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| Quote ="wildcat13"Then surely the players should not be sold til after the 28 days is up.'"
O'Hara's costs are ongoing. If O'Hara gets an offer on players and his costs are not covered then he will sell. O'Hara states that Mr Glover has not told him who he wants to keep. Surely a price was agreed on a player's roster. Once a player is sold from that roster then all bets are off. If the RFL have employed O'Haras then they must surely be instructing O'Hara and therefore take responsibility for sanctioning the decimation of the team and potential breakdown of any deal with Mr Glover.
O'Hara's have not come out of this article with any credit.
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| Quote ="wildcat13"If there is a plan b and the rfl are funding the admins for 28 days it would suggest a deal to takeover is not close and dare I say it that plan b is liquidation if nothing happens in this timescale.'"
It might be in order to encourage Mr Glover to come to the table again or it could be to encourage interest from other parties. Who knows
At the moment Mr Glover seems to be the only party in the running and could be using this position to agree terms favourable to him. (and who could blame him) It's all conjecture.
I am 100% confident that a team, as well supported as Trin is, will exist beyond this episode! Liquidation will not happen. There will eventually be a price that someone is prepared to pay for the club. Of that you can be sure.
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| The talk about washing dirty in public etc etc... The article states Mr Glover did not attend an arranged meeting with the administrators? So what do you want them to do? Maybe they can't contact him? They need to let potential buyers know the deal may be off in case it does collapse and your back to stage 1 again!
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs" If the RFL have employed O'Haras then they must surely be instructing O'Hara and therefore take responsibility for sanctioning the decimation of the team and potential breakdown of any deal with Mr Glover.
O'Hara's have not come out of this article with any credit.'" The RFL did no such thing.
And, ahead of Wednesday's deadline, a Wakefield club statement read: "We have not been able to secure the funds necessary to pay the amounts due to HMRC.
"We have no choice but to seek the appointment of an administrator."
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| Quote ="gowerthegroap"From that article it would appear Mr O'Hara is selling players to cover running costs and costs accrued prior to Friday. That includes Mr Parkins negotiations. What I would add however, is that Parkin was well within his rights to talk to the administrator, and never once went public at any stage of the process. Even to this day there are no comments directly attributed to him, a trait that O'Hara and Glover could learn something from. As you've said, don't wash dirty linen in public. The silence from Glover could suggest he now thinks the same.
As vexed as we are with all this, there is only one person who got us into this mess. And it isn't Glover, Parkin, O'Hara or the RFL. Although they are at fault for bringing their grievances into the public domain, creating this air of rumour and speculation, adding uncertainty to the game, and preventing a level playing field, they did not bring us to where we are today. That blame falls solely at the feet of Ted Richardson and that is who we should feel anger towards.'"
Agree 100% with you Andrew
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| If I was you lot I'd be wanting to know who handed Mr Glover access to the clubs official website to announce his group as new owners when that is yet to be officially the case.
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| Quote ="Chris B"Don't think anyone is saying that Mr Glover has been unprofessional, they are simply stating what the situation is.
When Widnes were in Administration the Administrator was quite often in the local media updating people as to what was happening. Fans were worried and wanted to know what the state of play was.
In this instance a company that has been appointed as the Administrator has had a 'potential' buyer make a claim that suggested everything was a done deal despite this not quite being the case. Since then there has been little in terms of forward momentum. People (the media) are clearly going to be asking what the situation is and questions may be asked about the efforts being made by the Administrator. I don't think it is unreasonable that the guy currently in charge updates everyone / sets the record straight / sends a warning shot across Mr Glovers bow / encourages other would be interested parties to come to the table.
I appreciate that as your potential new owner, you want to think the best of Mr Glover right from the off but there's no point in trying to find other's to blame for the apparent lack of action.'"
I'm not blaming O'Hara's for anything. If anything it's OHara's who are playing the blame game.
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| Quote ="J20"If I was you lot I'd be wanting to know who handed Mr Glover access to the clubs official website to announce his group as new owners when that is yet to be officially the case.'"
least of our worries to be honest at the moment.
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| Quote ="Chris B"It might be in order to encourage Mr Glover to come to the table again or it could be to encourage interest from other parties. Who knows
At the moment Mr Glover seems to be the only party in the running and could be using this position to agree terms favourable to him. (and who could blame him) It's all conjecture.
I am 100% confident that a team, as well supported as Trin is, will exist beyond this episode! Liquidation will not happen. There will eventually be a price that someone is prepared to pay for the club. Of that you can be sure.'"
Will take your word for it and hope your right.
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| If I was a Wakie fan right now I would be very, very peeved off. Crusaders and Harlequins didn't have to let their best players go, so why should you? Hope you get it sorted out sooner rather than later because we need to keep the Cas Vs Wakie derbies!
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| Quote ="wildcat13"Will take your word for it and hope your right.'"
Worst comes to the worst Supporters Trust will take over when fully set up! (Widnes had one doing the same) RFL will help see you through the season and then start again in lower leagues from scratch.
As I say though that's WORST!
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At least that is a small crumb of comfort.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"The RFL did no such thing.
And, ahead of Wednesday's deadline, a Wakefield club statement read: "We have not been able to secure the funds necessary to pay the amounts due to HMRC.
"We have no choice but to seek the appointment of an administrator."'"
Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'"
O'Hara's are effectively Wakefield Trinity Wildcats!
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
'" More to the point where does it state that they DID?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"bit of an over exaggeration there mate i think, the only "volunteer" i can ever remember getting any kind of agro on here was TRB, and that was for being too far up Teds ar$e he could neither see or breathe properly, not his selfless voluntary work.
I also agree with the rest.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'" O.hara's are in effect WTW ATM so it stands to reason they would take/need instructions from the RFL about the ongoing future of WTW seeing as they are running a RL club.
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Is this the news that ag was maybe waiting for?
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Is this the news that ag was maybe waiting for?
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Where does it state in your quote that the RFL did not appoint O'Hara's?
However, O'Hara states that he is being paid by the RFL. Who would you take instruction from Wildcats or RFL? If you were O'Hara who do you see as your employer?'"
I suggest you read up about the Administration process.
The Administrator is appointed by the company (i.e. by the directors or by the shareholders) or by the holder of a floating charge. Or by the Court on petition by a creditor.
He is an officer of the court and an agent of the company, and is obliged to act in the best interests of all the creditors while he attempts to secure a sale as a going concern. If the latter is not possible, then he has to secure the best return he can for the creditors.
Suggest you get some basic facts before you come on here and lecture these guys?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I suggest you read up about the Administration process.
The Administrator is appointed by the company (i.e. by the directors or by the shareholders) or by the holder of a floating charge. Or by the Court on petition by a creditor.
He is an officer of the court and an agent of the company, and is obliged to act in the best interests of all the creditors while he attempts to secure a sale as a going concern. If the latter is not possible, then he has to secure the best return he can for the creditors.
Suggest you get some basic facts before you come on here and lecture these guys?'" Thankyou Adeybull.
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| O Hara's are obviously the RFL's golden boys when it comes to admin. They claim to have rescued Keighley Cougars,Halifax Blue Sox, Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, Featherstone Rovers, Doncaster Dragons, Rochdale, Crusaders during the past decade. The Crusaders of course if you check their forum slipped through hardly noticed due to a lack of anyone giving a .......and the RFL making sure things were all nice and tidy. The rest speak for them selves they were not dealing with a SL set up on any of them.
O Hara has now gone back to the RFL for Plan B only to find out that he miss heard Big Nige during his morning Tea and Cake session. They were in fact discussing Big Nige's sweepstake pick in last night's Brit's !!
But joking apart O'Hara is quoted that they are covered for costs for 28 days by the RFL. Then why on DAY ONE does he start offloading players and spouting guff about needing money for wages etc when he only has to look at the fixture list to see that revenues from home fixtures will be available shortly to him and well within the 28 day time frame.
This was their game plan from the outset.They had a week to concoct it. They can't run a business they are proving it, they are recovering their costs as quickly as possible first and foremost.
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| Quote ="The Trip"O Hara's are obviously the RFL's golden boys when it comes to admin. They claim to have rescued Keighley Cougars,Halifax Blue Sox, Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, Featherstone Rovers, Doncaster Dragons, Rochdale, Crusaders during the past decade. The Crusaders of course if you check their forum slipped through hardly noticed due to a lack of anyone giving a .......and the RFL making sure things were all nice and tidy. The rest speak for them selves they were not dealing with a SL set up on any of them.
O Hara has now gone back to the RFL for Plan B only to find out that he miss heard Big Nige during his morning Tea and Cake session. They were in fact discussing Big Nige's sweepstake pick in last night's Brit's !!
But joking apart O'Hara is quoted that they are covered for costs for 28 days by the RFL. Then why on DAY ONE does he start offloading players and spouting guff about needing money for wages etc when he only has to look at the fixture list to see that revenues from home fixtures will be available shortly to him and well within the 28 day time frame.
This was their game plan from the outset.They had a week to concoct it. They can't run a business they are proving it, they are recovering their costs as quickly as possible first and foremost.'"
You do not have the first idea what you are talking about.
O'Hara & co have the assignment because they have specialised in this field.
They do NOT work for the RFL nor are they appointed by the RFL. They have to WORK with the RFL because they are now managing the club. They HAVE to act in the interests of all the creditors or they risk being sued - and HMRC have the clout to do that. And they HAVE to pursue a going concern sale as the priority because that is the law.
Everything I saw in the O'Hara statement made total sense to me - and indeed contained what I suspect were a number of inconvenient truths.
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| TBF I think clubs are 'advised' by the RFL to use O'Hara's (not neccesairily a bad thing as keeps it simple). But for a club based in North Wales to use them isn't exactly standard procedure.
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| Quote ="J20"TBF I think clubs are 'advised' by the RFL to use O'Hara's (not neccesairily a bad thing as keeps it simple). But for a club based in North Wales to use them isn't exactly standard procedure.'"
They are - suits all parties as it keeps the costs and learning curves down, and also precisely because O'Hara's DO know how to run a RL club. At least, a damn sight better than an accounting firm with no prior experience of RL clubs.
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