i took the point as being in response to someone calling him flashy and a big time charlie, not whether or not he should be playing

Ahh right. I guess what could be miscontrued, and I had no problem with him doing the story on Chanelle, is that some may take that as a distraction from his playing when he appears to be not living up to his potential.

But it's relevent when someone says he is stuck up his own etc.

adam..take the rose tinted specs off .. he never passes the ball and his tackling was woefull again on friday, senior must have been laughing all the way home..easiest game he has had in a while.
i am also wracking my brain as to when atkins made a tackle around the legs..please feel free to assist my recollection! well he was laughing with senior as they walked off together..whilst the other wilcat players looked devastated !

He was talking to Keith and Keith was giving himm some tips, I am sure in future he will ask you if that is ok sir!

He does not pass the ball, but when does he ever get a chance to? He never gets the ball in a decent position like Shenton, Snior and co. He should be getting more ball with the quality he posses but we fail to do that.

I am sure this happens all the time...... Opposition players 'helping each other' with their game. Perhaps the coaches get together too after games and offer constructive critisism of eachother too.

Maybe a decent centre makes his own room, drawing the opposition in to him creating the gaps for his winger?

I didn't, and I'm not blaming him for the loss. Read my post carefully please, the qualifying 'in one sense...' and the context of what I was responding to. If I wanted to wade in and blame him I'd have done that much earlier and in a much more strident manner.

Partly to do with the big brother story yes and there have been other stories such as the one about the snooker which are all well and good when you are playing well and to your potential. More to do with what I see as a big time charlie attitude his body language and some of his behaviour on the pitch like stamping on the York player in last years pre season friendly. Seems to have a bit of an attitude when he comes up against players he sees as inferior to him. Just seems to lack the commitment and attitude to work on his game but then maybe he's as happy to see his name in the paper for his sexual exploits as his rugby ones.

Were these tips regarding the winner of the 2.30 at Haydock

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Of course he gets the ball in decent positions, unfortunately for us, unlike Keefy & Shenton, as a centre, he’s not in the same league.

Adam, on Friday night sixteen Wakefield players played with a passion that we as fans should commend them for. If we ever get closer than that to beating Leeds, we will win. But, either Atkins was out of his depth against a very good centre, or he didn’t have the commitment of the rest of the team – which is it to be.

it was not his job to Marshall senior on Friday

there is no room for him to be stuck up his booty as normal someone else is there

As for people saying he shows no commitment to the cause I don't buy in to that, I'm sure he's as committed as the rest of the team, he failed to deal with Senior but so do lots of others to be fair. Obviously Atkins needs to improve and also needs to start realising his potential, a proper stand off would help, wonder how he'd go running off someone like Cooke who can spray a 30 yard ball out?

How mature



Maybe that is how he comes across, but when ever you talk to him he is sound and you can tell he enjoys signign autographs and talking to fans especialy the younger ones!

He had a decent game Friday, even Jk thinks so and I am sure that opinion will mean more to hime.

And Haywire, yes when you are a young up and comer often the experienced players give you tips after the game. But hey something else for Ryan to be slagged off about



Any way you may not be able to do that next season.......

There you go buddy.....he enjoys all the attention!!

Go on then - do tell?

No, it's more of making the younger fans happy. Something a few of the other players could take lessons in

Mate....I was winding you up!! As it happens, I think its great that players have time to spend time with the fans.

I sometimes train with Latu at the gym....that is what you call top notch!

how about making us older entrance paying fans happy?

Talking about something complete different do keep up

I often drink with latu in the bar..... that is what you call top notch

sorry i thought you was backing up atkins by suggesting that making the kids happy is of paramount importance i then suggested he kept me happy by producing the goods on the pitch

seeing as i pay part of his wage bill.

dont worry about me keeping up fella , i was a year and half ahead on this topic

Didn't you do that thread last year?

On the chatting with Senior thing - it'd look a lot better away from the game, especially after a narrow defeat, laughing and joking on camera. It's all about perception. Say like when you used to see the team up on Westgate after getting beaten, it never looks good to the regular supporter.

I am not talking about him leaving... And last season Hull were after him which I posted but he wanted to stay.

Yeah I see what you mean, but then if he had ignored Keith fans would be saying he was rude etc.