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| Heard news maybe more positive than we're expecting regarding new stadium, maybe not all doom and gloom.
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| Secret discussions are about getting council help to move benidorm flats to open end at Dewsbury
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| What I don't get is this, is BV the oldest RL stadiam in UK maybe the world? If so it has some historical value, maybe even iconic so you would think the RFL would help us, they did Bradford
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| We have let it get into the state it is by not investing in even basis maintenance. We have let it reach the stage where the costs to bring it up to standard is now prohibitive to those in charge and they do not want to spend the money. I guess they prefer to hand the responsibility to the directors of Dewsbury.
I Think they actually need to ask the supporters or at least explain to us why they need to move because they may not like it but they have to take the supporters with them and currently I am not sensing this is the case. It may sound like the most logical thing to do for them but being a Wakefield supporter you are not logical. These decisions cannot keep being made without consultation.
Over to you Jinjer to post that I am once again having a go at the boss. I did note he gave me the options to provide the answers but like 99% of us I don't even know what the questions are.
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| Sorry SP the stadium is crumbling and it's crap hole
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| Scarlet I used to like some of the stuff you used to post but I think you are totally wrong about BV. It needs a little more than investment it needs totally flattening and rebuilding. Its a ground built and designed in the late 1800's and not fit for the present times. Carter Glover etc can't be blamed for not spending a small fortune in a facility they do not own. Give Carter a bit of slack, his hands are tied with BV and Dewsbury is the only way forward as far as things stand. We need BV buying back, plus superbowl, plus about £10M for upgrading. If you think all that is realistic taking into account the track record of Yorkcourt, then by all means have a go at Carter.
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| Does anyone know if MC has asked the RL for help in maintaining the most historic of grounds. If so it is another secret we haven't been trusted with . MC TRB etc treats supporter as if they are children who are not to be trusted. We are expected to just turn up every week wherever he decides to take the club and meekly buy our season tickets shirts pies lottery tickets beer etc and not ask questions. Well someone should tell him this is the entertainment business and the customers needs to be listened to and this customer and many long time supporters like myself will NOT be going to Dewsbury .
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| I admit it is a dump but it has certainly not been helped by the fact that we have spent nothing on it for the last few years. I guess we have hoped that someone would have bailed us out. How do you know Dewsbury is the only way forward in fact how do you know anything because we are always kept in the dark.
I don't know what H&S require us to do or the cost do you, if so please enlighten the rest of us. All I know is that those in charge want to move to Dewsbury to relieve themselves of any further responsibility.
Today we would have lost the revenue from over 1300 supporters but if there is no other option please have the decency to explain to us why.
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| Belle Vue is unfit for purpose and I would go as far as saying unsafe for modern day sporting stadia I understand MC stance on this as I wouldn't want it on my guilt if anything happened. I don't take the kids to matches were there's going to be a big away following and that's wrong for the club and the kids. Is Belle Vue better than Dewsbury? Dewsbury would be easier to manage but it have to be short term I love our City and our club and it needs to be in the City.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Does anyone know if MC has asked the RL for help in maintaining the most historic of grounds. If so it is another secret we haven't been trusted with . MC TRB etc treats supporter as if they are children who are not to be trusted. We are expected to just turn up every week wherever he decides to take the club and meekly buy our season tickets shirts pies lottery tickets beer etc and not ask questions. Well someone should tell him this is the entertainment business and the customers needs to be listened to and this customer and many long time supporters like myself will NOT be going to Dewsbury .'"
Would you go to Dewsbury if it was only until new stadium in Wakefield was built?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Would you go to Dewsbury if it was only until new stadium in Wakefield was built?'"
The Answer is yes but thats clearly not the option unless you have your head in the clouds.
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| We have let the ground decay because we thought Yorkcourt and the council were going to gift us a brand new state of the art facility but the economic climate was always against this. We would have had more chance applying to the National Lottery or even the National Trust for money to preserve an ancient monument . In a few years time I can see a mosque being built on Belle Vue and the club will be playing to crowds of 2000 at Dewsbury and unable to spend even half the salary cap. Inevitably the championship will becon and someone will suggest a merger with Dewsbury Rams and Dewsbury Trinity will be born and MC can sleep soundly again .
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| Love this admiration for Belle Vue if every fan had turned up when the modifications were being done then it would have shown how much it means to everyone but no only a handful did and it says a lot when one is 10 years old. The ground is a mess and no one will put money into it I fear that yorkcourt have no intention of doing so its just another stalling tactic from them and I'm fed up of this talks are at a delicate stage.
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| Look everybody just chill may be in the next 3/4 weeks TRB and team will bring us some positive news
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| When are the super 8 fixtures out so we know when & who our last game at Belle Vue will be. Will a final decision on Belle Vue be made by then?
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| Fixtures out Wednesday at launch apparently.
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| The so called Positive news will be we are moving to Dewsbury ' temporarily' whilst discussions on a new ground are finalised . Then once the season tickets have been sold and we have moved the discussions will be put on hold indefinitely.
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| The way certain people are talking it sounds like the ground as become a mess in the last 2 years. The ground was a mess with terraces crumbling etc for years.
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| Quote ="djcool"The way certain people are talking it sounds like the ground as become a mess in the last 2 years. The ground was a mess with terraces crumbling etc for years.'" Correct since my time watching this game the majority of clubs have dumped their grounds for modern stadia. I would also add that most of the grounds dumped were better than Belle Vue. Having said that those other clubs are lucky the reside in reasonable local authorities and not in the fiefdom of box.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"So i've since found out extra info that means revealing it would put the whole deal at risk and as such the future prosperity of the club in doubt. Do you think i should still tell everyone? Call it bottling it if you wish, thats your prerogative, i'm not particularly fussed. I'd rather call it doing the right thing in the hope that Wakefield Trinity can soon finally move forward as we are running out of both chances and time to get something out of this.'"
Sacred cow, don't try and shuffle this into my lap, it was you who threatened to spill the beans (whilst not knowing the full details or repercussions), I just called you out.
The rest of your post stinks of hypocrisy, the reasoning you give above are very similar to TRB's, and he's been roundly criticised by plenty on here.
Others slating TRB should may be have a look at Sacred cow's about turn and realise how sensitive the information can be?
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| Some people know what is going on, some people think they know what is going on, some people know nothing about what is going on but think they should know, and some people know nothing and don’t give a toss. The people that know what is going on cannot tell the people who do not know what is going on, what is going on for confidentiality reasons. The people who think they know what is going on, say they know what is going on and may or may not be correct but don’t say anything. The people who want to know what is going on but don’t know, don’t know whether to believe the people who think they know or not, but do believe the ones who do know, but are frustrated because they can’t tell them. The ones who don’t know anything and don’t give a toss still don’t give a toss. Now the ones who think they know, have now had it confirmed that what they thought they knew is basically correct and have now decided not to tell anyone, which now means they have become one of the ones who do know something but cant reveal it. Some still do not give a toss…
At some point the ones who do know, will reveal all, which then means that everyone will know and some will still not give a toss, some will be happy and some will not.
Is that about the state of it at the moment?
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| Hey, if you want to feel gloomy, go have a look on the Bradford forum. Things are not rosy here, but they are rosier than for a long time. We have uncertainty, that's all, and the internet has bred a need for instant information. We're not going to get it and I'm fine with that.
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| Quote ="Dreadnaught"Some people know what is going on, some people think they know what is going on, some people know nothing about what is going on but think they should know, and some people know nothing and don’t give a toss. The people that know what is going on cannot tell the people who do not know what is going on, what is going on for confidentiality reasons. The people who think they know what is going on, say they know what is going on and may or may not be correct but don’t say anything. The people who want to know what is going on but don’t know, don’t know whether to believe the people who think they know or not, but do believe the ones who do know, but are frustrated because they can’t tell them. The ones who don’t know anything and don’t give a toss still don’t give a toss. Now the ones who think they know, have now had it confirmed that what they thought they knew is basically correct and have now decided not to tell anyone, which now means they have become one of the ones who do know something but cant reveal it. Some still do not give a toss…
At some point the ones who do know, will reveal all, which then means that everyone will know and some will still not give a toss, some will be happy and some will not.
Is that about the state of it at the moment?'"
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Fixtures out Wednesday at launch apparently.'"
We have Catalans, Warrington, and Hull FC at home according to the Yorkshire Post.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Hey, if you want to feel gloomy, go have a look on the Bradford forum. Things are not rosy here, but they are rosier than for a long time. We have uncertainty, that's all, and the internet has bred a need for instant information. We're not going to get it and I'm fine with that.'"
Well said slugger... And yes I've been on their forum, they have more to worry about than us !
I'm chuffed to bits with our season for me now owt else is a bonus
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