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| Thought we'd blown it but, what a gutsy effort, against all odds.
Child looked kike he was wearing his St Helens glasses in the second half but, at least he asked the VR to rule on a penalty try.
Fantastic to get our first 2 points of the season.
Superb effort from all 17 players, especially with the late change.
Well done boys
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| If the win is a result of lessons learnt from our first 2 games, it augurs well for the rest of the season, just don't forget the lesson!
Great win lads & from a place where we rarely come back with the spoils
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| 2 points from a possible 6 doesn't really reflect how well you played in all 3 games. You gave us (Hull) a real scare and by all accounts should have beaten the Giants. Delighted that your performance last night got the result it deserved. Onwards and upwards!!
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| Brilliant win but I thought bill tupou was top draw
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| A great win and good team performance. Onwards and upwards!
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| The big plus for us so far this season, is our defence, massively improved on the last few seasons.
If we continue to concede 16 points a game, we will win far more games than we lose.
Learning not to concede penalties on the back of errors is the main thing for us.
Still buzzing after the win !!!
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| Quote ="wakefield1990"we seem to be getting some awful conditions too, hopefully picks up for the Salford game.'"
I'll be happy with a few more rainy mud baths before "summer" rugby starts, not everyone is playing the conditions as well as Wakey are.
We'll see what happens when the ground stiffens up but for now the conditions have been more help than hindrance I reckon.
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| Quote ="Upanunder"I'll be happy with a few more rainy mud baths before "summer" rugby starts, not everyone is playing the conditions as well as Wakey are.
We'll see what happens when the ground stiffens up but for now the conditions have been more help than hindrance I reckon.'"
I actually think we are a more dry weather team so winning in the mud is a huge bonus for us.
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| Good to see our outside backs looking for work and running it in, a bonus when conditions are like they have been.
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| I know the conditions were pretty wet and boggy but I couldn't help but compare Thursday nights Cas game with the Saints game.
The difference was like night and day, the line speed Cas generated flicked Saints and Wakey in to a cocked hat, it can't all be the conditions and the quality of opposition.
Nice to see Scot Grix in the after match analysis, just when you think nobody knows wtf they're doing, he comes on TV and tells us.
I know they know what they're doing but sometimes you just need to hear them say it, its not the same as a pre match interview or midweek before the game chat about careers and team news, actual 1st hand game management is a part of the game we as fans are not privy to generally.
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| Quote ="Upanunder"I know the conditions were pretty wet and boggy but I couldn't help but compare Thursday nights Cas game with the Saints game.
The difference was like night and day, the line speed Cas generated flicked Saints and Wakey in to a cocked hat, it can't all be the conditions and the quality of opposition.
Nice to see Scot Grix in the after match analysis, just when you think nobody knows wtf they're doing, he comes on TV and tells us.
I know they know what they're doing but sometimes you just need to hear them say it, its not the same as a pre match interview or midweek before the game chat about careers and team news, actual 1st hand game management is a part of the game we as fans are not privy to generally.'"
of course conditions play a major part in how a game of rugby is played! cas have been fortunate they have had better conditions allowing them free flowing rugby, if they played in those conditions last night or on the opening sunday then they wouldnt have had the opportunity to do as they have
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| Although only listening on radio Leeds, there was one incident which could have been taken as a voluntary tackle. A saints player caught the ball just in front of the try line and immediately fell to the ground to avoid being pushed over the line. Did anyone see/remember it? And has a penalty ever been given in such circumstances?
The laws define:
"Voluntary tackle 4. A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play."
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Although only listening on radio Leeds, there was one incident which could have been taken as a voluntary tackle. A saints player caught the ball just in front of the try line and immediately fell to the ground to avoid being pushed over the line. Did anyone see/remember it? And has a penalty ever been given in such circumstances?
The laws define:
"Voluntary tackle 4. A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play."'"
Players need to learn to leave such a person alone. Then a penalty might follow.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Although only listening on radio Leeds, there was one incident which could have been taken as a voluntary tackle. A saints player caught the ball just in front of the try line and immediately fell to the ground to avoid being pushed over the line. Did anyone see/remember it? And has a penalty ever been given in such circumstances? '"
Stanley Gene down at Bellevue, I think it was against Shudds.
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| I was always positive that we could win this one...Saints aren't the team they were and we have improved ten-fold to where we were this time last season, especially in defence. Even when Saints went in front off the back of those ridiculous penalties, I still felt confident that we could grind out a win. Superb 80 minute effort from the boys
I also thought we looked fitter than last year too...bearing in mind the mudbath of a pitch that we were playing on, we were still tackling hard at the end whereas last year we would have run out of steam after 60 minutes, so plaudits must go to the conditioning staff as well
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Although only listening on radio Leeds, there was one incident which could have been taken as a voluntary tackle. A saints player caught the ball just in front of the try line and immediately fell to the ground to avoid being pushed over the line. Did anyone see/remember it? And has a penalty ever been given in such circumstances?
The laws define:
"Voluntary tackle 4. A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play."'"
I recall David Solomona standing over a player and he didn't touch him, David raised his arms in the air and waited until the ref gave a penalty.
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| What's funny about this thread is a certain Mr willzay had 2 negative comments when we went behind yet not 1 comment since the game finished.
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| Well then here's one - we could've just as easilly lost last night, just like people who say we could've easily won against Hull and Hudds. happy now?
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| No not happy with the WE part because you are no supporter of wakey. You might call yourself a fan but you definitely don't support the team.
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| You just cant help youself can you , your the only bloke on here who can make negatives out of posatives! You are a proper clown just no idea, go spread your poison somewhere else.
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| Not you Deeencee the willzay
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Although only listening on radio Leeds, there was one incident which could have been taken as a voluntary tackle. A saints player caught the ball just in front of the try line and immediately fell to the ground to avoid being pushed over the line. Did anyone see/remember it? And has a penalty ever been given in such circumstances?
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"Voluntary tackle 4. A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play."'"
At the time I commented it was a voluntary tackle.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Not you Deeencee the willzay knob'" I know lol he never supports the team and he can't wait to say negative things
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| Quote ="Upanunder"I know the conditions were pretty wet and boggy but I couldn't help but compare Thursday nights Cas game with the Saints game.
The difference was like night and day, the line speed Cas generated flicked Saints and Wakey in to a cocked hat, it can't all be the conditions and the quality of opposition.
Nice to see Scot Grix in the after match analysis, just when you think nobody knows wtf they're doing, he comes on TV and tells us.
I know they know what they're doing but sometimes you just need to hear them say it, its not the same as a pre match interview or midweek before the game chat about careers and team news, actual 1st hand game management is a part of the game we as fans are not privy to generally.'"
I concede Cas are playing very well, easily the form team. However they won't play like that all season. Even if they actually won SL they still wouldn't play that well more than a couple of times.
Wakey fans have very short memories but there was a pony from march till may last season when we looked utter class - but a few injuries and a loss in form and it went.
For me you can only judge any team at the end of the season - I can see us finding some super form at some point this season where we will beat the best - however when it arrives nad how long it lasts will define this squad.
What i have seen this season so far is a desire to be good - I'd say we are quite a bit off yet but it's there.
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| Poor Cunningham "I thought the ruling of a penalty try was that it has to be guaranteed that the player is going to score a try. That was my understanding. Can we guarantee he is going to score it?
It looked absolutely nailed on until he was taken off the ball, did he (Cunningham) want the ball on the ground and a hand 2 inches from it.
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