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| I was told this morning from a usually reliable source, that Trinity have submitted an updated application for the East Stand. The hospitality boxes to run full length of the stand, instead of just the centre section. Apparently there is some information on the Facebook red white blue army, asking for support, I don’t do Facebook so I can’t check. I’ve checked the planning portal for stadium, but no new documentation on there, so perhaps nothing new just yet.
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| That’s potentially good news. Would add flexibility to future development at the ground aswell. Is that a small hint that the negotiations with York court are looking promising and favourable for us
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I was told this morning from a usually reliable source, that Trinity have submitted an updated application for the East Stand. The hospitality boxes to run full length of the stand, instead of just the centre section. Apparently there is some information on the Facebook red white blue army, asking for support, I don’t do Facebook so I can’t check. I’ve checked the planning portal for stadium, but no new documentation on there, so perhaps nothing new just yet.'"
Your source is correct. Planning soon, build not far after is what I’m told. Of course that comes with plenty of caution but something has happened to giddy up YC, no idea what.
I don’t think the addition of the boxes requires extra support from the fans so long as it sits in the foot print of the initial plans but I may be wrong. I’m sure we will be told if required.
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| An official update when the club are in a position to, would sell a few more season tickets I reckon!
Here’s hoping.
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| Sounds good
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| Quote ="1315trinity"An official update when the club are in a position to, would sell a few more season tickets I reckon!
Here’s hoping.'"
In this case, the official announcement for part one will come from WMDC but yes I agree it all adds to the vibe.
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| Quote ="vastman"In this case, the official announcement for part one will come from WMDC but yes I agree it all adds to the vibe.'"
The next scheduled council planning meeting is October 14th. I seem to recall John Minards saying, he would like trinity fans to support the Plot 8 application, if the enabling funding was agreed and in place before the day of application hearing. Hopefully, we’ll hear something in the next few days.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"The next scheduled council planning meeting is October 14th. I seem to recall John Minards saying, he would like trinity fans to support the Plot 8 application, if the enabling funding was agreed and in place before the day of application hearing. Hopefully, we’ll hear something in the next few days.'"
It won't be that one regarding the stadium hearing, think a few weeks later for that. As for plot 8, I've lost track.
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Looks like there was always room for the extra boxes with the voids.
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| It’s not going to a Salford type stadium is it big stand and 3 very small ?
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| The Salford stadium main stand is 4,500 capacity, we have plans for 2,500 in the east stand so won’t look as extreme as Salford. Remember John mentioning in a Q&A the other main development potential at belle vue would be the south hospitality section where we have space to increase again
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| Quote ="cosmicat"It’s not going to a Salford type stadium is it big stand and 3 very small ?'"
Its just one stand right now.
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| What is the situation regarding the new pitch, is it prior to the new East stand build or after the build?
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| Good point
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| Good point
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| At presentation evening John Minnards said it now looked like November planning meeting
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| Quote ="cosmicat"It’s not going to a Salford type stadium is it big stand and 3 very small ?'"
Flipping he heck the plans have been available for over year, you should know exactly what it is, have you been asleep?
So no it’s not like Salford because that’s all new but would it matter if it was? It’s still way better than what we have now.
As it is it’s one new all singing main stand to replace the east stand and the crumbling terracing on the North stand being relaid with lovely straight and level concrete.
So half the ground being brought up to scratch.
It’s a start.
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| Quote ="phe13"What is the situation regarding the new pitch, is it prior to the new East stand build or after the build?'"
My guess would be after as the pitch could be damaged during the build.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"At presentation evening John Minnards said it now looked like November planning meeting'"
Yup, I think that’s fairly common knowledge. Working on the huge assumption that it passes then the really interesting bit is the build date.
The start date I’ve been given is far sooner than I expected but like everyone else I say that with caution.
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Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement.
There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements,
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Just been having a good look at the latest document on the developers planning application
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary
Open link, tap document top right, click on 10th September, revised planning statement.
There is a comprehensive list of subjects but number 8 to 14 I found very interesting and enlightening. The developers legal team really seems to be pushing the boat out to get their application passed, by using The community Stadium, Wakefield Trinity, the need for sporting facilities, the list is endless, also explaining the enabling development history, 106 agreements,
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| Quote 1.5 - The proposal is directly connected with and will contribute towards financially enabling a proposal for the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium, the home of Wakefield Trinity Rugby League Football Club, south of Wakefield city centre. The proposal will generate finance to support the construction of a new East Stand, refurbish the North Terrace and car parking at Belle Vue together with the refurbishment of an existing building (the Rollin Shack) to provide community facilities. This financial contribution will be secured and delivered via a Section 106 Obligation.'"
Quote 4.2 - Wakefield Trinity Rugby League Footbath Club as is explained in this Planning Statement, wishes to remain at its historical home, Belle Vue rather than occupying a stadium at Newmarket. That decision and the nature of redevelopment proposed at Belle Vue was the subject of extensive engagement activities undertaken by the Club with its supporter base as is described within the Planning Application for the redevelopment of Belle Vue and its supporting documentation. That community engagement informs the nature and scale of the development which is to be enabled by the Planning Application to build employment units on this part of the Newmarket Planning Permission site, as opposed to a community stadium.
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There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.'"
Yep. This is what I was told when I met MC and JM about the leaflet drop (the only time I have) but these things are not my bag and I didn't know how to phrase it correctly so I didn't want to mislead. To a layman like me, that looks very strong but I honestly don't know enough about these things to be 100% certain. Still looks good. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.'"
I’m surprised at the figure of £8.3 million just for the East Stand and North Stand upgrade. Seems at lo to me, but then I’ve not experience of costing building work.
11.7 The financial contribution demonstrated by the viability appraisal to be affordable of £8.3m is sufficient to fund the works at Belle Vue proposed to be undertaken by Newmarket Lane Limited (the works are subject to a planning application which is being concurrently with this application). and hence capable of delivering the financial contribution to the works cost. Newmarket Lane Limited will let the contract for those works and will be the employer under that contract. It is envisaged that the contract will be let in late 2021 with a 12 month construction period. Newmarket Lane Limited and its contractor will be granted a licence by Spirit of 1873 Limited to enter onto the ground at Belle Vue for the purposes of carrying out those works. The Spirit of 1873 Limited will fund and appoint the contractor for carrying out the works that it has identified as carrying out. Between Newmarket Lane Limited and the Spirit of 1873 Limited, the entire works package will be delivered.
Official notification that the club has/will pay for all the other work around the ground.
11.3 The proposed delivery mechanism is via a Section 106 Obligation which Newmarket Lane Limited, the owner and developer of the site at Plot 8 at Newmarket commits to finance and to carry out the redevelopment works at Belle Vue, namely the new East Stand, resurfaced North Stand, car park works and refurbishment of the Rollin Shack building. In conjunction with that, the Spirit of 1873 will upgrade the flood lights, resurface the pitch as a 4G pitch and install a new electronic display screen. Work on the floodlights has already commenced. Heads of Terms for a Section 106 Obligation to secure the construction of the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium are attached at Appendix 2. The works proposed at Belle Vue are set out in paragraph 10.1.1 above.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I’m surprised at the figure of £8.3 million just for the East Stand and North Stand upgrade. Seems at lo to me, but then I’ve not experience of costing building work.
11.7 The financial contribution demonstrated by the viability appraisal to be affordable of £8.3m is sufficient to fund the works at Belle Vue proposed to be undertaken by Newmarket Lane Limited (the works are subject to a planning application which is being concurrently with this application). and hence capable of delivering the financial contribution to the works cost. Newmarket Lane Limited will let the contract for those works and will be the employer under that contract. It is envisaged that the contract will be let in late 2021 with a 12 month construction period. Newmarket Lane Limited and its contractor will be granted a licence by Spirit of 1873 Limited to enter onto the ground at Belle Vue for the purposes of carrying out those works. The Spirit of 1873 Limited will fund and appoint the contractor for carrying out the works that it has identified as carrying out. Between Newmarket Lane Limited and the Spirit of 1873 Limited, the entire works package will be delivered.
Official notification that the club has/will pay for all the other work around the ground.
11.3 The proposed delivery mechanism is via a Section 106 Obligation which Newmarket Lane Limited, the owner and developer of the site at Plot 8 at Newmarket commits to finance and to carry out the redevelopment works at Belle Vue, namely the new East Stand, resurfaced North Stand, car park works and refurbishment of the Rollin Shack building. In conjunction with that, the Spirit of 1873 will upgrade the flood lights, resurface the pitch as a 4G pitch and install a new electronic display screen. Work on the floodlights has already commenced. Heads of Terms for a Section 106 Obligation to secure the construction of the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium are attached at Appendix 2. The works proposed at Belle Vue are set out in paragraph 10.1.1 above.'"
Now, this is something I do get. It's actually quite cheap. The East stand is not just a stand but the hub of the club. It basically contains everything, offices, hospitality, player facilities, corporate. That's a lot of extras on top of the main construction costs. If you knock off 1.3 million for the North stand and car park hen 7 million is not much. I accept the increase in capacity is not huge but that's not really what we need. We currently have a ground that is not as well provisioned facility-wise as Lock Lane ARLFC, so for 7 million, we get catapulted from the 19th century to the 21st in one go.
I think from memory the price for Newmarket was 12 million approx in 2008 but that didn't include infrastructure and that was on a green field site. In today's money and the spec updated you'd be looking at more like 20 million now.
What this does however demonstrate is just how much YC has got away with, we will end up with something but it's still a massive scandal.
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| Wonder what TRB thinks of this deal ?
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