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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You are right that we are indeed responsible for our own actions.
However, the direction and example should be set by those in charge and they have been found wanting.
Even the PM's dad, who is in the over 70's group, went of on an "essential" trip to check that his properties were covid safe.
Not only have high level government ministers and advisors pleased themselves, when called out, to a man, they have been backed by the PM and allowed to carry on. What message does this send to the masses ?
Is it, stick to the guidelines and help keep everyone safe or, is it, do as you please ?
As for "responsible adults, they will be out getting severely hammered tonight.
By 9.30, social distancing will be done and the quest for the next pint will take priority over EVERYTHING and all this, encouraged by everyone from the PM, Prince William etc.
As I said, this is all about leadership and setting an example.
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Let’s be honest here, the Government have only allowed pubs to reopen again so they can’t be blamed for a second spike. I mean, they’ve relaxed lockdown restrictions for overseas travel even though a lot of countries haven’t (for us).
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| Quote ="Willzay"Let’s be honest here, the Government have only allowed pubs to reopen again so they can’t be blamed for a second spike.
Toattly agree (and not just the pubs)
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| Quote ="Willzay"Let’s be honest here, the Government have only allowed pubs to reopen again so they can’t be blamed for a second spike. I mean, they’ve relaxed lockdown restrictions for overseas travel even though a lot of countries haven’t (for us).'"
Can I get a pint of what you are drinking! Do you live in a parallel conspiracy theory area or are you just anti govt or the General in the Hindsight Brigade?
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Can I get a pint of what you are drinking! Do you live in a parallel conspiracy theory area or are you just anti govt or the General in the Hindsight Brigade?'"
What ever it is I bet it wasn’t as nice as the pint of John Smiths I had last night
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| Quote ="Willzay"Let’s be honest here, the Government have only allowed pubs to reopen again so they can’t be blamed for a second spike. I mean, they’ve relaxed lockdown restrictions for overseas travel even though a lot of countries haven’t (for us).'"
Everyone is responsible for their actions.
You seem (as usual) to have forgotten about all the bell e*ds who decided before the 4th July to go to the beach and take part in protest marches......
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"What ever it is I bet it wasn’t as nice as the pint of John Smiths I had last night
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Nice one BLM.
I decided (my choice) to go and support my local - and I have to say that everything was in place and correctly adhered to by everyone.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Nice one BLM.
I decided (my choice) to go and support my local - and I have to say that everything was in place and correctly adhered to by everyone.'"
Same here BG, the local Club had nailed it with the restrictions and great to catch up with mates. Very quiet really, about 50 people over the couple of hours we were there, a good natter about all things rugby
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Same here BG, the local Club had nailed it with the restrictions and great to catch up with mates. Very quiet really, about 50 people over the couple of hours we were there, a good natter about all things rugby
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I think the vast majority of us are using common sense. Shopping, going to the pub and going to work are tasks we now undertake using a completely different set of rules to pre-covid days. Doesn't make for news though or click-bait on Twitter. Everyone just focuses on these individuals and groups of morons who think only of themselves. I think The Guardian has been the biggest culprit (after Tovarish Wizay of course).
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| Visited Wetherspoons at Garforth this afternoon. everybody seemed to be acting very civilised, and I've got to admit all their covid protection protocol seemed to be well thought out and being adhered to. pre- covid it was always packed on a Sunday, but everyone seemed safely spaced. Hope it's the same in all their outlets.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Visited Wetherspoons at Garforth this afternoon. everybody seemed to be acting very civilised, and I've got to admit all their covid protection protocol seemed to be well thought out and being adhered to. pre- covid it was always packed on a Sunday, but everyone seemed safely spaced. Hope it's the same in all their outlets.'"
Not in Ponte apparently a bit of fighting took place!
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Not in Ponte apparently a bit of fighting took place!'"
That's Ponte. They probably all think it's 5G.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Not in Ponte apparently a bit of fighting took place!'"
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"That's Ponte. =#FF0000They probably all think it's 5G.'"
Doubt it.
They won't know what that is!
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I was walking past the Broken Bridge in Ponty yesterday with my kids just before it started. Sky has just turned black and I was really tempted to go in but very glad I carried on instead. That wouldn't have been nice for young uns to witness. Can you imagine using your first day back at the peggy tub since February to have a fight. You can have one of them anytime.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/yorks ... f-18546721
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I was walking past the Broken Bridge in Ponty yesterday with my kids just before it started. Sky has just turned black and I was really tempted to go in but very glad I carried on instead. That wouldn't have been nice for young uns to witness. Can you imagine using your first day back at the peggy tub since February to have a fight. You can have one of them anytime.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/yorks ... f-18546721
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| I blame all those misguided gullible folk who fell for that cuddly, lovable image in the first place. How naiive can people get? His loathsome actions were made very apparent in his cowardice and lies during the brexit debacle. He's just compounding those actions now with his latest attack on care homes. How long now before he's running down and criticising the NHS before trying to flog it off? Get rid of the man and his cronies now!!
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| He is following the Trump playbook by getting a view out there then get the others to defend and explain his position whilst not apologising. How many times has he left Grant Shapps out to dry which is no bad thing but not good when it comes from the leader of his party.
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| Quote ="Redscat" Get rid of the man and his cronies now!!'"
Serious question. Do you think the Conservatives would lose a general election tomorrow?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Serious question. Do you think the Conservatives would lose a general election tomorrow?'"
Serious answer, Wollo, No!!. Because, believe it or not, there are still some folks still gullible enough to believe all the clap trap and excuses that he pours out daily. The one thing that got him there was the brexit ticket, by the time the next election comes around all that will be forgotten and, if, God forbid, the man is still in office, then all those that were "taken in" will have hopefully regained their sanity and vote for the party that will put the working class first.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Serious answer, Wollo, No!!. Because, believe it or not, there are still some folks still gullible enough to believe all the clap trap and excuses that he pours out daily. The one thing that got him there was the brexit ticket, by the time the next election comes around all that will be forgotten and, if, God forbid, the man is still in office, then all those that were "taken in" will have hopefully regained their sanity and vote for the party that will put the working class first.'"
Or they could remember all the money poured into those working classes you refer to when they needed it. You can always find a spin to get the answer you want.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Serious question. Do you think the Conservatives would lose a general election tomorrow?'"
The Tory machine is already working on who to blame for the high death toll. Let's see if the electorate are going to take the bait and make scapegoats of the chosen targets...
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| So easy for some to criticise this government, not seen any credible alternative solutions to the problems they've supposedly caused, maybe they're just the best of a bad bunch, being a local councillor in Wakefield is difficult enough the way some people on here think, can't imagine what it's like trying to get things right running the country.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Serious answer, Wollo, No!!. Because, believe it or not, there are still some folks still gullible enough to believe all the clap trap and excuses that he pours out daily. The one thing that got him there was the brexit ticket, by the time the next election comes around all that will be forgotten and, if, God forbid, the man is still in office, then all those that were "taken in" will have hopefully regained their sanity and vote for the party that will put the working class first.'"
The Brexit ticket helped to get him in power,but let’s not kid ourselves here,that’s not the one thing!
The lack of any credible opposition was the main reason the Conservatives cantered to the massive majority.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"So easy for some to criticise this government, not seen any credible alternative solutions to the problems they've supposedly caused, maybe they're just the best of a bad bunch, being a local councillor in Wakefield is difficult enough the way some people on here think, can't imagine what it's like trying to get things right running the country.'"
It is very easy because they have been appalling which fortunately with the floods when he was at absent it impacted property. He then continued to be absent from the first five COBRA meetings sorting out his divorce and his fiancée baby shower. Then despite a warning on PPE in a 2016 review (report withheld) and two weeks during which it spread through Italy what did he do (go to a rugby match). He treated it like an influenza virus despite warnings from other countries. The problem this time was that it did not impact bricks and mortar but sadly people’s lives resulting in the U.K. having one of the highest excess death rates in the world. This is not something to be proud of and please don’t quote it would be worse under Corbyn because unless you can visit an alternative universe you don’t know and then hindsight because he received many warnings which he ignored.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It is very easy because they have been appalling which fortunately with the floods when he was at absent it impacted property. He then continued to be absent from the first five COBRA meetings sorting out his divorce and his fiancée baby shower. Then despite a warning on PPE in a 2016 review (report withheld) and two weeks during which it spread through Italy what did he do (go to a rugby match). He treated it like an influenza virus despite warnings from other countries. The problem this time was that it did not impact bricks and mortar but sadly people’s lives resulting in the U.K. having one of the highest excess death rates in the world. This is not something to be proud of and please don’t quote it would be worse under Corbyn because unless you can visit an alternative universe[u you don’t know and then hindsight because he received many warnings which he ignored.[/u'"
Ah hindsight, a wonderful talent to have at your disposal.
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