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| Indeed they don't, a touch of the mixed metaphors
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I have discussed this incident with the most impeccable of sources. From what I was told, he gave out the loan knowing full well it would be paid. It was underwritten by the RFL and monthly instalments were deducted from the subsequent SL payments in order to repay him. The figures I were told also suggest he also got substantial interest on the loan and came out financially on top.
I am only reiterating what I have been told by people in good faith. However it suggests that this gesture by Walker benefited him the most.'"
A strange scenario if true. Why didn't the RFL loan WT the money at more favourable terms rather than allowing money to haemorrhage from the game by allowing walker to act as intermediary?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"A strange scenario if true. Why didn't the RFL loan WT the money at more favourable terms rather than allowing money to haemorrhage from the game by allowing walker to act as intermediary?'" might not of trusted the owner at the time
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| Do you know some people are never what they seem. They are able to build a false image of themselves which is quick to impress and can last years before people start to realise otherwise. Typical example is the football scam of Kaisor, well worth a read.
For instance you can give yourself a certain type name or job description which at first glance sounds grand and can open doors by people who are easily impressed and don't look to deep, Once this happens you can continue to add other bits to reinforce this perception and eventually build up an highly impressive profile.
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| Wakefield Civic Society,object.
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Quote ="Joe Banjo"Wakefield Civic Society,object.'"
https://www.wakefieldcivicsociety.org.uk/what-we-do
What We Do
The Society's main concern is with the public realm and particularly the built environment.
Our aims as a charity are:
(a) To encourage high standards of architecture and town planning in Wakefield and district.
(b) To stimulate public interest in and care for the beauty, history and character of the City and its surroundings.
(c) To encourage the preservation, development and improvement of features of general public amenity or historic interest.
(d) To pursue these ends by means of meetings, exhibitions, lectures, publications, other forms of instruction and publicity, and promotion of schemes of a charitable nature.
=#FF0000To deliver these aims, we regularly review planning applications made to the Council and make comments or raise objections to planned developments where we feel that the proposals do not represent the best interests of Wakefield.
In 2008, concerned about proposals (now abandoned) to build a sports stadium in Thornes Park, we held a public meeting and called for volunteers to establish a new community group to work with the council and other stakeholders to improve and protect the three parks - Clarence Park, Homfield Park and Thornes Park. This led to the creation of The Friends of CHaT Parks, an independent group group run by volunteers who care about these parks.
https://chatparks.org.uk/
but is happy to promote the athletics stadium
https://chatparks.org.uk/topics/visitor-attractions/
well that's nice of them does it say what they are object to
Kevin Trickett seems to be a name at the top running the website
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Quote ="Joe Banjo"Wakefield Civic Society,object.'"
https://www.wakefieldcivicsociety.org.uk/what-we-do
What We Do
The Society's main concern is with the public realm and particularly the built environment.
Our aims as a charity are:
(a) To encourage high standards of architecture and town planning in Wakefield and district.
(b) To stimulate public interest in and care for the beauty, history and character of the City and its surroundings.
(c) To encourage the preservation, development and improvement of features of general public amenity or historic interest.
(d) To pursue these ends by means of meetings, exhibitions, lectures, publications, other forms of instruction and publicity, and promotion of schemes of a charitable nature.
=#FF0000To deliver these aims, we regularly review planning applications made to the Council and make comments or raise objections to planned developments where we feel that the proposals do not represent the best interests of Wakefield.
In 2008, concerned about proposals (now abandoned) to build a sports stadium in Thornes Park, we held a public meeting and called for volunteers to establish a new community group to work with the council and other stakeholders to improve and protect the three parks - Clarence Park, Homfield Park and Thornes Park. This led to the creation of The Friends of CHaT Parks, an independent group group run by volunteers who care about these parks.
https://chatparks.org.uk/
but is happy to promote the athletics stadium
https://chatparks.org.uk/topics/visitor-attractions/
well that's nice of them does it say what they are object to
Kevin Trickett seems to be a name at the top running the website
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Quote ="snowie"https://www.wakefieldcivicsociety.org.uk/what-we-do
What We Do
The Society's main concern is with the public realm and particularly the built environment.
Our aims as a charity are:
(a) To encourage high standards of architecture and town planning in Wakefield and district.
(b) To stimulate public interest in and care for the beauty, history and character of the City and its surroundings.
(c) To encourage the preservation, development and improvement of features of general public amenity or historic interest.
(d) To pursue these ends by means of meetings, exhibitions, lectures, publications, other forms of instruction and publicity, and promotion of schemes of a charitable nature.
=#FF0000To deliver these aims, we regularly review planning applications made to the Council and make comments or raise objections to planned developments where we feel that the proposals do not represent the best interests of Wakefield.
In 2008, concerned about proposals (now abandoned) to build a sports stadium in Thornes Park, we held a public meeting and called for volunteers to establish a new community group to work with the council and other stakeholders to improve and protect the three parks - Clarence Park, Homfield Park and Thornes Park. This led to the creation of The Friends of CHaT Parks, an independent group group run by volunteers who care about these parks.
https://chatparks.org.uk/
but is happy to promote the athletics stadium
https://chatparks.org.uk/topics/visitor-attractions/
well that's nice of them does it say what they are object to
Kevin Trickett seems to be a name at the top running the website'"
This is the comments by WCS:
'I am writing to add our weight to the objections that have already been submitted in response to this application. Given the history of the site, and the promises that were made about the provision of a community stadium (which were used to justify encroachment into the Green Belt), we feel that no further development should be permitted until the proposed stadium has been provided. In our view, the current application runs counter to the spirit of the outline permission that was granted by the then Secretary of State in 2012 under planning application reference 10/00225/OUT after the earlier application was called in'
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Quote ="snowie"https://www.wakefieldcivicsociety.org.uk/what-we-do
What We Do
The Society's main concern is with the public realm and particularly the built environment.
Our aims as a charity are:
(a) To encourage high standards of architecture and town planning in Wakefield and district.
(b) To stimulate public interest in and care for the beauty, history and character of the City and its surroundings.
(c) To encourage the preservation, development and improvement of features of general public amenity or historic interest.
(d) To pursue these ends by means of meetings, exhibitions, lectures, publications, other forms of instruction and publicity, and promotion of schemes of a charitable nature.
=#FF0000To deliver these aims, we regularly review planning applications made to the Council and make comments or raise objections to planned developments where we feel that the proposals do not represent the best interests of Wakefield.
In 2008, concerned about proposals (now abandoned) to build a sports stadium in Thornes Park, we held a public meeting and called for volunteers to establish a new community group to work with the council and other stakeholders to improve and protect the three parks - Clarence Park, Homfield Park and Thornes Park. This led to the creation of The Friends of CHaT Parks, an independent group group run by volunteers who care about these parks.
https://chatparks.org.uk/
but is happy to promote the athletics stadium
https://chatparks.org.uk/topics/visitor-attractions/
well that's nice of them does it say what they are object to
Kevin Trickett seems to be a name at the top running the website'"
This is the comments by WCS:
'I am writing to add our weight to the objections that have already been submitted in response to this application. Given the history of the site, and the promises that were made about the provision of a community stadium (which were used to justify encroachment into the Green Belt), we feel that no further development should be permitted until the proposed stadium has been provided. In our view, the current application runs counter to the spirit of the outline permission that was granted by the then Secretary of State in 2012 under planning application reference 10/00225/OUT after the earlier application was called in'
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| Quote ="snowie"Kevin Trickett seems to be a name at the top running the website'"
I spoke to Kevin Trickett at a WCS exhibition on one of the Wakefield Artwalk evenings, seems a decent bloke. He showed nothing but disdain for Peter Box and Wakefield Council, referred to them as 'this bloody lot'.
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| How many members have WCS?
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| Quote ="Joe Banjo"How many members have WCS?'"
According to [urlhttp://www.civicvoice.org.uk/societies/wakefield-civic-society/[/url
Individual Members: 193
Life members: 19
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| Thanks ksc,that means another 200 hundred objections.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I spoke to Kevin Trickett at a WCS exhibition on one of the Wakefield Artwalk evenings, seems a decent bloke. He showed nothing but disdain for Peter Box and Wakefield Council, referred to them as 'this bloody lot'.'" its a good that we have their support, I'd never heard of the group until now
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| Quote ="Joe Banjo"Thanks ksc,that means another 200 hundred objections.'"
Whilst I admire your optimism, I think you'll find it only counts as one objection.
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| maybe all the members of the WCS will object.
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| Anyone see Box's answer to Clr Ahmed's question regarding on going talks about the stadium? Could have wrote his answer on the back of a fag packet it was that laughably brief, and was even submitted to Box before hand by the sounds.
When pressed for more details Box comes back quite arrogantly then persists to put Clr Ahmed down with some unnecessary comments. In the very brief response he did say there were on going talks with Yorkcourt, owners of belle Vue (Manni) and 'other interested parties' but no mention specifically of the club....
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| Quote ="Jizzer"Anyone see Box's answer to Clr Ahmed's question regarding on going talks about the stadium? Could have wrote his answer on the back of a fag packet it was that laughably brief, and was even submitted to Box before hand by the sounds.
When pressed for more details Box comes back quite arrogantly then persists to put Clr Ahmed down with some unnecessary comments. In the very brief response he did say there were on going talks with Yorkcourt, owners of belle Vue (Manni) and 'other interested parties' but no mention specifically of the club....'"
Unfortunately, this has been Box's stock answer for the past few council meetings and that doesn't look like changing anytime soon. He also makes a comment to Clr Ahmed that you wouldn't expect business negotiations to be made public, no i wouldnt, but it would be nice to know what your plans are and provide some proof that the negotiations are actually taking place!
I must agree that the way that Box speaks to the his opposition is quite uncomfortable to witness, he clearly attempts to belittle, humiliate and attack them at the earliest opportunity. Sadly there is no fight back.
Can i ask the a question of the Trust, are we just waiting for the legal advice to be finalised before starting legal proceedings? Or is there another step before that?
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| Funding it?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Funding it?'"
Not your problem is it, but if you want to help and aren't just trolling then details will become available when the time is right.
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| Quote ="Droopy"Unfortunately, this has been Box's stock answer for the past few council meetings and that doesn't look like changing anytime soon. He also makes a comment to Clr Ahmed that you wouldn't expect business negotiations to be made public, no i wouldnt, but it would be nice to know what your plans are and provide some proof that the negotiations are actually taking place!
I must agree that the way that Box speaks to the his opposition is quite uncomfortable to witness, he clearly attempts to belittle, humiliate and attack them at the earliest opportunity. Sadly there is no fight back.
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Yep, more smoke and mirrors with the 'no business negotiations are made in public etc' line. I suspect at the same time he's being careful with his words with a potential court case on the line, and it was likely no mistake him not mentioning specifically that he was still working with 'the club' - just Yorkcourt, Manni and 'people concerned'.
The mans attitude stinks, and it's not the first time we've seen him act this way in public (again, towards Clr Ahmed) when poised with the same question a few years ago. Either the actions of an arrogant individual or a man on the defensive - or both!
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| Quote ="Droopy"
I must agree that the way that Box speaks to the his opposition is quite uncomfortable to witness, he clearly attempts to belittle, humiliate and attack them at the earliest opportunity. Sadly there is no fight back.'"
And yet I think he is a very poor orator!I think anyone who is used to public speaking would soon put Box the bully in his place.
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| Quote ="Droopy"
I must agree that the way that Box speaks to the his opposition is quite uncomfortable to witness, he clearly attempts to belittle, humiliate and attack them at the earliest opportunity. Sadly there is no fight back.
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This really is a problem, I mean Box is just doing what he always does, deflect answering the question in any meaningful detail by attacking the individual asking it.
With such a weak representation, there will be little pressure on Box explain his actions more pertinently.
It is a bullying tactic, but he is being allowed to do it, that's the fault of the representation, Box will be Box for as long as the opposition allow it.
There is also the thought that maybe the opposition just isn't that bothered or that they have some kind of "understanding"
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| Maybe he has been taking lessons from Donald Trump !
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| Any update on the proposed public meeting Oct/November?
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| zzzz!!!! another year has passed and still duck egg on new stadium.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Any update on the proposed public meeting Oct/November?'"
We are hoping to have something fixed up soon for late November.
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