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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"the players should have a free reign to express themselves'"
And out of interest - how does that manifest itself on a RL pitch?
Are you suggesting that we have a whole range of unusual, arcane strategies and techniques up our sleeves, that are usually suppressed and forbidden, due to needing to actually win a match?
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| Quote ="bren2k"And out of interest - how does that manifest itself on a RL pitch?
Are you suggesting that we have a whole range of unusual, arcane strategies and techniques up our sleeves, that are usually suppressed and forbidden, due to needing to actually win a match?'"
I'm not suggesting anything other than the players shouldn't be playing tonight with the fear of losing because that's what everyone expects them to do.
On the strategies i think it's called a 'game plan'.
Or 'game management'.
So Yeah, it does manifest itself onto the pitch.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"I'm not suggesting anything other than the players shouldn't be playing tonight with the fear of losing because that's what everyone expects them to do.
On the strategies i think it's called a 'game plan'.
Or 'game management'.
So Yeah, it does manifest itself onto the pitch.'"
Ok - see to me, expressing oneself is kind of the opposite to a strategy or a game plan; it's what happens when say, Rangi Chase runs up his own ar5e and does a reverse pass to himself, or BJB snatches a pass from mid-air and runs the length of the pitch. But I don't see how a coach could send a team out with the game plan - "just express yourself lads." That's not a plan.
Anyhow - I think we'll lose comfortably to Saints, and there'll be no shame in that - they're miles ahead of every other team in SL right now; so on that point we agree - they shouldn't fear it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"We'll get spanked in this game - and it won't be Finn's fault; I'd like that on the record before the boo-boys get started.'"
I think we'll watch the game before we start blaming anyone.
Anyway, if it ends up Finn's fault it will really be Chester's. It's more likely to be Richardson's, Roby's, Barba's or Child's fault though.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Ok - see to me, expressing oneself is kind of the opposite to a strategy or a game plan; it's what happens when say, Rangi Chase runs up his own ar5e and does a reverse pass to himself, or BJB snatches a pass from mid-air and runs the length of the pitch. But I don't see how a coach could send a team out with the game plan - "just express yourself lads." That's not a plan.
Anyhow - I think we'll lose comfortably to Saints, and there'll be no shame in that - they're miles ahead of every other team in SL right now; so on that point we agree - they shouldn't fear it.'"
We may get beaten tonight but, I dont think "comfortably".
It will be interesting to see how the Saints' England contingent have coped with their trip to Denver, especially Roby and if we can prevent Barba from attacking in broken play, we may even cause another upset.
Trinity are in better form than they were in April and our pack should be a match for theirs.
Looking forward to the game.
Come on Trin !
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"if we can prevent Barba from attacking in broken play'"
If we do, we should copyright it and sell it to other coaches - because no one has quite mastered it yet - although Leeds made a decent fist of it; fat lot of good it did them like!
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| Quote ="bren2k"If we do, we should copyright it and sell it to other coaches - because no one has quite mastered it yet - although Leeds made a decent fist of it; fat lot of good it did them like!'"
I would guess the first rule would be don't put the ball down his throat on last play kicks?
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| Quote ="bren2k"If we do, we should copyright it and sell it to other coaches - because no one has quite mastered it yet - although Leeds made a decent fist of it; fat lot of good it did them like!'"
In the 2 games Barba has played against us he hasn't done anything. Maybe Chester knows how to deal with him already???
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I would guess the first rule would be don't put the ball down his throat on last play kicks?'"
I would agree - Leeds ended a lot of their sets in a very pedestrian way, but it took away one of Barba's main weapons and made them do a structured restart, which has to be easier to defend than Barba running through everyone like he has spiders on him.
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| IMO another game where we will be close enough but come away with nothing.
32-24 St Helens
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| Quote ="wildshot"In the 2 games Barba has played against us he hasn't done anything. Maybe Chester knows how to deal with him already???'"
That's very true
We have dealt very well with him
Let's hope that continues
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Or maybe he wants finny running the show! Like he did when we beat them at our place!'"
People on here have very short memories.
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| Hampshire at full back mcb on bjb wing and Finn in the hallves
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| Jowitt is either injured, rested or dropped. Surely it can't be the last option.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Jowitt is either injured, rested or dropped. Surely it can't be the last option.'"
I would hope not
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| Quote ="Willzay"Jowitt is either injured, rested or dropped. Surely it can't be the last option.'"
Must be injured surely!
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| Injured only reason I can think of.
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| Has anyone else had enough of James child and his bitches making the worst refereeing decisions week in week out?
To make matters worse the joke of a sky sports commentary team brushing incorrect decisions under the carpet
Sick of it!
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| Quote ="Renton"Has anyone else had enough of James child and his bitches making the worst refereeing decisions week in week out?
To make matters worse the joke of a sky sports commentary team brushing incorrect decisions under the carpet
Sick of it!'"
Somebody needs to tell Hemmings that Wakefield Trinity are playing as well. The bloke never gives us any credit. His fawning over everything Saints do is cringeworthy. Pension the silly old sod off.
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| Eddie has said "Wakefield are playing really well"
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| We lost that game ourselves but James Child is a total, utter disgrace.
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| Not happy with two decisions tonight. The kick at Batchelor when he tried to ground the ball was definitely one for the video ref. The Taia try was also one for the video ref. Possible double movement. If I was Chester, I'd be seriously biting my tongue!
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"We lost that game ourselves but James Child is a total, utter disgrace.'"
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Did we!! are you for real - 2 saints tries that never were for Saints - how the hell is that beating yourselves?
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| Waiting for Dr.Doom bren2k to give his analysis of our spanking?
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| Thought you were sensational. The pace you play at is electric. Definitely a dry track team but superb to watch. You'll be there or there abouts for the top 4 because I think you'll go on a right run now.
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