As I've said 100 times, at this stage what matters is that we have a stadium fit for purpose. At the moment BV is way short of that. Whether it is cheaper to do BV than NM is debatable - but a self build on the scale of what we need is out of the question - this is way more than a stand with a few seats in it.

PS, I'd love to come and project manage it if we do!

I must be incredibly hard and frustrating trying to negotiate when half the table isn't as commited the trust. Let's keep strong and keep battling.

If the stadium trust bought back belle it all depends how much funding the have to how much will be developed. If we can afford a full redevelopment of Belle Vue surely it would be cheaper just for new (off the shelf) stadium at newmarket. As for car parking if staying at belle vue I'd get stadium sorted first I've never had a problem parking at belle vue I don't see the obsession in it. Most grounds don't have car parks and those that do people avoid, imagine some on here paying a fiver to park at belle vue.

Car parking next to the ground is a requirement of the RFL for officials etc. add to that the sponsors etc and there is just not enough at BV currently.

I've seen Karl Kirkpatrick threaten to abandon a game because someone nicked his space - seriously!

I know, East stand/Super Bowl carpark is ample, I was talking about the supporters car parks they would be good revenue though but I'd get stadium sorted first. I'd love to stay at Belle Vue Redevelop it but still have a bit of character that these box set out of town stadia lack. Start with new covered west terrace and move onto the rest.

Yes but he needed to be parked close by, to get to his car quickly when the woman with the umbrella was pursuing him.






Disappointing (but not altogether surprising) to hear that the meeting didn't go as well as hoped. Keep your chin up and keep plodding on.

TRB you (and your co-workers) have no need to apologise or justify anything you do to anyone on here. Those complaining have every right to get off their butts and do something on their own initiative to take the club forward. What's the phrase? Put up or shut up.

What can I say. I was hoping for more BUT I couldn't wish for more commitment, patience and sheer hard graft than what TRB, IA et al are putting in. Keep going lads and know you have a lot of respect and quiet support from a lot of people.

Don't bite mate he's not worth the effort - he's a coward simple as that.

Keep up the good work.

While reading the updates from TRB are very frustrating, they must be even more frustrating for him to type.

Keep fighting the fight, the majority of us are behind you all the way!

If all else fails I agree with Snowie that a self build stand could be an option.
If the ground could be purchased and a new west stand added, surely that is better than nothing at all.
One willing helper here!

What about the big humungous piece of crap near my house biggest cold food store in europe. Easy thing to say no money but we are stuck with that. What did council say regarding the meeting were they positive or just there dreary selfs. JOKE

Yorkcourt don't have the money for a stadium even with the further development of the area allowed beforehand, they never did have hence the loosely worded S106 giving them a get out of jail free card. They have (and continue to do so) strung this along for as long as possible to wait until there is another 'community' stadium build agreed just a couple of junctions up the motorway thus giving Wakefield council a nice little get out clause as well. Don't tell me, you have another meeting in a month or so, specifically after the 19th Feb? Just after a rather important council meeting for Castleford Tigers and the Lateral group i'd expect. That project will get chosen as the councils preferred option for that area without a doubt which will finally extinguish any remnants of support for a stadium at Newmarket.

The stadium trust, Wakefield Trinity and the local residents have been done up like a kipper and as i've been saying for months Newmarket is dead in the water. Eric Pickles and his communities department have a new mandate that is pushing more and more decisions to a local level so a complaint to him will likely result in him letting the council adjudicate on the planning issue. Which way do you think they would go? And a legal fight would be way too expensive for the trust to consider. If there is an option of any money at all on the table that can go towards Belle Vue then it has to be worth considering because you just are not going to get everything you want. YCP will just landbank NM for as long as is needed for it not to be an issue anymore, they are in no rush, they don't have businesses signed up for the development right now anyway. The longer this goes on the more likely it is that the trust will end up with nothing out of it, i doubt the Bank of Ireland will want to sit on BV forever. It is a nice piece of real estate that already has planning for housing and to date hasn't yet been given ACV status. Although all that does is buy six months of time, it doesn't secure the ground long term. Also the superbowl and gym won't be available forever. YCP have no legal responbility to build us anything and they have already showed us their moral standing. If it is left too late and the land is sold from under the clubs feet than expect the push for a groundshare to start up again. Lets not even go there.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for the people who have been fighting the battle and thanks to them the club may end up with something, even if it is just the ground and maybe surrounding area back in the clubs name. But the time has come for some tough decisions to be made and make sure something at least is gleaned from this rather than nothing at all.

A seperate development that rode in on the back of the LDF changes. You better get used to it as it probably won't be the only one that springs up out of the ground, the precident has been set.

Cut the crap.

Are you at these meetings err no. Your just a thinks he knows it all speculator who ponces round this forum knowing he/she can't be challenged face to face. I'll take my cues from those who actually know what's happening if you don't mind.

Personally I wish you'd do one but it's a free country so I can't- however as everyone knows who TRB is and can talk to and question him freely so why don't you level the playing field and tell us who you are and what are your credential - mmm thought not.

Unfortunately, these words, don't match with the tone in the rest of your post.

I've worked in planning at local government level for over twenty years starting at WMDC, so I know how the system works. Although I live down south these days I also still have connections there and within the building trade. Being Wakefield born and bred I also have been a Trinity fan all my life, albeit now from afar, so funnily enough I take an interest. I haven't been wrong with my predictions so far but you carry on trying to belittle everyone who posts on here who won't suck up to you. I've seen the way you post and talk to people and quite frankly your attitude stinks and your reputation as one of the most laughable contributors to this website is very much justified. It won't wash with me i'm afraid, i've come up successfully against people with more bite than you. But it is people like you who have turned this forum into the poor relation of what it once was. You don't enter into debate, you stomp yout little feet and get personal. Get over yourself.

But in the interest of keeping the peace i'll happily go and 'do one' (how mature of you) and leave you all to hopefully glean something out of this mess. It's not worth the hassle. Good luck, you're going to need it.

Where have I had a go at the people trying to help exactly? If you read it properly then my beef is mainly with the developer who have pulled the wool over everyones eyes and the inner council chamber who have been less than supportive. But does anybody really think that £12million is going to just come the trusts way? To keep pushing for that may result in nothing at all. At some point soon then it may have to be a case of cut and run or risk losing the lot. But that there there call, as I have said good luck with your efforts. I'll happily keep my opinons to myself in future which i'm sure will please the majority on here.

Bye.

Thought you'd gone, knew it was to good to be true

You're not on your own in that stance, I had my say as soon as it became common knowledge that YCP had circumvented the S106. My words were something along the lines of, they've revealed their intentions. IMO it was time back then, about a year ago, to go for the people involved with all that we had. We should have gone straight to the SoS Office, The media, the WMDC etc.

At the same time I too praised those who are persevering with their strategy and I will support them in spite of having a different opinion on things. I respect the time and effort that those individuals are putting into this cause and I wish them success.

I'm a supporter of some 40 odd years and watch home and away, attend Scolarship and Academy matches and pay into 1873. My opinion is as valid as the next mans and just because I don't share the same idea on how to move forward doesn't make me less of a supporter or mean I'm being critical.
Colin Mackie has stitched the Community up and won't lose a wink of sleep about it. The biggest question for me is who else knew about the stitch up.

So the details from the meeting are vague but we know a) - It was disappointing and b) - Newmarket is still possible.

Same as the last time then so why the doom and gloom?
In what way was the meeting a disappointment?
No one surely expected YCL to come up with some brass for BV surely?

Keep up the good work TRB and all invovled.

I think it is disappointing as it was believed that we were further forward with negotiations as it turns out we are.