I acually feel sorry for MC, after resurrecting the club as he has done, to be served up with a performance so dire.

Personally I think that to call him gutless is well out of order. Yeah he made a glaring error for a try but he played ok for most of the match. He was nowhere near the worst player on that pitch last night. Seems to me with some people it's becoming personal.

Bradford were the best poor team last night IMO both teams played one out rugby but bradfords pack was stronger and wanted the extra metre more , fom what i saw wakefield thought that all they had to do was turn up and a win was garanteed and from reading on here so did the fans......the best team won and hicks played no part in a woeful display

Except from the fact they both play left wing so will be on the opposite side of the pitch to each other.

It will actually be Carney v Fox

Itll be fox in the headlights when justin carnage aka the beast runs at him

Yep, the fat lump absolutely destroyed Foxy last year - give over.

I don't know the lad so it's certainly not personal. I think he falls into the Karl Price caregory as someone who has the attributes but little of the application. If he had Cockaynes desire and heart he'd be a top class winger, and more than likely not at Trinity. My view wasn't just from his two errors last night but from a whole season of abject performances and a perceived preferential treatment.

Someone pointed out the kick through that a 33 year old Sykes chased through, where the hell was Lyne?

come on vasty, surely the magic weekend rings a bell when he let him score rather than tackle him. and I reckon he's faster over 50m so how fat must fox be!?

Hicks only really got one call wrong. Some of the others were harsh, but the Wakey players kept giving him the opportunity to blow the whistle.

I can't believe how few people on here are taking the conditions into consideration. They were appalling and completely unsuited to your key players. The likes of godinet, mcshane and sammut never stood a chance at getting quick quality ball or scooting from dummy half.
I fancied you all week until I saw how cut up the pitch was before kick off then took the bulls at +11.5. Every silver cloud and all that! You'll look a different side in 4 weeks.

I hardly think Fox was alone in that debacle - do you?

Do you not remember the game at WR when Foxy smashed the lump into touch, just before the lights went out.

As for speed, Foxy has his faults but he's never been slow - did you not see his try last night?

Come on Dave, if and it's still an if for me Carney has come good he's certainly taken his time!

I don't really think you're in a position to gloat player wise just yet, always more fun at the end of the season.

Some truth in that but it's much better to have a gnashing of teeth

20 tries from 21 games last year is a record I'm happy to take, considering a lot of them were from just trampling over opponents - so as for coming good, I'll take him as he is and be pleased you see the potential for improvement



I remember it very well - it was a great tackle and I was as shocked as everyone else, he was in a minority able to do that last year.

As for foxy being quick, I agree



Certainly not gloating - that's not my style as you know full well old chap - I would say that there are a high number of wingers that players would rather line up against than Justin, he's the best winger we've had for 20 years as an overall package (good in the air, returning the ball, finishing etc)

I wouldn't want to tackle him anyway

Players such as Carney once they get into their stride and unstoppable at times. Defences need to be quick to move up on him.

which wakefield did exceptionally well at our place last year.

When we are on top it's players like him that turn the screw and steamroller teams.

Bradford last week kept kicking to him. Doh.

Firstly, TrinityIHC, Brucey baby has been a constant pain in the backside on the Hull forum for ages. He must be about 11 years old mentally, but your putdown is worthy of respect Sir.

Next. I've seen Reece Lyne play loads of times for Hull and he was absolutely appalling every time. Last night he seemed a little better - possibly his extra weight, but he will do more harm than good.

Atleast cas fans had fun

Speaking as a neutral here, my wife is from the London area but I've managed to educate her to appreciate the greatest game. After 15 mins. watching last night she remarked " this is like watching Northern Ford Prem (sic)" I was speechless!

I pointed out that lack of desire for the kick through if Lyne had showed Sykes anticipation and desire to ground that ball on the kick through by Mcshane then with his extra pace there may have been a try. Think it'll be his last season in the red,white and blue and there will be no contract extension....

Lyne signed a 3 year deal I believe 2012/13 season. He played one of his better games get off his back and get behind the lads we wasnt exactly loud last night we was as nervous probably as players.

Not being funny, but why the constant updates, info, post game analysis, player profiles etc.
This is a Wakefield forum, take it to your own forum. Nobody gives a rats what's going on at Cas.

Well thankyou, he is about as irritating as you can get without breaking the AUP.



Bit harsh, think Dave gives a good perspective to this forum, surely we can spare him a few Cas anecdotes every now and again.

See he scored a hatrick today as well. Rate him highly to be fair, just needs to keep his disapline under control.

A considered response.

I have had a good think about last Thursdays match and woke up in a cold sweat a couple of times. Overall it was poor on the field, but I cannot comment on any off field issues as they did not affect me.
There are many who will gladly drag the team down on here, and we all like a moan every now and then, but I have waited a while before typing this as I try to get my head around it.
Playing that poorly in front of the sky cameras in our first home game of the season will have cost the club a lot more than the 2 points. Floating fans and potential sponsors needed convincing that there was life in the team and hope at the end.
We will undoubtedly put up a decent show against Wigan, but will probably fall short (my opinion) as this is the Wakefield way.
We have had worse teams than this and survived (think of the cash strapped teams under Harbin and Kear), however the teams we have had before had fight and spirit and I just don’t see it in this team. They appear to be looking at each other to blame, or to each other to do something rather than take responsibility.
Maybe Kear and Harbin were/are better than Agar at getting that backs to the wall spirit out of the players, or maybe Agar is looking to play our way out of the apparent relegation battle (rather than fight our way as we did before). Whichever is the best method is open to debate, but we don’t have much time and the 4 point games are too crucial to us.
Mulder (from the x-files) had a poster in his office that read “I want to believe”.
I want to believe, but I just cannot see any evidence at the moment

I think taking one of my posts out of context and calling it "constant updates on cas" is a bit of an unfair exaggeration - although granted I sidetacked the thread for half a page - I apologise if that irked you, certainly not my intention.

I shall ensure f I comment in future it is purely about wakefield and in a positive manner, or I shall PM you my potential replies for your perusal and editing?



.....just a tiny little reply to the last poster though - yes he was MOM yesterday and seems to have altered his technique in tackles. Certainly a handful.