[quote="Shifty Cat":1r2mvwub]Even so, you've got to admit it's still pretty amazing to be seen as bottom dwellers. We've got one of the richest owners in SL, sign 3 Marquee players, plus all the other quality SL players to add to the team that dominated the Championship. Ellis has changed the total outlook and ambitions of the club since he arrived, as well as the work on the ground and here we are, same tired old predictions, it's as though nothings changed, it's still 2015 . For so called pundits, they just don't seem to have put any thought into it at all but why change now hey. Even taking into account opinions, it's just baseless rubbish. You'd never see this kind of set up in the NRL, their pundits will have researched and know what they're talking about, who's gonna make the team better, why and how. It's part of the reason we are where we are as a spport in the UK, amateur hour.[/quote:1r2mvwub] Until we win anything in SL or go on a mega unbeaten run we will always have the basement club stigma, it’s Wakey and for some reason most pundits have the same mentality, we need to prove them wrong, we’ve made a very good start off the field so now need to do it on the field, it still baffles me when you have Cas and Shudds with poor squads rated higher, but it is what it is, bring on SL

Wilkin has obviously not seen Cas play the last couple of weeks? Barring Milnes they are just about at full strength. And look way off. Huddersfield have had to pull in Richardson on loan 2 weeks before the season starts which doesn't look good after losing to Fev. FC won't be up to much either, despite Mylers claim of a change in culture. I think we will be better than those 3 sides. Anything more will be a bonus. If Leigh or Salford suffer injury problems we could sneak above them as they are thin on depth in my opinion.

[quote="Big lads mate":3i2nknlc]Until we win anything in SL or go on a mega unbeaten run we will always have the basement club stigma, it’s Wakey and for some reason most pundits have the same mentality, we need to prove them wrong, we’ve made a very good start off the field so now need to do it on the field, it still baffles me when you have Cas and Shudds with poor squads rated higher, but it is what it is, bring on SL[/quote:3i2nknlc] I agree. We still carry that stigma, which is easily jumped upon by the likes of Wilkin, and other lazy Sky pundits who don't actually know what is happening around the game in general.

Sit that numpty Wilkin on one of those plastic seats with all his Saints mates when they come to BV!

It’s the Laziness of the punditry that just baffles me as to how they just scrape on by. You wonder why RL is lower than a snakes belly in the U.K. The NRL has Joey Johns, Brad Fittler, Billy Slater, Cam Smith et al detailing the team’s and their strengths/weaknesses etc. SL has these Doughnuts, Wilkin an above average player who thinks he’s more articulate than what he really is and JJB who sounds like Lenny from of Mice and Men. Right laugh.

[quote="Richard1":2q8s4s8a]Wilkin has obviously not seen Cas play the last couple of weeks? Barring Milnes they are just about at full strength. And look way off. Huddersfield have had to pull in Richardson on loan 2 weeks before the season starts which doesn't look good after losing to Fev. FC won't be up to much either, despite Mylers claim of a change in culture. I think we will be better than those 3 sides. Anything more will be a bonus. If Leigh or Salford suffer injury problems we could sneak above them as they are thin on depth in my opinion.[/quote:2q8s4s8a] I’ve been cautiously not getting hyped up with Wakey, having watched them for many years and been let down on many occasions, but having watched them over the last few weeks I honestly believe that we are definitely a mid table team and possibly even better with a strong tail wind