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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Ben has removed his tweet.'"
Hopefully that means they've been paid.
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| ridiculous thing to tweet though.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Hopefully that means they've been paid.'"
Or he regretted his tweet!
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| there is no money worries at rovers, we have new investors perhaps that's wishful thinking on Dave@cas's part. as for BC we are currently being linked with a goal kicking winger from elsewhere and as we only need 1 winger perhaps that's why things have gone cold on that front
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| Quote ="dboy"HKR are stalling on the Cockayne contract it seems. The deal is agreed, but no paperwork to sign is being made available.
HKR money worries or unsure on whether they actually want BC??'"
I think Hull KR's previous money issues have been eased considerably in recent times thanks to Mr Allams interest in sticking the boot into Hull FC. He also owns Hull City and and wants the KC and is also no friend of Adam Pearson.
I believe the deal was put 'on hold' by Hull KR so they could incorperate both BC & JP into one and make it cheaper for themselves overall. We are that desperate to take the chance to get Poores' wage off the books we are willing to do the deal this way. More money-shaped holes are appearing all the time by the sounds of things and I imagine the current incumbents are finding the going quite tough.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"ridiculous thing to tweet though.'"
I agree but hes the only one to do it and yet the one making a bit of money from Herbalife also? Who knows it might be HKR?
Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Hopefully that means they've been paid.'"
We probably paid the players who are staying with us next year before the ones who are departing. Not saying this is what happened just a theory of mine.
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| Quote ="sandy"there is no money worries at rovers, perhaps that's wishful thinking on Dave@cas's part. '"
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"plus HKR are rumoured to have financial problems - they might not be able to afford a fee anyway'"
You couldn't be further from the truth.
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| Dave@Trin2013 - Although you say you don't think we can be choosey, I think we have to be exactly that. If we are to let players go that are in my opinion good players, we need to replace with good players, otherwise take the cash and invest in the youth we already have.
If Aiton has to go so be it. Cash it is.
If Cockayne goes, I'm happy with a £30k fee.
If Poore goes he is much harder to replace and we shouldn't be looking for average players to do that. I'd rather go witha weaker front row that is all potential and local than generally average players that will not help us (obviously I'm making a personal judgement on the names being talked about)
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| Some of the rumours of current squad benefits and contract deals need to be cleaned up in my opinion.
The likes of Smith, Mathers and Poore and others seem to get lots of extra benefits that are more than they would get elsewhere.
I'm happy for them to be paid well but cars and flights etc are too much, and they will know that.
I think they ought to be giving something back to Wakefield for this year if they want to stay, or move on and let us balance the books.
I'm not saying they have done anything wrong, and I'm only going on rumours but any other business would work on bonuses for the extras, and not standard contract. And if profits are not coming in, the bonuses should reflect that.
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| Quote ="Mulder"You couldn't be further from the truth.'"
In that case, pay up and move on
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| Quote ="dboy"HKR are stalling on the Cockayne contract it seems. The deal is agreed, but no paperwork to sign is being made available.
HKR money worries or unsure on whether they actually want BC??'"
The cynic in me wonders about a third possibility. if 'we' think you might not make it and he'll become available for free.
I [uhope[/u your club can get everything sorted and that isn't the case, but it's the way of things, I'm afraid.
My [uguess[/u is that Lovegrove will choose to stay at Rovers. We might though pay a small fee for Poore, as it is rumoured we've parted ways with Tuimavave. The Cockayne thing is bemusing to me on an increasing number of levels, so I really haven't a clue on that.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"don't talk out your ring piece.'" Yes because a club with money worries pays a fee to tie up a loan deal obviously
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| Just a scenario here...What if Rovers want Poore but not quite on his current salary? He won't want to take a pay cut & Wakefield won't be prepared to subsidise the move but if the shortfall is broadly similar to any transfer fee I'm sure a deal could be done. You'd effectively be letting him go for free but getting rid of his wages. Possibility?
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| Quote ="PopTart"In that case, pay up and move on'"
I thought it was your round
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Yes because a club with money worries pays a fee to tie up a loan deal obviously
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if you care to take ten minutes to read the twelve words I wrote, I said it was rumoured. Not what I believed, not what I hoped... There were rumours, terms haven't been agreed... I was highlighting a possible link between the two. As a moderator, I'm sure I don't have to inform you that this is actually a forum
So you can lower the drawbridge and stop being so moody and defensive about it.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"if you care to take ten minutes to read the twelve words I wrote, I said it was rumoured. Not what I believed, not what I hoped... There were rumours, terms haven't been agreed... I was highlighting a possible link between the two. As a moderator, I'm sure I don't have to inform you that this is actually a forum
So you can lower the drawbridge and stop being so moody and defensive about it.'" You said this.
Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"plus HKR are rumoured to have financial problems - they might not be able to afford a fee anyway'" We have paid a fee for a loan so it's obvious we can afford a fee, The last 10 words of the quote above clearly means you are giving this rumour far more credence than you should.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"You said this.
We have paid a fee for a loan so it's obvious we can afford a fee, The last 10 words of the quote above clearly means you are giving this rumour far more credence than you should.'"
didn't give it any level of credence - I just threw it out there. You're getting far too defensive about very little
I;ve no idea of HKR's financial affairs, only the odd rumour which I never claimed to hold any water
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| Quote ="PopTart"Dave@Trin2013 - Although you say you don't think we can be choosey, I think we have to be exactly that. If we are to let players go that are in my opinion good players, we need to replace with good players, otherwise take the cash and invest in the youth we already have.
If Aiton has to go so be it. Cash it is.
If Cockayne goes, I'm happy with a £30k fee.
If Poore goes he is much harder to replace and we shouldn't be looking for average players to do that. I'd rather go witha weaker front row that is all potential and local than generally average players that will not help us (obviously I'm making a personal judgement on the names being talked about)'"
What I said on the duplicate KR forum and got sarcastic replies back suggesting we should be just happy getting them off the wage bill with no signing fee and 'Santa list, wish had million quid in bank and foot long dong comments but can't have what we all wish for' comments. Not worth the energy discussing it with KR forum. If the boot on other foot wonder whether they'd think it good business? Caro is rubbish and Lovegrove an average SL second row.
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| Not surprised this has dragged out s are always difficult to move on.
On a serious note no loss, anyone thinking he's worth keeping just watch reruns of the magic weekend and Leeds away.
Wakefield should forget him.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"plus HKR are rumoured to have financial problems - they might not be able to afford a fee anyway'"
Just to put the record straight hull kr do not have financial problems!
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| Quote ="another fine mess"Just to put the record straight hull kr do not have financial problems!'"
Why? Has Hudgell changed his mind about continuing to pour money into the black hole of HKR?
Or was that just a poor attempt at scare-mongering to try and get his own way?
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| Quote jacques wrote:
I only posted Wiki facts.
Didn't suggest he was any good or otherwise.
You guys seem to know a lot about a guy who only played four times for KR last season.
Both Hull KR and London fans have a similar view on his ability.'"
I've watched Caro come through the kids at London with Dixon and they are worlds apart. He can't naturally catch a ball. All he has is speed and thats straight line with no ball. He is useless. Poop in a poor London team
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| Quote ="asmadasa"eusa_clap.gif What I said on the duplicate KR forum and got sarcastic replies back suggesting we should be just happy getting them off the wage bill with no signing fee and 'Santa list, wish had million quid in bank and foot long dong comments but can't have what we all wish for' comments. Not worth the energy discussing it with KR forum. If the boot on other foot wonder whether they'd think it good business? Caro is rubbish and Lovegrove an average SL second row.'"
Tbf, while the straight swap thing and you taking Caro off our hands was 'optimistic', if that was what was being implied (players plus cash was my assumption), so was your suggested fee of £100k. The sarcasm was unnecessary, or overly robust perhaps.
It does seem that fans sometimes struggle to think about the other side of the deal - the boot being on t'other foot, as you put it.
Quote ="dboy"Why? Has Hudgell changed his mind about continuing to pour money into the black hole of HKR?
Or was that just a poor attempt at scare-mongering to try and get his own way?'"
We don't have immediate or pressing financial problems, is perhaps what afm means. We've got some new directors, alongside those who've been shouldering the burden to this point, and some new investment. Like most SL teams we remain a money pit. Hopefully our new north stand will mitigate that somewhat.
Genuinely - best of luck.
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| Quote ="dboy"Why? Has Hudgell changed his mind about continuing to pour money into the black hole of HKR?
Or was that just a poor attempt at scare-mongering to try and get his own way?'" New directors and more investment simple as.
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