why does one poster consistute all , thats like me saying saying all widnes fans are cocks

I have sympathy for any team that doesn't finish bottom yet gets 'relegated' and also for any team that wins the league but doesn't get promoted. A sad day when off field matters mean more than those on the field.

well said that man

Takes a special person to come up with that set of conclusions - quite hilarious when you consider we are being replaced by a club that itself went into administration whilst failing on a monumental level to make any impression on SL the last time they were there. Or being sacrificed for a Welshish club that will fail within 18 month and offers the game nothing like what we do. Maybe we are not he only ones who need to look at the whole picture.

Quite right. The RFL started the licence game and indeed the SL clubs voted for it. Don't forget Wakefield stayed in SL under that system when they did not have the criteria to satisfy that the Championship Clubs had.

Widnes satisfies that criteria better than quite a few of the SL Clubs. Wakefield had their chance to improve their facilities over quite a few seasons, but didn't, and now it appears a bit too late. Pity really that a club with a great history and some great past players might lose out to clubs like Crusaders, Catalans and Quins.

You will know how us Widnesians felt when we were dumped in favour of a team that was a hotchpotch mix of players rather than a homegrown team, if you lose out.

Personally, I think Crusaders should get the chop, though I think Red Hall may not want to do so..

Winning the NRC was required as one of the criteria --- there were more at the Final than quite a few of the SL games.

Remind me what Wakefield have won in the last few years.

The right to be in SL due to never finishing bottom - it's an old fashioned concept I know but then I don't suppose it suits your argument does it. Remind me when Widnes last did that?

You see this is the problem with SL and franchising, it can be twisted to suit anyones agenda. It's not a level playing field, remember the it was so much more simple

2005.

When we also werent bottom.

Then you more than anyone should know the injustice of it - two wrongs don't make a right.

Didn't Wakey vote against letting any more Clubs into Super League, thus keeping it a closed shop ?

It's funny that John Kear is now saying as you haven't ended up bottom of the League, you shouldn't be relegated.


What goes around comes around..........

No

There's nothing like making things up, is there?

I believe they voted to keep the number of clubs at 14, rather than reduce it to 12, but they certainly did not vote to stop other teams coming up or make it a closed shop. If thats whats being peddled in the Championship make no wonder many of the supporters have a huge chip on their shoulder.

what a joke! we are all having a go at each other .we are getting to sound like wendyball supporters!!

lets face it no true rugby fan wants any heartland club to go down, its should be north/south/east/west crus that are relegated and mr glover given time to turn wakefield around!! soc did it for us.

good luck wakefield

Have to agree with you there. Hope widnes make a good go of it too, leave Catalan, London and cru at the bottom for the next 3 years

look widnes got crapped on when they got relegated simple as ... they got rid of 2 themes that year yet of course the Frenches stayed up . widnes have satisfied the rules this and good luck to them . you never know guys widnes may win the grand final or evens above win the league yet!!!!! and we could actually finish bottom.

maybe just maybe there may be a slight air of poetry to it.

ive just about accepted it . not a doom monger at all . A Glover , Longo , Elston will turn the club around and come 2015 i believe the rebirth will be in full swing . if we go lets not wallow in pity but lick our wounds get a few bits of silverware and get are asses back were we belong. and in newmarket!!!!!

I stopped reading this ridiculous topic after this post. How someone can have a go at our league performances when you rooted down at the bottom on 0 points. We got shafted last time and instead of moaning about it, the last 3 years we have put together an incredible bid whilst maintaining steady crowds and producing a class youth setup.
In recent years Wakefield have dropped into administration and as for stadium plans, i haven't a clue whats going on there.

I honestly don't get posters like you. As you say you find a silly post about your club on here and then try and defeat it and yourself by being even more stupid.

For a start you moaned like crazy, and why not you had a point.

How are we rooted at the bottom, we have actually won two games, something you will find is non too easy when you join the big boys. If we hadn't had points deducted we'd be doing rather well considering who we have had to play so far.

Incredible bid, yeah if you say so.

Maintained crowds, can't say I've noticed but again if you say so.

Most monumentally daft point of all. If a club like Widnes can't put together a good youth policy to cope with the demand of an NL1 team and general Academy football then you'd better give up now. However before you get carried away wait and see if they make the step up to SL - it's a whole different world where NL1 players can go from Kings to clowns very quickly.

Wakefield went into admin this year, it's Widnes that did it in recent years - remember?

No one is moaning about Widnes getting into SL, people are unhappy with the system in general as they always have been. However we do accept we have to a degree been the masters of our own downfall.

admin ? house , stone , throw , glass

It may take some time to get use to but this is how its going to be from now on, people have had 4 years to come to terms with it. I dont know how people can moan with the whole franchise situation, if anything, it has improved superleague by quite a bit. It gives some of the smaller clubs chances to improve on a 3 year basis. I'd never have thought that the top of the table would be Warrington, huddersfield and then Castleford. Only 4 years ago in 2007, Castleford where playing in the championship. This in itself surely indicates the success of the system, it allows clubs to slowly develop without the worry of relegation hanging over them

Saying sorry would have been easier

... and better!!

I wasn't trying to have a go at Wakefield just try to justify the system and why we were picked and hopefully, within the 3 years given to us, we would be a better team. Although you may seem favourites to go down the RFL could relegate another team. Dare to Dream

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