I think he's referring to supporters of the opposition both at our place and at a couple of our away games.

I have to agree with Bren, some of the language and physical intimidation towards 13 year olds is shameful!

Was there any touch line managers present,

I understand coaching is a thankless task but I believe the blame lies with them.My lad plays u11's and every week if not top tackler he is in the top 3 but cannot get his hands on the ball cos 2-3 kids have it superglued to their hands.At the moment they can't buy a win but the coach will not change the way they play and 2 weeks ago packed it in but is still doing it even tho somebody else is doing it.When you speak to him he hides behind the club and is arrogant but yet as a parent you are expected to just stand and watch while the spirit is drained from the team and they just argue between themselves to the extent that 2 have gone this week.

Thankless task!!

I can't agree - I've no doubt that some jr coaches are unsuitable for the role, but the majority of them are trying their best and are equally disgusted about the conduct of some spectators as I am.

On the issue of touchline managers - they have no real power and as we discovered today, can do very little about determinedly truculent individuals.

My point about it being a thankless task is that they cannot please everybody but also speaking from my point of view cannot take criticism even though sometimes what you are trying to say is as plain as the nose on their face but cos you may be saying something about one of their favourites they will not discuss it.

Yep ..I was the Crigg one & our parents were fine as far as I was concearned .
I'll leave it at that as I don't really post on this thread anymore .

I will also add that I do this reluctantly- but they'd be no game otherwise ( same can be said of the ref - but at least he gets paid !).

Take my hat off to anyone doing the job.
I did my level two a good few years back so I could coach open age and coping with some of them egomaniacs was bad enough.
I know plenty of adults with kids playing sport and most of them are standard issue human beings, however all sanity leaves most of them when little jonny enters the field of play.
Let's be fare, you only have to read this forum to realise how clueless most of us are, but junior sport turns many into absolute doylems.
Anyone who gives their free time to enable youngsters to participate in something as great as RL or anything for that matter is the bizzo for me.
It must be hard enough keeping a lid on the kids, let alone resisting chinning the mums and dads!!!

Best thing I've read on here in donkeys KC - well said !

In fairness, most of the adults involved are fine - it's the behaviour of a vocal minority that can ruin the experience for the moderate majority; it does their parent club and the game of RL itself absolutely no favours at all.

I think is very graious of you and I echo the sentiment that it won't
Be long before your winning again. You know I've never kept it a secret
About liking Cas p matches and today won't change any of that. It had the
Underdog sticking it up em , good try's , belting infield action,
Whiter than White (as a phase mods) kids who never do anything
Wrong. And of course a referee who gets blamed
For all the failings at that moment in time , yet all forget that
At times 12/13/14 year olds are sent to these matches. If you have a look in the kit bag they don't have a "big screen" or 2 linespersons they don't have ingoal technology and as for the guy in the stand


What they do have is the R. E. S. P. E. C. T. Codes. I feel warm inside tonight in the knowledge that the Crigg players got the coaches b@@@@@@ng deserved for their part

Great game

I feel I should add some balance to what I wrote earlier.

There are some extremely selfless and amazing people involved with the junior game as well, many of whom do their bit month in month out for no other reason than to provide children with a chance to play Rugby League.

There are some excellent forward thinking coaches who understand 'development' and work hard to improve their players win lose or draw, it's not about trophies for them!

There are some amazing parents at every club, they fund, fetch, carry, taxi and support for all the right reasons!

They far outnumber the types from my earlier post and along with the enjoyment of coaching and developing young players they make the it a very worthy vocation.

Hi again need to clear a few things up
from fact fiction etc

1. A referee must not put himself in dangour
If a mass brawl ensues .
( running on telling him he's the causes when you coach them does nothing long term, go figure it. )

2. Those wanting referee to break up fights , in what order ? Does he pull out your jimmybobbs first only for some one to punch him whilst he does ?

3. As soon as a 15 year old touches your somn it's trouble, once it's a 16 year + the ref is looking at trouble

I find it disturbing that a group of sane humans can heckle , sware , shout , get in the face of a child ( yep some are men/beans) but today .

Yes the ref looked inexperienced , it may of been his 1st
Might be his last , but I will assure you this

The Wakefield district refs are a tough lot
and from my lad to his own mentor Ben T

r
And if you have a complaint make it good. Don't get me wrong ebb will act upon it but if as a coach you been bad then wooosh

Had the strangest of P Ms with regards my own son and his appearances in match reports . This came admittedly from the Humber but the guy is normally in touch with the coach who crigg played yesterday. All Russ wanted to know was did he still play as they had heard nothing of him .

Well after looking in the packed trophy cabinet I can confirm that although as known by those who need to know like his phyisio and coach etc that reports of his demise have been strongly exaggerated .

He's looking forward to get back into the shape that got him the coaches man of steel in the quater and semi final of the last cup we won

I hope this clears this up and remember he is 12

couldn't agree more,I have been involved since my lad was 6,he is now nearly 16,I too am a touchline manager and fortunately have never had to speak to any of our parents whilst doing it.unfortunately like an early poster said ,you get verbals now and again from the other side of the pitch towards players and officials but your hands are tied as you can only speak to your own supporters.I feel this aspect of the game will be hard to eradicate if ever.I just hope the kids,officials and the coaches ,who give up their time keep turning up and not driven away by a selfish and mindless minority.Keep up the good work,thanks,the vast majority do appreciate it.

I think a lot of parents are caught in the same situation.

I've been watching and helping since the under 9s, there are some more dominate bigger players within teams at that young age which is difficult to get them to release the ball as it starts off driving the ball on runs, off loads or passes then tend to form a swarm around the ball, quite endearing at a young age but frustrating as the kids grow up, try telling 10 year old to stay in position and keep focus on the ball takes some doing.

the next stage is you will get kids that start to run across the line passing all the players that are hold station waiting for the ball and their chance.

it doesn't get any easier as they grow up but a good coach should be able to talk to their parents and the parents should have some trust in there coaching

is the arguing between players or parents?

very pleased today as Stanley Rangers u14s sealed the Division 1 title today with a 14-10 victory over Oulton Raiders







well done lads

Between the players they were at it before they started on Saturday but after talking to the young un after it turns out it is always the same kid who wants more of the ball even though he gets it probably twice a set,every set,the problem there being he is the coaches favourite with everything that comes with that and also his dad shouting on the sidelines that he should get even more ball.This in turn is causing an underlying tension between the parents.

This ones going to be a tricky one to sort out if the coach can't see that its splitting the team, and the parent isn't approachable.
I would be tempted to mention to the coach that it is a team event

I've been there and still watch certain players even now monopolise the ball but it doesn't stop your lad developing.
I've always taught my lad to look for the break away and follow in their trail hoping for that pass, they tend to look mighty foolish keeping that ball when an open chance goes begging.

think its summet that happens in all ages of junior rugby my lad plays at u8s and parents a always saying its same collective two or three that gets most of the ball and there probally right i know why its done cos there generally better players and a coach (who is in the middle at that age) will always look to his better players to get them away from own try line or get over the whitewash esp when losing at the time but i can see and understand why the parents find it unfair as its the same with subbing.i say this as a parent of lad who is always in top three of ball carries but in top three of tackles too

Panthers 12s host oulton Vikings tommorow looking to build on last weeks good performance at crigglestone,the panthers will have to Cope without 3 good players but that's life you play with the cards you are dealt.

Stanley Rangers u14s travel to Normanton Knights on sunday crowned champions so the pressures off but will still be a good derby match ko 10-30

We've got West Bowling away tomorrow - we put a big score on them last time, but I understand they've improved a lot since then, so it should be an interesting one.

Panthers 12s beat oulton Vikings 30-4 with another solid performance,oulton were far from there best but tackled well on there own line for long periods.for the panthers missing players in key areas again took another step in the right direction.