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| I agree in terms of attendance
Leeds brought a lot, which I'm sure MC will appreciate but it does show we are at a low point with crowds, however, if we beat Salford next week (I realise that is a big IF) we could easily draw a lot back in.
If we can show we are going to be competitive in the middle 8 I think the crowds will gradually increase
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree in terms of attendance
Leeds brought a lot, which I'm sure MC will appreciate but it does show we are at a low point with crowds, however, if we beat Salford next week (I realise that is a big IF) we could easily draw a lot back in.
If we can show we are going to be competitive in the middle 8 I think the crowds will gradually increase'"
I agree and i think the Salford game is huge for us. A win under the new coach might just give a little bit of belief going forward and tempt some back but if the same continues, followed by a very tough trip to the south of France shown on sky which i'm not confident about, then i fear attendances for the remainder of the season could be very poor and it has to hit revenue MC's projections which means that player budget might not be as large. Big game.
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| Our fixtures before the middle 8 are now
Salford (H)
Catalan (A)
Hull (H)
Hull (A)
Warrington (H)
Castleford (H)
Huddersfield (A)
Clearly there are no easy ones after the Salford game so that is key there is no doubt.
Unfortunately Hull have stepped up a bit but we've had good results against them previously so why not.
It will be a big task for Smith and the team to get any wins but just one and some close games where we show some resilience would do us good for the middle eight.
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| I have just scanned a few comments..shambolic errors, not good enough bad attitude jumped out. We were good enough to beat Cas and HKR at the start of the season, and pretty well so too. St Helens home we were robbed ..then a few injuries and the wheels fell off. We are a mediocre squad but nowhere near as bad as these results. That said the main issue for me is what happens when the ball goes wide. Our centres look all at sea and there sems nobody sliding to cover with them. We are always short on numbers and everyone including Leigh knows it. Even they just flung it quick out wide and hey ho there it is..try
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Yes we are, I've said it for a while. Although form will no doubt put many non season ticket holders from attending, the numbers of people actual willing to part with their cash to watch Trinity are frighteningly meagre and will not enable the club to thrive as a top flight entity. It will always be a struggle bar the odd blip.'" They are only unwilling to part with their cash to watch being slaughtered week in and week out. If Trinity could provide a competitive team we would have good attendances. Our averages were 8/9k not long ago. It is the fare being served that is the problem. Most of us have had enough I'm afraid. I am not embarking on a 120 mile round trip for the dross we are currently seeing. Sorry chaps
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| I have a season ticket but did not go because I am fed up of how the team play and the club is currently being run. The general consensus is Collis as gone but not a word from the club. They won't play Sammut but once again no reasons are given.
I have read that if we survive this season then things will be better next year but unfortunately they said that last year.
We as supporters have seen season ticket prices increase, whilst the senior age limit is reduced and students are removed. We cannot take drinks into the ground, some areas are cordoned off to supporters and the kick off time was changed to 1500hrs. I like most would probably accept these changes if the product on the field was worth the extra money and inconvenience. It is not so now you could say that the very survival of Wakefield Trinity is on the shoulders of Brian Smith. The tools he is provided with to do this is in the hands of our board who have found it easier to reduce the squad but now they will have to fund suitable replacements.
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| Seems like this lack of a spine is contagious. It's spread from some of the players to some of the fans.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Seems like this lack of a spine is contagious. It's spread from some of the players to some of the fans.'"
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| I have to say that listening to our crowd is sometimes worse than watching the game.... and that's saying something.
So many are revelling in the mistakes and just waiting for something to moan about.
It was good to hear the loud North standers cheering the team early on even when it wasn't going our way.
As a group, like it or not we are going to have to be more supportive of the players if we are going to see progress. Teams definitely respond to the crowd.
I'd love to hear the Wakefield chants going up on Sunday. Salford won't bring many so we need to let them know we are in it together.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Seems like this lack of a spine is contagious. It's spread from some of the players to some of the fans.'"
Customers have a right to stop 'purchasing' rotten goods if they chose.
Hardly spinless.
I admire your loyalty, I really do but 14 straight losses and gutless performances will put people off attending.
I for one, cannot blame anyone for not going to matches at the moment.
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| some substance in the comments made . I haven't been a fan of M C and tend to think that his headmaster attitude does not bode well with some of the fan base. Somethings should remain closed doors and I have no problem with that, because im a supporter it does not give me the right to be informed of every decision the club make. The ones it has made that scarlet talks about have probably cost the club money. I tend to think of a Trinity owner like a landlord of a pub, probably aint gouing to be about for long. I may not like his ownership methods but it will not stop me from going.
Credit to him for the coaching appointment and well done on that front , I think the club needed some one like Brian Smith to not only coach but to advise.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Customers have a right to stop 'purchasing' rotten goods if they chose.
Hardly spinless.
I admire your loyalty, I really do but 14 straight losses and gutless performances will put people off attending.
I for one, cannot blame anyone for not going to matches at the moment.'"
Agreed. Some people who have paid up front have had enough so if you pay on the gate you are seriously going to be thinking is it worth it? Well for the most part this season it hasn't been.
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| Back to the original thread, at the game and on here Tim Smith gets plenty of stick about about his lack if involvement. Well he had a hand in four of the five tries Trinity scored on Sunday. He didn't help himself with his brain fart when he had intercept the ball but if the coach did as many have demanded and left Smith out of the side it would only have a detrimental affect upon the team.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Back to the original thread, at the game and on here Tim Smith gets plenty of stick about about his lack if involvement. Well he had a hand in four of the five tries Trinity scored on Sunday. He didn't help himself with his brain fart when he had intercept the ball but if the coach did as many have demanded and left Smith out of the side it would only have a detrimental affect upon the team.'"
I also think he has tried to step up in defence as well. He's clearly no Washbrook but he is putting a lot more effort in than he used to.
I also liked the way, after his mistake, he was trying to tackle everybody in the next plays to make up for the mistake. That attitude is needed across the board.
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| For me Tim Smith would be the 1st name on the team sheet. He can't be faulted for effort and energy and enthusiastic celebration when moves come off. He is genuinely hurt when he cocks up and must be mentally as well as physically drained at the end of each game. We just need some more enthusiasm around him.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"For me Tim Smith would be the 1st name on the team sheet. He can't be faulted for effort and energy and enthusiastic celebration when moves come off. He is genuinely hurt when he cocks up and must be mentally as well as physically drained at the end of each game. We just need some more enthusiasm around him.'"
I agree
The mistake at the weekend looked terrible but he'd done a great thing by making the interception, drew the players towards him and should have been able to look round and pick from at 3 runners charging up.......just like Leeds did in similar situation.
Of course he shouldn't have passed the ball but he saw Kirmond coming but he was behind him and if the pass had gone to hand he would have been motoring down field.
and like I said, he worked his off to try and correct the issue.
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| The thing with Tim Smith is the majority of players around him aren't good enough to keep up. When he makes a mistake it looks like a howler, the truth is in a top team those 'risky' passes would be caught by players backing up and in position who are reading the game like Smith does.
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| Got a lot of sympathy for Tim Smith, he can't do much unless others around him are giving him plenty of options. However, he is suffering from the same sloppy unprofessional malaise that all of them appear to have. He had his back to play at the second half kick off, Leeds spotted him and kicked directly to him and when he turned round he wasn't in a position to catch the ball.
This kind of sloppyness shouldn't be difficult to eliminate but it is quite ingrained in the team at the moment.
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| Start with a new captain. Someone who speaks and leads by example, perhaps we haven't signed him yet?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Start with a new captain. Someone who speaks and leads by example, perhaps we haven't signed him yet?'"
I do believe that we desperately need a proper leader - someone in the mould of Matt Fuller would do!!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have a season ticket but did not go because I am fed up of how the team play and the club is currently being run. The general consensus is Collis as gone but not a word from the club. They won't play Sammut but once again no reasons are given.
I have read that if we survive this season then things will be better next year but unfortunately they said that last year.
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| Quote ="Smew"I do believe that we desperately need a proper leader - someone in the mould of Matt Fuller would do!!'"
I agree, but there is a risk of bringing someone new in and asking everyone to follow him without question. It takes time to build that relationship.
I guess it will depend on the person
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"For me Tim Smith would be the 1st name on the team sheet. He can't be faulted for effort and energy and enthusiastic celebration when moves come off. He is genuinely hurt when he cocks up and must be mentally as well as physically drained at the end of each game. We just need some more enthusiasm around him.'"
How naive are some fans?. Pointing and tapping people does not make someone have great effort. I would rather see him showing effort by bending his back making some tackles,taking the line on more etc. Brough did the pointing etc but he actually did the work Smith doesnt! Naive at its best (fooled) by artificial actions.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How naive are some fans?. Pointing and tapping people does not make someone have great effort. I would rather see him showing effort by bending his back making some tackles,taking the line on more etc. Brough did the pointing etc but he actually did the work Smith doesnt! Naive at its best (fooled) by artificial actions.'"
You just see what you want to see and nothing will change that so there is no point explaining but you are wrong.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How naive are some fans?. Pointing and tapping people does not make someone have great effort. I would rather see him showing effort by bending his back making some tackles,taking the line on more etc. Brough did the pointing etc but he actually did the work Smith doesnt! Naive at its best (fooled) by artificial actions.'"
He had a hand in four of the five tries Trinity scored. Fact!
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