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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's an investment in capital with a definite annual return of at least 10% on your money with the capital still intact.
If the capital is ever cashed in, if we move, you could build a sizeable estate on that plot, with the entrance in and out on Doncaster Road. Agbrigg would be nothing more than the blot on the other side of someone's garden fence.
Or a plot for an out of town store, like a B&Q.
I think £600,000 is a steal.'"
Agree it is a steal. A huge parcel of land walking distance from town. A City where we have a lack of affordable housing already, that is only going to get worse as the years go buy. A property developer if they were thinking long term, could buy it , take our rent in the mean time and even if we don't move out for a decade at worse they would more than get their money back. If we do move they can get all kinds of grants for building cheap housing and make the whole plot a nice modern estate on Belle Vue. They could build something similar to what they did on Calderford's site. The fact that Agbrigg's behind it would have no bearing, the entrance in and out would be Donny Road.
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Yes interesting read. This bit could be a big factor in BOI wanting to off load it cheap and massively put off others from buying it:
'....high level of nic under sections of the terracing, which were uncovered by a development company in 2008, will deter prospective house builders'
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Yes interesting read. This bit could be a big factor in BOI wanting to off load it cheap and massively put off others from buying it:
'....high level of nic under sections of the terracing, which were uncovered by a development company in 2008, will deter prospective house builders'
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| I Think this sounds awesome- if we buy it back that would be the icing on the cake- no more delays but buy it back and in that plan must be the re building of the ground straight away! as soon as we acquire it the re building begins - hopefully end of the season this year- we can ground share for the first half of 2017!! imagine the buzz around wakey the week of the first game at the New Stadium that is still at our spiritual home- I would fly there for that!!!
but don't buy it back and have it sit there for years and years as is!
I know easy said than done but its good to dream!!!!!!
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| It seems like a win/win - buy it back, redevelop it and stay put; or buy it back, then if by some miracle YC ever come up with a new stadium as per their obligation, flog it is a prime parcel of land with pp for a housing estate.
Or - get YC to stump up a sizeable portion of the cost of buying it back, and walk away from the whole Newmarket mess.
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| I know absolutely nothing about construction/development etc, but as I sit looking at the ground from the east stand it always seems to me that number one is a new stand on the west, with all the appropriate refreshment outlets and toilets etc below it.
Then redevelop other areas over as set time scale.
That of course depends on how long the north and east stands can be utilised ie. passing all heath and safety issues.
That would somewhat stifle the incessant derogatory remarks re: the ground from all and sundry.
Be interested to hear of ways forward ,if we were able to buy the ground ,from anyone on here with appropriate expertise.
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| Done a bit of digging here, BV is 5.8 acres and is valued at £600,000 ish. According to Christies who were offering the sale of the Oasis health club and Super Bowl, the total area taken up by these (assuming they're not being sold as going concerns) two sites is 0.8 acres, just how much more would it cost to secure the ground, Super Bowl and Oasis health club?
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| Quote ="BOJ04"I Think this sounds awesome- if we buy it back that would be the icing on the cake- no more delays but buy it back and in that plan must be the re building of the ground straight away! as soon as we acquire it the re building begins - hopefully end of the season this year- we can ground share for the first half of 2017!! imagine the buzz around wakey the week of the first game at the New Stadium that is still at our spiritual home- I would fly there for that!!!
but don't buy it back and have it sit there for years and years as is!
I know easy said than done but its good to dream!!!!!!'"
I like your style! and the money is coming from......?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Done a bit of digging here, BV is 5.8 acres and is valued at £600,000 ish. According to Christies who were offering the sale of the Oasis health club and Super Bowl, the total area taken up by these (assuming they're not being sold as going concerns) two sites is 0.8 acres, just how much more would it cost to secure the ground, Super Bowl and Oasis health club?'"
Last time I checked, the Super Bowl and Oasis were going for close to a million quid; but the Club was a going concern at that point, so will have been priced accordingly. I have no clue what the current status is.
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| This business of not being able to build houses until a new stadium fit for superleague is built in the wakefield area, would the new cas stadium be classed as being in the wakefield area when its built?, hence could our club buy the ground then sell it for housing when the cas ground has been built and we could use the money to build our new ground at Newmarket.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"This business of not being able to build houses until a new stadium fit for superleague is built in the wakefield area, would the new cas stadium be classed as being in the wakefield area when its built?, hence could our club buy the ground then sell it for housing when the cas ground has been built and we could use the money to build our new ground at Newmarket.'"
Not enough value to do that.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"This business of not being able to build houses until a new stadium fit for superleague is built in the wakefield area, would the new cas stadium be classed as being in the wakefield area when its built?, hence could our club buy the ground then sell it for housing when the cas ground has been built and we could use the money to build our new ground at Newmarket.'"
i would have thought it depends on wording in legal documents, whether if its purely within "Wakefield City"boundary or the "Wakefield Metropolitan District Council" area. Castleford as a town is in the WMDC area, is Castleford's new stadium plan WMDC or Wakefield City, i myself think its the WMDC area but i could be wrong. maybe more work for the lawyers.
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| OK so mc buys the ground back ,how much money would be needed to do a full revamp of the ground 4 sides and full size training pitch etc ???
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| Quote ="cosmicat"OK so mc buys the ground back ,how much money would be needed to do a full revamp of the ground 4 sides and full size training pitch etc ???'"
There's nowhere to put a training pitch unless we annex the adjacent cemetery or bulldoze St Catherine's St.
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| Is now the time for SWAG/Stadium trust to reveal the terms of the offer that yorkcourt made previously? Is this offer still on the table? Is there a willingness from yorkcourt to assist with the purchase?
It's all well and good average fans guessing on a forum, but there are some far better placed to give an idea of what is feasible.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Is now the time for SWAG/Stadium trust to reveal the terms of the offer that yorkcourt made previously? Is this offer still on the table? Is there a willingness from yorkcourt to assist with the purchase.
It's all well and good average fans guessing on a forum, but there are some far better placed to give an idea of what is feasible.'"
Unfortunately, while there's much going on at the moment and some important meetings coming up, the talks are at a delicate stage and for reasons of confidentiality they can't say any more even though they'd like to but please trust them that things have moved in a positive direction recently and an update will be forthcoming as soon as they can tell us more.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Is now the time for SWAG/Stadium trust to reveal the terms of the offer that yorkcourt made previously? Is this offer still on the table? Is there a willingness from yorkcourt to assist with the purchase?
It's all well and good average fans guessing on a forum, but there are some far better placed to give an idea of what is feasible.'"
Just be grateful your a cas fan steady it's far less complicated and less stressful, it would be far easier to breech the official secret's act than get a whiff of what's happening here, I'll bet Stalin, Churchill, and Roosavelt didn't have as bigger problem when they carved up Berlin.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Just be grateful your a cas fan steady it's far less complicated and less stressful, it would be far easier to breech the official secret's act than get a whiff of what's happening here, I'll bet Stalin, Churchill, and Roosavelt didn't have as bigger problem when they carved up Berlin.'"
Yes but you can not say its boring being a wakefield fan, we go from one crisis to another always something to talk about just think how boring it must be to be a leeds fan "er we won three trophys last year what can we achieve this year? "duno".
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Yes but you can not say its boring being a wakefield fan, we go from one crisis to another always something to talk about just think how boring it must be to be a leeds fan "er we won three trophys last year what can we achieve this year? "duno".'"
I think it might be easier to win 3 trophies than get any info owt out of whoever is acting on our behalf, and lets not forget how good it would be to shut the gobs of all them fans what think they know more about us than we do ourselves, although they wouldn't have to know much they'd just keep making it up, but the trouble is we couldn't prove em wrong
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| Quote ="chissitt"I think it might be easier to win 3 trophies than get any info owt out of whoever is acting on our behalf, and lets not forget how good it would be to shut the gobs of all them fans what think they know more about us than we do ourselves, although they wouldn't have to know much they'd just keep making it up, but the trouble is we couldn't prove em wrong
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"Just so"
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| I notice on the bbc leeds website new retail park to start on 9 acre site at snow hill, wonder why this site wasn't considered as site for new stadium years ago when the thorns park debacle took place.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"I notice on the bbc leeds website new retail park to start on 9 acre site at snow hill, wonder why this site wasn't considered as site for new stadium years ago when the thorns park debacle took place.'"
Because it doesn't belong to the council?
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| I wonder if Ted will buy the ground back? .... #standwellback...
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| Quote ="chissitt"Just be grateful your a cas fan steady it's far less complicated and less stressful, it would be far easier to breech the official secret's act than get a whiff of what's happening here, I'll bet Stalin, Churchill, and Roosavelt didn't have as bigger problem when they carved up Berlin.'"
Two decent seasons has certainly been enjoyable, but as fans at clubs like ours we know that the longer it goes on then the harder the inevitable fall will be!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"OK so mc buys the ground back ,how much money would be needed to do a full revamp of the ground 4 sides and full size training pitch etc ???'"
Add a few million - 6,8,10?
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