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| Quote ="bren2k"Agreed - with both; he's yesterday's man.'"
No question that he was better 5 years ago than he is now but, he would bring an excellent kicking game and some experience on closing games out, just as he has at Shudds.
On the downside, discipline and fitting into the tight knit group at BV.
Brough needs to be top dog and running the game and is prone to chuck the teddy out of the cot when he doesn't get his way.
I'd still put him a long way in front of Finn, who was our starting 7, last season and this (until Hampshire got the gig).
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| Nope. Not for me.
There is no doubt he is a good player but he is on his way down.
When we got Grix and Finn we bought good players at the end of their careers with great attitude and leadership who would bring a young team on. They did exactly that. Broughy is not that kind of player.
In addition, what about all the talk of giving Hampshire a shot? His goal kicking is better than Brough now. His speed certainly is and might be faster than when Brough was at his best too. It's certainly close. He has Finn in the backroom being a mentor and coach.
If Brough already has a poor attitude, what's he going to be like when he isn't first choice every time? I'd rather sign Reynolds which is rumoured or even Mellor for good competition without egos.
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| As if anyone wouldn't have Brough on a 1 year deal. Still a quality player and a kicking game is something we have lacked immensely this season. I'd love him back at Belle Vue for a season. We've got the culture at the club for him to thrive in.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"No question that he was better 5 years ago than he is now but, he would bring an excellent kicking game and some experience on closing games out, just as he has at Shudds.
On the downside, discipline and fitting into the tight knit group at BV.
Brough needs to be top dog and running the game and is prone to chuck the teddy out of the cot when he doesn't get his way.
I'd still put him a long way in front of Finn, who was our starting 7, last season and this (until Hampshire got the gig).'"
Exactly this. Would be like a better Finn imo.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"As if anyone wouldn't have Brough on a 1 year deal. Still a quality player and a kicking game is something we have lacked immensely this season. I'd love him back at Belle Vue for a season. We've got the culture at the club for him to thrive in.'"
This exactly, other issues aside it makes me laugh how some were happy to run with Finn this season (as was I by the way) yet would stay away from Broughy who's is 1. Not fast but still a lot quicker than Finn 2. Has one of the best kicking games in the league and 3. Is on par if not better at organising a team.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"As if anyone wouldn't have Brough on a 1 year deal. Still a quality player and a kicking game is something we have lacked immensely this season. I'd love him back at Belle Vue for a season. We've got the culture at the club for him to thrive in.'"
Yet that is exactly what most posters have put, they wouldnt, yet as ever you totally ignore them claiming yours is the only opinion that matters. You’re entitled to it but you’re not entitled to claim you speak for all.
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| Ok he's 35 but he can still kick well and provide that killer pass 1 year deal imo
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet that is exactly what most posters have put, they wouldnt, yet as ever you totally ignore them claiming yours is the only opinion that matters. You’re entitled to it but you’re not entitled to claim you speak for all.'"
The only persons opinion who matters when it comes to making signings has the opposite one to you on the player in question.
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| Forget the question marks over his waning ability and concentrate on his woeful discipline and that he generally acts like a complete tool and that should be enough to put anyone off. We rely on a happy camper to get the best out of the team and Brough doesn’t fit the ethos of being a team man
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Forget the question marks over his waning ability and concentrate on his woeful discipline and that he generally acts like a complete tool and that should be enough to put anyone off. We rely on a happy camper to get the best out of the team and Brough doesn’t fit the ethos of being a team man'"
That's it for me, it isn't that he couldn't do a job for us for a year but it's attitude that worries me. Also, he'll be 36 in January, I personally just don't see the point of bringing him back and potentially rocking the boat where team spirit is a big part of our success the past 2 years. I would much rather sign a young half like Reynolds who would probably be on less and doesn't come with the baggage and also has youth on his side. Also, would he be happy to play second fiddle to Hampshire, surely we didn't desperately try to keep him here, to bring a player like Brough in.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Ok he's 35 but he can still kick well and provide that killer pass 1 year deal imo'"
He's 36 in a couple of months or so.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That's it for me, it isn't that he couldn't do a job for us for a year but it's attitude that worries me. Also, he'll be 36 in January, I personally just don't see the point of bringing him back and potentially rocking the boat where team spirit is a big part of our success the past 2 years. I would much rather sign a young half like Reynolds who would probably be on less and doesn't come with the baggage and also has youth on his side. Also, would he be happy to play second fiddle to Hampshire, surely we didn't desperately try to keep him here, to bring a player like Brough in.'"
Of course he wouldn’t be happy to play second fiddle to Hampshire, that’s not his style. He’ll expect to be number 1 choice. Which wouldn’t exactly enamour Rocky.
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| Some are justifying taking Brough, by suggesting he's worth a one year deal, to help us to the next level. Possibly correct.
However, with the 8s gone and fears of relegation not really a realistic worry for us (I know, I know), wouldn't it be the perfect season to be investing in youth?
Batchelor, Crowther, Jowitt, Ben Reynolds(?) could all see some enough action to really get them to the next level in 12 months time.
Time to invest/trust in youth?
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet that is exactly what most posters have put, they wouldnt, yet as ever you totally ignore them claiming yours is the only opinion that matters. You’re entitled to it but you’re not entitled to claim you speak for all.'"
As ever your lack of comprehension is quite astonishing. I never "ignored" anyone or said mine was the only thing that mattered or did claim to speak for anyone. Merely expressed that I didn't UNDERSTAND why people would not like to see Brough. Which of course, you are entitled to retort to as long as you're not making things up. You'd pick a fight with your own reflection, Vasty. But everybody already knows that and it is real boring.
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| Quote ="dboy"Some are justifying taking Brough, by suggesting he's worth a one year deal, to help us to the next level. Possibly correct.
However, with the 8s gone and fears of relegation not really a realistic worry for us (I know, I know), wouldn't it be the perfect season to be investing in youth?
Batchelor, Crowther, Jowitt, Ben Reynolds(?) could all see some enough action to really get them to the next level in 12 months time.
Time to invest/trust in youth?'"
This is a fair enough argument. At 36, would Brough be bothered if he was backup or not used in every game? Would be no better player for our halfbacks to learn how to kick in a game of Rugby League. When was the last time Brough was in major bother off the field? He's got a bit of bark and bite about him on the field but are we too nice at times as a team? I think so. I don't know the bloke personally (maybe some do) but he doesn't exactly seemed to have caused uproar at Huddersfield which you would think considering how people are making him out to be.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"This is a fair enough argument. At 36, would Brough be bothered if he was backup or not used in every game? Would be no better player for our halfbacks to learn how to kick in a game of Rugby League. When was the last time Brough was in major bother off the field? He's got a bit of bark and bite about him on the field but are we too nice at times as a team? I think so. I don't know the bloke personally (maybe some do) but he doesn't exactly seemed to have caused uproar at Huddersfield which you would think considering how people are making him out to be.'"
Didn't he get kicked out of the Scottish world cup team and get sent home?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"The only persons opinion who matters when it comes to making signdings has the opposite one to you on the player in question.'"
Does he, so where is this statement of in tent then?
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| Back on post,
Leeds seem to be pushing to offload Goulding, wire seem to be interested, I don’t think he would offer anything more than Max,, good pre season start Jowitt which will give him the confidence and belief he’s our No1 , then for me it is his shirt to loose, already interesting to see how this one will plan out !
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| Spot on Prop9824.
MJ was rookie of the year 2 years ago.
2017 affected his confidence due to lack of game time.
He will get better knowing that the shirt is his to lose.
Full back is not a problem for Wakefield Trinity!
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| The day a player thinks the shirt is his to lose is they day he stops progressing.
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Spot on Prop9824.
MJ was rookie of the year 2 years ago.
2017 affected his confidence due to lack of game time.
He will get better knowing that the shirt is his to lose.
Full back is not a problem for Wakefield Trinity!'"
I know what you mean ricardo, but perhaps better worded as 'the shirt is now his to gain!'
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| Brough won't be bothered about the Huddersfield captaincy next year will he.
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| I don't know if it's been posted anywhere lse, apologies if it has but RL Express yesterday annoud that Shudds were interested in taking Grix back now that Max seems to have bagged his place and with Hooley waiting in the wings.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I don't know if it's been posted anywhere lse, apologies if it has but RL Express yesterday annoud that Shudds were interested in taking Grix back now that Max seems to have bagged his place and with Hooley waiting in the wings.'"
Other breaking News: The Titanic has sunk.
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| they say t'OWD uns o' best Wollo, not t'ANCIENT uns.!!!
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