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| Ten out and four in was a clear signal of intent for this season.
Perhaps a new coach would sideline the wasters currently on holiday extracting the urine. If they can’t be paid off, set them aside or loan swap them. Maybe they are having an effect on morale? We don’t know, actually as stated, we don’t know anything as the club is in a non communicative mode and has been a while.
Sticking plaster management doesn’t work.
A morale booster is often a catalyst for improvement. Any suggestions welcome, just in case anyone reads this.
Deregister one and bring DF back for six games. Ok, I’m dreaming, perhaps I’ve been in the shower two years.
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| Quote ="Manuel"Ten out and four in was a clear signal of intent for this season.
Perhaps a new coach would sideline the wasters currently on holiday extracting the urine. If they can’t be paid off, set them aside or loan swap them. Maybe they are having an effect on morale? We don’t know, actually as stated, we don’t know anything as the club is in a non communicative mode and has been a while.
Sticking plaster management doesn’t work.
A morale booster is often a catalyst for improvement. Any suggestions welcome, just in case anyone reads this.
Deregister one and bring DF back for six games. Ok, I’m dreaming, perhaps I’ve been in the shower two years.'"
As you say you don't know any of those things.
When Minnards did the Shareholder meeting he and Mash both said Proctor was a good influence on the team.
You can't just deregister a player. They have contracts. Unless you are offering to pay them off.
You constantly say they don't do anything except sticking plasters, but that in itself is doing something. The loan deals have allowed unfit players to get fitter without playing them and gave us an opportunity to see if we could improve with other players.
The stand off didn't win us the game but I think he might if we can keep him longer.
I don't see a suggestion of new coach either. Cas have shown there's no super coach saviour out there.
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| Good attempt at defence. So you actually think things are working because we keep loaning people. Mason and the Wigan hooker worked well didn’t it. I didn’t suggest not paying, I’m not that thick thanks. I said deregister.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"So we have no money, just how much money don't we have. Carter's done a marvellous job on brainwashing the supporters and getting them to constantly spill the same skint message.
So I ask again just how much money don't we have. If you remember our recruitment was going to take shape because it was a world Cup and plenty of quality players would be available.'"
He's not brainwashed me I've seen through this charade since the beginning, the toy is now no use
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| I must have been brainwashed with the logic that low crowd numbers, less Sky money, spiralling inflation and increase in expense mean less money.
Are you thinking he's sat on a pile of gold in his office or something?
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| Try being a Leigh fan for 60 years. Only 3 seasons in Superleague and relegated each time, with only couple of short periods of success in the early 70’s and 80’s.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"He's not brainwashed everyone, and certainly not me.'"
I would be thinking I’d been stitched up if I had bought a signature on the steel beam.
Willie must have been given an indication he was going to get the spend back in his kitty from players that left, only to find that is not the case.
Corporate negligence.
What did Sid Vicious say? “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"I would be thinking I’d been stitched up if I had bought a signature on the steel beam.
Willie must have been given an indication he was going to get the spend back in his kitty from players that left, only to find that is not the case.
Corporate negligence.
What did Sid Vicious say? “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”'"
I signed the girder and don't feel stitched up.
Hope that puts your mind at ease.
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| Quote ="PopTart"As you say you don't know any of those things.
When Minnards did the Shareholder meeting he and Mash both said Proctor was a good influence on the team.
You can't just deregister a player. They have contracts. Unless you are offering to pay them off.
You constantly say they don't do anything except sticking plasters, but that in itself is doing something. The loan deals have allowed unfit players to get fitter without playing them and gave us an opportunity to see if we could improve with other players.
The stand off didn't win us the game but I think he might if we can keep him longer.
I don't see a suggestion of new coach either. Cas have shown there's no super coach saviour out there.'"
PT. Please. Did you think that they would actually say that Proctor was a bad influence on the team?
They have to keep up appearances. Truth is Proctor is turning out to be a PR nightmare. He really is.
What does leadership look like to you? 15 minute stints then doubled over shattered?
Travel Overseas when not playing.
When injured, stand on the sideline playing with your phone instead of taking an interest in the team?
Indefensible.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"I would be thinking I’d been stitched up if I had bought a signature on the steel beam.
Willie must have been given an indication he was going to get the spend back in his kitty from players that left, only to find that is not the case.
Corporate negligence.
What did Sid Vicious say? “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”'" johnny rotten did
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"PT. Please. Did you think that they would actually say that Proctor was a bad influence on the team?
They have to keep up appearances. Truth is Proctor is turning out to be a PR nightmare. He really is.
What does leadership look like to you? 15 minute stints then doubled over shattered?
Travel Overseas when not playing.
When injured, stand on the sideline playing with your phone instead of taking an interest in the team?
Indefensible.'"
Ah silly me. I didn't realise it was a conspiracy to hide the truth.
They didn't say he was playing well. They admitted he wasn't fit. And he did more minutes against Wigan than any other forward.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ah silly me. I didn't realise it was a conspiracy to hide the truth.
They didn't say he was playing well. They admitted he wasn't fit. And he did more minutes against Wigan than any other forward.'"
I am not sure a few days in Majorca would do much for their fitness.
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| Wearing blinkers is hiding a wider view for some, I know everyone wants the best but this is not the way
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am not sure a few days in Majorca would do much for their fitness.'"
So personally I agree. In terms of where we are and what we need to improve, I personally would be on the training field
But given this is clearly a stressful time for everyone, teams often give players a couple of days break to recharge, especially when they miss a weekend.
It's not exactly a new thing.
I'm sure others are doing the same, but putting it on social media probably isn't wise.
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| Some very good measured points on our current predicament unlike the facebook groups , that can and have turned sour and nasty at times . We’ve all come up with how we have got into this situation , that’s the easy bit really . The much harder bit is getting us out of this hole we have dug ourselves into , without a substantial backer behind us . Boot him out sounds the perfect solution, indeed he’s stepping down anyway at the season end , so that sorts that out , but the last thing I want my club to do is to go into free fall, and that’s what I fear if we can’t get the right people on board moving forwards . I hold no fear of dropping down , In fact it could be a great time to re-set our values and aspirations and watching a team hopefully being competitive will be a welcome change . Our Problems are easy to see ,but not so easy to fix
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Some very good measured points on our current predicament unlike the facebook groups , that can and have turned sour and nasty at times . We’ve all come up with how we have got into this situation , that’s the easy bit really . The much harder bit is getting us out of this hole we have dug ourselves into , without a substantial backer behind us . Boot him out sounds the perfect solution, indeed he’s stepping down anyway at the season end , so that sorts that out , but the last thing I want my club to do is to go into free fall, and that’s what I fear if we can’t get the right people on board moving forwards . I hold no fear of dropping down , In fact it could be a great time to re-set our values and aspirations and watching a team hopefully being competitive will be a welcome change . Our Problems are easy to see ,but not so easy to fix'"
Is he definitely going at the end of the year, I've heard he's planning on hanging around a bit longer. I sincerely hope not.
Provided that a new investor comes in, and although it would hurt us, I'm not as concerned as some. Current super league sides that are doing better than us, have been relegated and come back, some more than once.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Is he definitely going at the end of the year, I've heard he's planning on ganging around a bit longer. I sincerely hope not.
Provided that a new investor comes in, and although it would hurt us, I'm not as concerned as some. Current super league sides that are doing better than us, have been relegated and come back, some more than once.'"
He isn't leaving the club. He's leaving the role of CEO.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He isn't leaving the club. He's leaving the role of CEO.'"
I've heard differently, but there you go.
What will he be doing exactly. Hope nowhere near any decision making
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| I hope Mr Carter does stay on in the background trying to keep the bank account in the black.He came out and said he leaves the running of the team to the coaches.The big problem as been they have trusted the coaches to much ,and since J K left we have gone down hill fast. Also the amount of times the fans were telling the club not to sign the players that have dragged the club down to the Championship shows how blinked the board have been You do not have to be a coach to no that S L is about speed and been fit ,and over the last four year the coaches have got rid of it ,and brought in players in postions we had no need to fill
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| Quote ="alegend"I hope Mr Carter does stay on in the background trying to keep the bank account in the black.He came out and said he leaves the running of the team to the coaches.The big problem as been they have trusted the coaches to much ,and since J K left we have gone down hill fast. Also the amount of times the fans were telling the club not to sign the players that have dragged the club down to the Championship shows how blinked the board have been You do not have to be a coach to no that S L is about speed and been fit ,and over the last four year the coaches have got rid of it ,and brought in players in postions we had no need to fill'"
regarding where we have gone wrong with recruitment I totally agree. Who has made those calls,I totally disagree.
There is one common denominator throughout all this and it's not our various coaches,
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am not sure a few days in Majorca would do much for their fitness.'"
So much for every one being on holiday, it would appear tomorrow is a training day.
Good afternoon. Message for those attending the luncheon club tomorrow. Parking is restricted due to the players being in for training. The 4 disabled spaces are still available in front of the club house otherwise could everyone else try and park nearer to the main road or there are spaces available down the side of the club house round the back Thank-you
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| Are you going Dunk?
Are you going to count them in for us so we know if Atoni, Lino and Proctor made it back on time?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Are you going Dunk
Are you going to count them in for us so we know if Atoni, Lino and Proctor made it back on time?
I’ll be too busy tucking into the fish & chips lunch to be counting who’s on the training ground, I tend to worry more when I see the match day squad announcement
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| Quote ="alegend"I hope Mr Carter does stay on in the background trying to keep the bank account in the black.He came out and said he leaves the running of the team to the coaches.The big problem as been they have trusted the coaches to much ,and since J K left we have gone down hill fast. Also the amount of times the fans were telling the club not to sign the players that have dragged the club down to the Championship shows how blinked the board have been You do not have to be a coach to no that S L is about speed and been fit ,and over the last four year the coaches have got rid of it ,and brought in players in postions we had no need to fill'" at times I feel fans are walking around with blinkers on, the current predicament were in at the moment is down to one person only, the messiah. We are 4 million pounds in debt, we have no money by the look of things to sign players, we now have the poorest squad we've had In super league with little sign of anything getting better including the performances, we look as though barring a miracle we will finish bottom and go down. We've signed over the hill players and let match winners go and our own local talent. Oh and before anyone comes back with he saved the club it was years ago and this is now and we're starring down the barrel. Tje quickly Carter departs the better and totally departs, I simply don't believe a word he says.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"at times I feel fans are walking around with blinkers on, the current predicament were in at the moment is down to one person only, the messiah. We are 4 million pounds in debt, we have no money by the look of things to sign players, we now have the poorest squad we've had In super league with little sign of anything getting better including the performances, we look as though barring a miracle we will finish bottom and go down. We've signed over the hill players and let match winners go and our own local talent. Oh and before anyone comes back with he saved the club it was years ago and this is now and we're starring down the barrel. Tje quickly Carter departs the better and totally departs, I simply don't believe a word he says.'"
You forget the asset we now have to go with that debt.
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