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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Does anyone know if MC has asked the RL for help in maintaining the most historic of grounds. If so it is another secret we haven't been trusted with . MC TRB etc treats supporter as if they are children who are not to be trusted. We are expected to just turn up every week wherever he decides to take the club and meekly buy our season tickets shirts pies lottery tickets beer etc and not ask questions. Well someone should tell him this is the entertainment business and the customers needs to be listened to and this customer and many long time supporters like myself will NOT be going to Dewsbury .'"
I refute that suggestion. These are delicate matters and everything we say is monitored by others and they can be quite sensitive about some of the ongoing matters involved. You need to give some thought to what you are saying here. If we'd told you everything we 'thought' was going to happen you'd have strung us up by now for them not doing, hence we will tell you when we 'know' something will.
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| Headingley rugby/cricket asking for 4 million pounds for redevelopment of the multi sport stand ... If only!!
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| Had a couple of interesting chats on my annual trip back up north at the weekend for the derby match which, if true, means Belle Vue might not be dead yet, we just might need a while away. I spoke to two separate and unconnected people (though both move in circles that could hear about these kind of things) and it seemed quite open knowledge that the plan is now to give up Newmarket to the developer in return for them purchasing of the ground from the bank and the funding of new stands and hospitality put up in the place of the current ones, whilst the council are also prepared to purchase a piece of grassed land nearby and donate it to the club for use as a matchday car park. I don't know what area of land as i was told that wasn't decided yet. I can only think of the sports & social club nearby unless they are considering somewhere further out and a park and ride system? Could be way out on that though. Now whether it is old news and the superbowl and gym being bought by a property developer has made a mess of this i'm not sure but it didn't seem a big secret at the weekend. Anyway one to add to the rumours list.
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| Well come on then Ball in Hand if the RFL will not allow us to continue at Belle Vue , what do you suggest?
We have to go somewhere and what is so horrendous about Dewsbury ?
I too am a long timer , over 60 years, but will certainly not be deserting them at this crucial time.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Had a couple of interesting chats on my annual trip back up north at the weekend for the derby match which, if true, means Belle Vue might not be dead yet, we just might need a while away. I spoke to two separate and unconnected people (though both move in circles that could hear about these kind of things) and it seemed quite open knowledge that the plan is now to give up Newmarket to the developer in return for them purchasing of the ground from the bank and the funding of new stands and hospitality put up in the place of the current ones, whilst the council are also prepared to purchase a piece of grassed land nearby and donate it to the club for use as a matchday car park. I don't know what area of land as i was told that wasn't decided yet. I can only think of the sports & social club nearbyo unless they are considering somewhere further out and a park and ride system?[u Could be way out on that though. Now whether it is old news and the superbowl and gym being bought by a property developer has made a mess of this[/u i'm not sure but it didn't seem a big secret at the weekend. Anyway one to add to the rumours list.'"
As I understand it this is the case, only time will tell.
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| With the Superbowl and Gym on the eastern side, there is such a massive area here that could be developed, but for me the only real sticking point here, is the kitchen and bathroom shop, and that what is either a house or old flats next to it, which could hamper development. If this could be re developed, then couldn't the pitch be moved a bit further east than what it is, so back west and east could be re vamped.
I walk past the stadium most days, coming home from work, and would guess from touchline on the east stand to footpath, there is possibly 30-40 metres space.
I also think we would benefit capacity wise, by making it a 4 sided stadium, with having the hospitality running the length of the stadium.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"With the Superbowl and Gym on the eastern side, there is such a massive area here that could be developed, but for me the only real sticking point here, is the kitchen and bathroom shop, and that what is either a house or old flats next to it, which could hamper development. If this could be re developed, then couldn't the pitch be moved a bit further east than what it is, so back west and east could be re vamped.
I walk past the stadium most days, coming home from work, and would guess from touchline on the east stand to footpath, there is possibly 30-40 metres space.
I also think we would benefit capacity wise, by making it a 4 sided stadium, with having the hospitality running the length of the stadium.'"
The Super Bowl and gym have been sold to a property developer so that is a no no.
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| So if bv can't be redeveloped and Newmarket is been given up to the developer what's the alternative ?
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| Dewsbury?
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| Could ground be revamped without super bowl land?
And whoever has bought Super Bowl would need planning! And he would need the council for that ..
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| Could Newmarket still be built ?
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| I think some people still don't get it. The ground could be purchased and upgraded to make a good stadium. I am also sure if there was the will, superbowl could still be acquired . We could stay down at Belle Vue and many would be happy to do that.
Alternatively a stadium at Newmarket could also be built to provide a super facility. Some people would prefer that.
These projects have not been scrapped at all, both are entirely feasible providing you find the MONEY !!!!!
The only thing preventing all this is that small matter of funds and there is only one source of that, Yorkcourt.
If you believe in fairy tales then your dream of a new stadium will come true. Personally I don't and by the actions of yorkcourt so far in all of this, I don't think they will hand over a penny.
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| If we reach the Challenge Cup Final we would have a chance to shout it out louder and to a bigger audience, via the media attention, the plight we are in regarding the Ground. Wonder how Mr. Box and Yorkcourt would like that?????
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Had a couple of interesting chats on my annual trip back up north at the weekend for the derby match which, if true, means Belle Vue might not be dead yet, we just might need a while away. I spoke to two separate and unconnected people (though both move in circles that could hear about these kind of things) and it seemed quite open knowledge that the plan is now to give up Newmarket to the developer in return for them purchasing of the ground from the bank and the funding of new stands and hospitality put up in the place of the current ones, whilst the council are also prepared to purchase a piece of grassed land nearby and donate it to the club for use as a matchday car park. I don't know what area of land as i was told that wasn't decided yet. I can only think of the sports & social club nearby unless they are considering somewhere further out and a park and ride system? Could be way out on that though. Now whether it is old news and the superbowl and gym being bought by a property developer has made a mess of this i'm not sure but it didn't seem a big secret at the weekend. Anyway one to add to the rumours list.'"
Tallies up with what i was told last week. It didn't take long to get out, may as well have saved myself the hassle and put it on here anyway! Doubt TRB is going to be happy though! I guess that he wanted it keeping under wraps means the superbowl sale hasn't affected the plans too much and we might finally get somewhere. Fingers crossed, i guess we'll see soon enough.
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| The land you refer to has been offered to the club on numerous occasions going back more than 10 years. Its at the far side of Agbrigg Road between the houses and the stream. However a local councillor called Olivia Rowley got to know about this and stopped it going any further due to the fact a donkey grazed on it. If the council sold the land the poor donkey would have nowhere to graze.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"The land you refer to has been offered to the club on numerous occasions going back more than 10 years. Its at the far side of Agbrigg Road between the houses and the stream. However a local councillor called Olivia Rowley got to know about this and stopped it going any further due to the fact a donkey grazed on it. If the council sold the land the poor donkey would have nowhere to graze.'"
I believe this is no longer an issue as said donkey has since gained a cabinet position alongside it's brethren and as such now has a nice plush office within the town hall.
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| Quote ="cocker"If we reach the Challenge Cup Final we would have a chance to shout it out louder and to a bigger audience, via the media attention, the plight we are in regarding the Ground. Wonder how Mr. Box and Yorkcourt would like that?????'"
I'm with you on that one.!
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| Quote ="Theboyem"I believe this is no longer an issue as said donkey has since gained a cabinet position alongside it's brethren and as such now has a nice plush office within the town hall.'"
Box has been the leader of the council for years!
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| So if we don't get Belle Vue purchased Hull FC at home will be our last game at Belle Vue
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| TRB has been saying the same thing for years I know stuff but I cant say anything- nothing has happened for him to say anything ever!!!!!
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| Just thinking, if we do end up at Dewsbury, how is that ground gonna hold SL games when it's attendance is 3500 or whatever it is. That hardly covers our own fans let along when Leeds, Hull, Wigan etc come to town. That's the one thing I don't get in this proposed move, the Stadium is nice & tidy but I thought we needed a 10k stadium to play in SL or whatever the number is. As MC as stated he wants to start looking at selling Season tickets for next year in the next month or so. Unless there's going to be so some upgrades to the ground we're going to take a serious hit in the cash department because of attendance.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So if we don't get Belle Vue purchased Hull FC at home will be our last game at Belle Vue'"
That's been on my mind since the news came out, this year truly could be our last at Belle Vue. If that's the case hopefully everyone that's not come to a game before for whatever reason , or fans that haven't been in ages, can make an effort and fill the place one final time.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Just thinking, if we do end up at Dewsbury, how is that ground gonna hold SL games when it's attendance is 3500 or whatever it is. That hardly covers our own fans let along when Leeds, Hull, Wigan etc come to town. That's the one thing I don't get in this proposed move, the Stadium is nice & tidy but I thought we needed a 10k stadium to play in SL or whatever the number is. As MC as stated he wants to start looking at selling Season tickets for next year in the next month or so. Unless there's going to be so some upgrades to the ground we're going to take a serious hit in the cash department because of attendance.'"
I don't know how true this is Shifty old boy so don't be shooting the messenger, but I was told on Sunday that just about the only thing we own at Bellevue were the seats in the Eastern stand, and that if the club were going to Dewsbury so would those seats, maybe that might go someway to answering your fears about upgrading the ground.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I don't know how true this is Shifty old boy so don't be shooting the messenger, but I was told on Sunday that just about the only thing we own at Bellevue were the seats in the Eastern stand, and that if the club were going to Dewsbury so would those seats, maybe that might go someway to answering your fears about upgrading the ground.'"
Not true, as far as I am aware, the bank own the land but the club owns everything that is on it such as the stands, seats, hospitality block.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Not true, as far as I am aware, the bank own the land but the club owns everything that is on it such as the stands, seats, hospitality block.'"
That's how I remember it, wasn't the quote "everything above the turf is owned by us"?
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