Re point 4, it was in the final, Warrington not given the try as a consequence of what the referee thought he saw. But your point still stands.

Well then, would we have won that game if it had been a televised match ?
We shall never know , but from what I have seen its a fair assumption that three of the Wigan trys would have been disallowed and probably one of ours. However, lets not forget the video ref can only be used if the on field official makes the call. Do you think Mr M would have done that today, I would not bank on it.

Some atrocious decisions...the one to penalise Miller when Sarginson lashed out after being smashed by Tanginoa was ridiculous...the Marshall tap was a real gamebreaker for me though, put them 6 clear that we couldn’t peg back. The annoying thing is he was heading straight for the mark but saw a huge gap so at the last second changed direction and tapped from the wrong place...Randell was positioned perfectly to make the tackle if he’d tapped from the right spot.

I also saw him put both hands in the air signaling to stop the clock when we were dropping out...did he forget there’s now a countdown clock? By the letter of the law he should have sin binned Hampshire too for throwing the ball at their player...pedantic I know but he saw it and called him out for it so should have carded him as I’ve see players binned for that before...there’s just no consistency...

If it’s right what they say though about decisions evening themselves out...we must be owed from bad decisions this week and Warrington were on the end of a few calls go their way in the cup final so we should get the rub of the green Friday! Thinks it’s time we were given Thaler...

Think we had our token Thaler game early in the season, so probably due again sometime around 2022. However if we are to have him ,would prefer the week after against London

The ball was knocked on into Sarginson and then it bounced back towards our try line, so only one knock on and that was by Wakefield.

Nice one Scott Mikalauskus

It was right at the side of the touch judge and he never mentioned it to me!

Didn’t realise how fast Randall was tracking back and almost catching Marshall when doing his now infamous tap and go, didn’t make much difference in the outcome but showed great commitment from the guy .

Yes...when you compare Randell’s effort to that of Escare for Marshall’s first try you have to wonder whether Escare really is as quick as he’s made out to be or whether he couldn’t be bothered with the chase because he was left for dead and disappeared out of the picture?

So was the punch on Miller, who was penalised for allowing himself to be hit

Who's paying for this? I'm amazed none of you have mentioned Tangata for the Marshall 20m restart try. He's in a fine position to make a tackle, then none of us would be talking about it. Instead of making the tackle he opts to ignore Marshall running towards him and complain to the ref instead. Playing to the whistle is u12s stuff.

I agree it's shouldn't have been awarded by the way, and that the first try was a knock on by Sarginson. However, the BJB one wasn't grounded and I don't see a double movement in the Powell one. The pass looks OK for your other try IMO. So we had two incorrect tries, you had one. Purely looking at points we therefore win 12-10, but I appreciate the 'different game if that doesn't happen' argument, particularly as our two incorrect tries were from long range.

The tap call was massively infuriating.
We see the tap have to be re taken in just about every game of the season and he wasn't even close to the mark.
He took a chance and got away with it but, it's an absolute howler by the ref.

U12s clubs usually install good fair play ethics as a discipline and junior refs and players will know where a restart will be taken from according to the rules of the game.

Up the Trin

IMO...at the game and looking from the Northstand, the gap Marshall went through looked wider than it does on that camera angle from the highlights and don’t think Tangata was close enough to lay a hand on as it happened so quickly...you’ve a forward trying to get back into position against a winger on the run who changes direction at the last second when he spots the gap!

Why can’t we have video ref at every game? How much do you think this would cost in this day and age, seriously?

BJB looked to get it down to me from the trinity tv footage from behind the goal...on the sky sports highlights and at the game looking from behind I didn’t think it was a try but looks fine from the other footage from behind the sticks...

Same with Powell’s...looks ok from behind on sky sports highlights but at the game in the Northstand it looked the most blatant double movement you will ever see?

Can anyone say where the referee should stand at a restart. Not sure myself but surely not directly opposite where the play should take place. So if Mr M got that part correct and stood 6, 7, 8 metre from the centre then that makes it ideal for Marshall to run straight at the referee.

Video ref at every game should have been from the very inception of super league. Another inconsistency and another contribution to there not being a level playing field.

Video ref - it's done from a van outside, you'll need more vans, whatever equipment goes into them, possibly more big screens? Not sure if they move from stadium to stadium or not. You then need more of whatever equipment allows the ref to communicate with the video ref, engineer on standby to set it up and quickly fix it midgame if it breaks, more cameras, people to operate them, people to show the video ref the footage he needs at the speed he needs it, all under time pressure. You also then more top level referees to act as video ref, be paid to officiate, mileage etc. I don't know how much that all costs but do know it won't be insignificant and the RFL is skint as it is.

12 12 mate jones try wasnt converted

Remove the quick tap and make it a PTB at the centre spot.

If the refs can't keep up with the speed of play, then it needs to be slowed down

Having watched the SL show, I'd say
First Wigan try dubious. Need full angles to be sure. Probably a try
Ditto Batchelor try
Wigan tap restart and BJB definitely no tries.
In fact the last two are scandalous decisions and ref needs a sound chat at HQ.
For the tap he runs at the ref. How on earth did he let that go? Staggering decision.
But we only have ourselves to blame. All three tries the result of errors. All in a game we matched Wigan every step of the way in.

Are you suggesting that no Wakefield player has ever tried to take a tap off the mark? Or no one at under 12's level? Not quite sure of your point here.

Absolute howler by the ref btw. Not the first and won't be the last.

Having watched the SL show, I'd say
First Wigan try dubious. Need full angles to be sure. Probably a try
Ditto Batchelor try
Wigan tap restart and BJB definitely no tries.
In fact the last two are scandalous decisions and ref needs a sound chat at HQ.
For the tap he runs at the ref. How on earth did he let that go? Staggering decision.
But we only have ourselves to blame. All three tries the result of errors. All in a game we matched Wigan every step of the way in.

I was in the flats so had a different angle and the first Wigan try certainly looked like a knock on. I'd have to watch it again on Trin TV though but it certainly looks different than the official TV highlights angle.

We thought the BJB try wasn't yet after watching the highlights you can see the in touch official and the linesmen were both very close with good views, so you could say it was the decision of 3 officials that it was a try. If it was a televised match then I guess we'd really know.

The tap 20 though is no dispute, one of the worst errors by a ref I've ever seen in over 30 years of watching the sport. Inexcusable.

Well, being dropped to championship to ref for one week really rectifies that situation, "wheeell" - still I suppose I will have to abide by the Ganson rule, & respect he was right !
Get over it until next time ( like next 2 weeks ) sorry about the sarcasm, I feel better now !

3rd in the table behind, Bradford player tackled 2 yds short and try awarded, and first Hanley dropping the ball behind the posts and try given.