, Skerrett, Platt, Betts along with the overseas players. None were from Wigan.
The great Wakefield team of the 60s? Half a dozen as you say were not Wakefield. That's half the team. None of these were from Wakefield.
Gerry Round
Fred Smith
Alan Skene
Gert Coetzer
Jack Wilkinson
Don Vines
Even Turner went elsewhere before coming back to us.
We should indeed try to build a local team, but don't try to tell us that's the only way, or that the most successful teams did it.
In all cases it's a mix.
As for Daddycool not being a Wakefield boy.
Were the chairmen from Wakefield preferable to you?
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| Lol. Great minds think alike Mr Gill.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Lol. Great minds think alike Mr Gill.'"
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| Quote ="try scorer"Can't blame you you've just told me youl sign whoever t[uhe coach and CEO reccomend'their not from Wakefield [/ueither and whatever they say they don't possess the passion of myself and a few others on here'"
Are you sure about that my old coffin dodging chum!!!
Kath Hetherington is from Fev and im sure Agar is from Fev/Ponte and the last time i looked these areas are among the five towns of Wakefield.
The problem is we dont have areas like Eastmoor producing the coal mining rugby players with the passion to play for Wakefield anymore, for two reasons,no pits and the estates are little more now then a giant housing area for immigrants.
You need to stop living in the past and constantly trying to sugar coat everything that happened then.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Don't afto.to judge a player by how many super league clubs are queuing up for them ,you judge on what you see and what you can do with em, I was around when the last great trinity side played apart from maybe half a dozen they were Wakefield lads ,laugh and say I'm old fashioned but Wigan have done it through history,pride in their town and club means a lot and wasn't it only 2 or 3 yes ago we beat a Wigan side containing a few of their present first team squad in a national final,and I'll wager the player daddy cool is talking about is not a Wakefield lad'"
Wigan haven't signed players from the Wakefield/Normanton area lately, have they?
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| Your probably right turfy ,trouble is every thing seemed sugar coated then
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| Quote ="try scoyer"Your probably right turfy ,trouble is every thing seemed sugar coated then'"
Lol. Different yes. Sugar coated no.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Don't afto.to judge a player by how many super league clubs are queuing up for them ,you judge on what you see and what you can do with em, I was around when the last great trinity side played apart from maybe half a dozen they were Wakefield lads ,laugh and say I'm old fashioned but Wigan have done it through history,pride in their town and club means a lot and wasn't it only 2 or 3 yes ago we beat a Wigan side containing a few of their present first team squad in a national final,and I'll wager the player daddy cool is talking about is not a Wakefield lad'"
You can remember the team of the early 60's then just like me.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Can't blame you you've just told me youl sign whoever the coach and CEO reccomend'their not from Wakefield either and whatever they say they don't possess the passion of myself and a few others on here'"
No professional sportsperson is passionate who they play for only passionate about how much money they are making.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"I too would like to see a team of Wakefield lads ruling the roost again, but it aint going to happen. We can all get misty eyed over the team 1960's but it's soon going to be 2014, populations are transient, loyalty is not the valued commodity it once was (sadly).
A sportsman's career is generally a short one and they have to maximise their earnings within that short time (and pay an agent), so invariably they will "chase the brass". Sure there are exceptions but that's the way its is.
Whilst sad to lose such as Kay, I'm glad to see that this regime really means it when they say they will only spend what they can afford. There's been to0 much 'smoke and mirrors' at Wakefield in the near forty years I've been watching.
Very, very few of us run our lives by spending more than we've got, so why do we expect our Rugby League team to. It's alright quoting Wigan as the paragon of virtue when it comes to home grown players. Take a look at this Wigan side when they were in their pomp in the 1988 Challenge Cup Final:
Lydon. K.Iro, T.Iro, Bell, Gill,
Edwards, Gregory, Case, Kiss, Shelford, Goodway, Potter, Hanley.
By my reckoning Four Kiwis, Two from Widnes, One from Leigh, One from Bradford, and one from Huddersfield and one from Cas. Three from Wigan
That sustained success that these and others like them bought them the structures they have in place today to produce more home grown players that we see today.
If the players we sign now and in the next few years bring us the success to enable us to upgrade our structures then that's fine by me.'"
Here here brilliant post.
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| Quote ="Jason"What I do like is how no one has a clue these days who the players are till they are announced. Back in Teds day we all knew weeks before announcements were made.'"
David Solomona? Probably our biggest signing in SL and no bugger knew.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Your probably right turfy ,trouble is every thing seemed sugar coated then'"
Im sure we would all like to see more local lads involved,as someone born and bred on Eastmoor i would love to see another Belly/JT.
They maybe still out there - just in fewer supply.
Ah the 60s - what a great team we had,but unfortunately we never built on the success for a multitude of reasons.
We have what we have now in the present not due to the last 5/10 years,but due to the last 40 years of management.Its been a steady decline over the last 40 years interrupted by the odd bright spot.
The Wakefield area will always be a breeding ground for future stars as long as we have quality amatuer local rugby.
The challenge for Trinity is to make them juniors believe that Trinity is the club for them,rather than just expecting the junior to want to play for them.
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