Dear Bren

Don't agree with you, or not where this poster is concerned.

He has used any chance to point out his pet scenario - this is a scenario we are all aware of, not least TRB - it's also one of the more likely scenarios. No one hiding the truth.

So what and big deal.

SWAG and TRB's job isn't to accept defeat and push the negative, it's to be positive and active until such point as the battle is truly lost - it isn't yet as far as I can see.

TRB and IA may be fanatical in their belief that we deserve something but they are not stupid, they are not going to spend a large portion of their free time chasing the impossible, and to me that is the arrogance and insensitivity of "experts" like sixtogo that annoys. Though I have never suggested they can't post, but why should they post with impunity?

We are all fully aware that his pet scenario is a possibility, even a distinct one, however without the relentless efforts of TRB and IA it's an absolute certainty IMHO.

So rather than go on like some Uncle Mort character with pint truly half full, support the lads or better still help them. I mean with 25 years alleged service in planning you'd think he'd be chomping at the bit - I would, but unfortunately I only do print and design so my input isn't required for now.

Finally it's not for me to second-guess TRB's state of mind but knowing him as I do some of the barbs and negativity he gets will hurt. The guys are volunteers for heavens sake, one isn't even a Trinity fan and at the end of all this all they will either get a footnote in the clubs history or an ulcer and maybe some self satisfaction.

Thanks for your time.

I'm free!

I'm not so much hurt by the comments, as a little frustrated by them and by the inability for people to try and see the world from over here. That frustration also stems from not having been able to discuss matters publicly - which is why folk 'hit-out'.

I'm not sure what happens next. We have several ideas / options and we will review them all before any action.

Would I have done this if I'd known, 10 years ago, that this would be where we are at - too bloomin' right I would, because we at least have a case to fight with/for. Without the previous 10 years we'd certainly have nothing, and may well have been booted out of SL before now!

Michael can speak for himself, but I doubt he'd be here if there hadn't been the possibility of a new stadium, nor Glover before him!

As a supporter for going on 60 years even I find it difficult at times to 'keep faith' and look forward positively.
I think its not knowing as to whether or not we are to get anything at all out of the situation.
This is not meant to be negative , but as I see it ,enough to make considerable ground improvements, would not be failure on the part of those 'fighting the cause'.
Keep at it TRB, IA and others.

TRB - If Cas Tigers do get the go-ahead for the new site at Glasshoughton (I know alot on here think it will never happen) will your plans and options change at all?
How would such a development (if granted) affect the council's stance on Newmarket?

Same here which is why I support TRB and co.

It's not that I'm trying to crawl round him or think he's some kind of saint, heck I have my suspicions that he may even be a ginger!

But you have to admire them and IMHO no matter what your doubts these guys at the very least deserve the benefit.

Interesting!

What are we actually waiting for TRB it doesnt look like anything is going to come of the meeting its time to get rough now.
We have the worse sporting facilities in the country
Wakefield have a massive obesity problem one of the biggest in Europe
We are the biggest city in UK with not a top flight football team
We dont own our own ground the list is endless

WAITING FOR WHAT?

Where on earth did you get obesity problem from?

I can tell you now Wakefield isn't even in the top 25 cities in the country for obesity levels let alone Europe, actually 49th on the list way behind the likes of Barnsley and Doncaster.

Do you just sit at your computer making things up?

Nah - explained enough.

As usual the people who are supposed to be representing the supporters have told us nothing. We are told we must be patient.I would be more likely to keep the faith if they told us exactly what happened at the meeting.These are not a state secrets. You haven't had to sign the official secrets act. In most meetings minutes are taken. If you have nothing to hide let us have them.

Waiting patiently for some positive news, in the meantime feel free to make things up as you go along, one bit of positive news for you though Richard Owen scored twice on Sunday

He's right about the football club

By all means offer your services assisting wherever you can and you'll get to be involved in said meetings.

Some of us have a sense of responsibility.

Playing the details out in public would not benefit us!

Believe us or not, that is / has been the truth!

I do not appreciate the suggestion that I have something to hide - this is not for my personal benefit! You do understand that, don't you?

I've resisted posting on this matter because whatever I say tends to lead to more questions, questions that we cannot answer on here because of the implications and the fact that it may be prejudicial to whatever actions may or may not occur.

If supporters have no faith in us and me personally then you know what to do. Come forward and replace us, I'll happily stand aside, but be prepared to give up many hours of your time, have lots of pain and anguish and sleepless nights and criticism from people on here, the choice is yours.

We have nothing to hide and we are working tirelessly to achieve something, be it a new stadium at Newmarket or a redeveloped Belle Vue that the citizens of Wakefield and supporters of Wakefield Trinity can be proud of.

As TRB said earlier, you can either trust us or not, its as simple as that.

Sorry, but this needs a reply! I don't usually let these sort of posts get to me, but this has got right up my nose!

Are you really so daft or are you just a troll? Lets go with daft, for the sake of argument and my following post.

We are involved in a difficult, complex, often heated and protracted three-way negotiation process. Sir Rodney has said, twice, that this is the most complex thing he has ever been involved with and he really isn't saying that for effect or to impress the rest of us, he said it because it is true! Given the things he has done and been involved with over his career then maybe that might give you a little perspective?

So, now that I have spent the last 5 years of my life (and TRB's and others involvement is much longer, this is not a boast, I am the newbie) and we have been made TRUSTEES of the Stadium TRUST (there is a really, really big clue there mate, just in case you miss it!), and just this week alone probably spent about 7 or so business hours (you know, the hours I am supposed to be earning money) on this already, with more to do tomorrow, what we are going to do is completely undermine everything everyone has been working towards for all these years, by coming on an internet forum and telling you word for word what was said, and by whom, and hereby completely blowing our credibility in the process and any chance we had of actually getting the result we all want? Is that it, is that what we should be doing?

Well, in that case I am the wrong person for this job, so I am going to drop Sir Rodney a line now and give him your contact details (I will let you send them via pm of course) and say that you will be taking my position on the board. If I remember rightly, Companies House will need your full name and address, any other current Directorships you hold, your mothers maiden name, the colour of your eyes (as security checks) and a telephone number.

Bugger me, minutes... nah, we don't take em mate. We are badass and as a private limited trust registered as a charity, with the charity commission, we just ignore this legal charity requirement crap and do what we like!

Guys I can see why it winds you up but don't get drawn in.
The vast majority of supporters know exactly how much work you are putting in and are very grateful.

It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of do or don't do. I'm not doing so I wait to see what you guys come up with.
I don't know any of you but I'm glad you are involved.

Which particular part about the football club is he right about?

Amongst other things, I'm a criminal lawyer by profession. This often involves negotiating compromises (you might call them plea bargains), and sometimes an agreement can't be reached. On the very few occasions a fellow lawyer has tried to represent to a court that my negotiating position reflected my actual position, when an agreement hadn't been reached (i.e., he said he'd settle for x, but I won't, I want y, but you can see that x is what he really thinks), then I know never to negotiate with that lawyer again.

It's not the best analogy maybe, but it explains why things must be kept secret. If I represented Yorkcourt and the contents of meetings were spilled over the internet, there would never be another meeting. End of.

I'm frustrated with the way the supporters have been seemingly shafted, looking in from the outside, and if Yorkcourt do the ultimate dirty, I can't see us ever being anything other than a small club playing out of a past-it stadium. I have to say, however, that I'm happy that those who are trying hard to get the best out of it are doing just that, trying hard. The best we can get might not be what we expected at the start, but that's how the dice have rolled. There are times when you've got to shake hands with the devil.

holy mother of god.... you really are as stupid as you seem...

I would never have thought that to be possible.

Your idiocy has the potential to do far more damage to the club than the total damage done by owners of the club throughout its history!

We are the biggest City without a professional league football club.
You have to go a long way down the list of cities in England before you find one not in the top 4 leagues and even further for conference.

It's not a problem to me, just saying.

I'm a little bit confused here. As most will know from my previous posts I am 100% behind TRB and the trust. The thing that no one else seems to have picked up on about this meeting is Sir Rodney's statement. Am I imagining things or did he say he hoped some thing would be resolved one way or the other at this meeting. Apologies in advance if I am wrong and once again I hope it ends in a positive outcome.

Yes it's one of those questions that I've looked up before and get different answers because of the difference between the urban population figure of 77k (2001) and the District of 326k (2011). If we just count the City District, no one comes close like you say, especially unlike other Cities/Towns not only we don't have a Pro team, we don't even have a lower Division side now.

There's places like Lincoln who have a team but in the fifth tier of English football who have pop of 96k apparently. I've also heard people say Gateshead which is a Town of around 78k and also have a team in fifth tier and Poole which is probably the biggest Town that doesn't have a Pro Football team only a seventh tier semi Pro side, that Borough has a pop of 155k.

I would imagine 'he hoped' says it all, they all hoped York Court would be doing something decisive this time but ended up with IF this happens, this COULD happen and so on to infinity!!! I.E no straight answers to what happens now..

Don't understand why anyone continues to contribute positive or even neutral info or speculation to these threads? The topic is just Troll fodder and is so predictable it's hard to believe that supposedely intelligent people with the best intent and interest of the club continue to open the door.
Why not lock this and start one sometime in the future headed "1st brick being laid" or "Wildcats begin Belle Vue Upgrade".