Don't get me wrong i don't particulalrly like it myself but i i see the marketing angle with the young ones and i don't see what benefit will be gained by dropping it at this point. It would take an expensive re-branding which we can ill afford and is hardly going to get the lapsed fans flooding through the gate anyway, it would ultimately be a pointless exercise. Leave it as it is for now. As for street cred, Trinity doesn't really do that either so thats a pointless argument and precious few people have much civic pride anymore so they are not going to strut around in wakey gear like i did as a lad whatever badge is on the front.

Not the experience i get and as i said i wish it wasn't so. As for educating them telling them we were a good side forty years ago and done nothing doesn't really wow them to be honest. Maybe a successful side could put the city back on the map but i really don't see it happening in my lifetime without a maeg-rich benefactor who will subsidise everything.

So currently Yorkcourt is the bogeyman but who else can you blame for the last 30 odd years?.

However as you say it might be a blessing having a bad run now and pick up form later on. Win against Halifax and a favourable draw in the next round could work wonders for confidence.

Anthony Wedgewood Benn.

Just on the basis that they presented at last a chance to get out of the mire we are traditionally in, and as far as I understand it, were obliged to do so as the price for getting the development they wanted. What happened in 1980-whatever is irrelevant, that was a change for the here and now.

Personally, I'd rest a lot of players for the cup. Wembley is unlikely. Give them all a few days off after the Leeds game, and get them to report for work rested and fresh and ready for a new start.

Just a question, what kind of mascot would a dreadnought be?

A warship? How cool would that be!!!

Almost as good as Herbie the Hammer was.

You know how to hurt a man

Does it have to be a dreadnought? For example Arsenal have a dinosaur as their mascot, Leeds Utd have a cat of some sorts. By all means keep daddy cool, unfortunately Wildcats is now part of the history of the club.

IMO Wildcats also has a stigma to it due to the various financial implosions that have occurred whilst we have had the moniker. I agree its time to get rid and I don't believe it would have any adverse affect on crowds in the same way as I don't believe the name had any positive effect either.

For me the cat doesn't mean much, neither does the nickname. But we only ever talk about it when the team is doing badly or we have financial issues.
That means to me, it isn't so bad, just a target when needed.
Ronnie and Bullman are just as good/bad but are associated with success. If we were better on the field everyone would love the mascot.
I've seen plenty saying how great it is when we do well. The Liam Kaye Cas game springs to mind.

The character is good fun, the name is terrible, as it was in 2004, 2008, 2009 and 2012 (for seven games at least). I think this has all stemmed from a poster saying he would get rid of the name Trinity to move with the times.

Even sadder than I realised it could ever be. It is very hard now to see how Wakefield can survive at all.
Save for a madman/woman with believes in miracles, and has money to burn, it is possible that we are seeing the
beginning of the end now. R.I.P. ?

Now the new/refurbished ground looks dead in the water, what hope is left?

Jeez, you're a right little ray of sunshine.

How SAD can we get?

Like me ,you and the rest keep coming on here I suppose

EXCELLENT.

See that key that says caps lock ?

ive been a saints speccy for a good number of years now...and i really feel sorry for all you wakey fans..ive been at belle vue watching sides which contained wally lewis..(the late) david topliss..etc..and always had a great deal of friendly banter at knowsley road and langtree park with you lot!..it saddnes me to see the state your club is in at this present time..promise of a new ground seems to be falling through ..how unfair is that then?..you lot deserve more and with not having as much revenue as some other clubs.(which includes my club saints)..you just cant get the players that the richer clubs get..it seems your bad luck as come all at once..and i hope you get through the next stage of the challenge cup..heres hoping things get better for you this season and next!

Absolutely correct. I started going aged 8 in 1971. There was a level of expectancy that stayed with the club for maybe 10 years but a series of administrations that were completely incompetent and showed no foresight has destroyed us. Only David Garthwaite had any vision when he wanted to move us out of Belle Vue to a new stadium around 1980. As I recall, it was the fans who rejected that. If only we had listened. From sacking Ray Batten's assistant Alan Hardisty when we had nearly won the championship, to consistently overspending on many a player not worth it and many other dreadful decisions, w have limped along till we have gone off the radar of many people. I would say that if we had a decent ground and team and with the away support that often seems to come to a game with a competitive Trinity, we could expect gates on which we could compete, but it's not gonna happen with this rubbish being churned out. It is very sad. The name Wakefield Trinity is synonymous with the game and to see it on it's knees makes my heart heavy

Thanks for the kind words Sir

Absolutely. WMDC have been about as passive as they could get away with and we all know Box's allegiances. It has been glaringly obvious to me that there is no political will for Trinity to have a new ground but you can bet your last quid that Castleford will be well backed by the same authority

BOX - The unacceptable face of socialism and Castleford.

Worst thing that ever happened to the CITY of Wakefield was being amalgamated with surrounding districts and then being swamped by them.
And yes , Charlie63 we all know the real reason for the reluctance of our abhorrent council to get behind a team the CITY was once proud of!