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| Quote ="bren2k"A bit like your hastily deleted response? Seriously, amongst some really stiff competition, you're just about the worst Cas troll that frequents this place. I usually charge for this sort of stuff, but I'll give you a bit of advice for free - slink off back to the Cas board and see if it's possible to get a slap on the back from some of the regulars there; it will do your self-esteem the world of good.
Back to the game - having now watched the recording, I was really impressed by Dale Morton's performance. If he continues to play like that into next season, we could have a real live-wire on our hands. Also thought P Johnson was outstanding - is he staying with us?'"
So on the Wakefield forum anyone with a differing opinion is a Troll,and keep your advice,after seeing the way you are frequently handed your bottom on other forums I feel you may need to heed it yourself.
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| I was waiting for a MotM thread but I'll add to this. Agreed that Paul Johnson deserved our award.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I/ was waiting for a MotM thread but I'll add to this. Agreed that Paul Johnson deserved our award.'"
Is he on loan or contracted to WTW ?
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| Out if interest, it matters not if Owen had a foot in touch before the penalty to Cas. In RL, penalties are given for foul play (high tackle on Owen) even if the ball is dead. In this instance, the foul play over-ruled the tehnicality of Owen going into touch, so therefore a correct decision was a penalty to Castleford.
Sorry, you'll need to find another excuse.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Out if interest, it matters not if Owen had a foot in touch before the penalty to Cas. In RL, penalties are given for foul play (high tackle on Owen) even if the ball is dead. In this instance, the foul play over-ruled the tehnicality of Owen going into touch, so therefore a correct decision was a penalty to Castleford.
Sorry, you'll need to find another excuse.'"
Had the touch judge been quick enough with the flag then there would have been no need for Semi to make the next tackle.
Sorry, you must try harder.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Out if interest, it matters not if Owen had a foot in touch before the penalty to Cas. In RL, penalties are given for foul play (high tackle on Owen) even if the ball is dead. In this instance, the foul play over-ruled the tehnicality of Owen going into touch, so therefore a correct decision was a penalty to Castleford.
Sorry, you'll need to find another excuse.'"
It wasn't even a high tackle he fell into his arm
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| Quote ="Schunter"It wasn't even a high tackle he fell into his arm'"
That’s my take on it. Owen stumbles as Tadulala is executing a tackle. Had Owen stayed on his feet the tackle would’ve been around the chest/waist.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Had the touch judge been quick enough with the flag then there would have been no need for Semi to make the next tackle.
Sorry, you must try harder.'"
Tadulala was well and truly committed to the tackle as Owen's foot went into touch, the TJ raising his flag would have made no difference.
On the topic of the tackle being a penalty there was clearly contact with the head. Technically, it doesn't matter whether Owen was 'ducking' or not, contact with the head is a penalty. It's like saying you can't give a penalty for a high tackle on Rob Burrow because he is only four-feet tall.
It was technically and clearly the correct decision.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Tadulala was well and truly committed to the tackle as Owen's foot went into touch, the TJ raising his flag would have made no difference.
On the topic of the tackle being a penalty there was clearly contact with the head. Technically, it doesn't matter whether Owen was 'ducking' or not, contact with the head is a penalty. It's like saying you can't give a penalty for a high tackle on Rob Burrow because he is only four-feet tall.
It was technically and clearly the correct decision.'"
In your opinion. Which I disagree with
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| I'd like to swallow my pride and say a massive well done to Dale Morton, the way he runs it into the line demands an 18 certificate. Forwards take note!
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"I'd like to swallow my pride and say a massive well done to Dale Morton, the way he runs it into the line demands an 18 certificate. Forwards take note!'"
I was very impressed with Paul Johnson.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"I'd like to swallow my pride and say a massive well done to Dale Morton'"
As I doubt you have any pride that should be an easy task.
Perhaps you could try swallowing your fingers? That would be more preferrable ....
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Tadulala was well and truly committed to the tackle as Owen's foot went into touch, the TJ raising his flag would have made no difference.
On the topic of the tackle being a penalty there was clearly contact with the head. Technically, it doesn't matter whether Owen was 'ducking' or not, contact with the head is a penalty. It's like saying you can't give a penalty for a high tackle on Rob Burrow because he is only four-feet tall.
It was technically and clearly the correct decision.'"
Surly it’s relative to the ball carrier? If a player cops one around the head as he’s up right then this is foul play, if he cops one at chest/waist height as he stumbles into a tackle this is an accident, no foul play to penalise.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Surly it’s relative to the ball carrier? If a player cops one around the head as he’s up right then this is foul play, if he cops one at chest/waist height as he stumbles into a tackle this is an accident, no foul play to penalise.'"
Not technically, no. The foul play is "contact with the neck or head", regardless of the ball-carriers body position.
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| Quote ="007"So on the Wakefield forum anyone with a differing opinion is a Troll,and keep your advice,after seeing the way you are frequently handed your bottom on other forums I feel you may need to heed it yourself.'"
No, it's not the differing opinions that make you a troll, it's the pathetic wind-up attempts, and you're one of the most inept proponents of that particular art.
As for your comments about my bottom - you're mistaking me with someone else; it's never happened and it never will.
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| Quote ="bren2k"No, it's not the differing opinions that make you a troll, it's the pathetic wind-up attempts, and you're one of the most inept proponents of that particular art.
As for your comments about my bottom - you're mistaking me with someone else; it's never happened and it never will.'"
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| Quote ="Wildthing"As I doubt you have any pride that should be an easy task.
Perhaps you could try swallowing your fingers? That would be more preferrable ....'" I was doing that during the match when the nails ran out...
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| Have to say after watching the game on TV because could not get to the game, I thought Wakefield were unlucky on the night and as I watched them take a 12 nil lead after 3 minutes I was worried for Cas.
On reflection I have to agree with the poster who said a draw would have been a good result.
If you can get Tongia to hold the ball in both hands and not at arms length, then I think you will have a useful fullback for next season. Is Henderson signed on for you guys next year as well. Think with him and Rinaldi along with Morrison you have some good experienced players to help with the youth development.
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| Forgot to mention Tongia - yes he made one howler, but I thought he defended well and looked really lively with ball in hand; with a good off-season, I'm convinced he'll offer something at FB that we haven't seen at WTW for quite some time.
I predict however that he'll be one of those players who goes from hero to zero on a weekly basis, given his unpredictability and willingness to take risks.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Forgot to mention Tongia - yes he made one howler, but I thought he defended well and looked really lively with ball in hand; with a good off-season, I'm convinced he'll offer something at FB that we haven't seen at WTW for quite some time.
I predict however that he'll be one of those players who goes from hero to zero on a weekly basis, given his unpredictability and willingness to take risks.'" Probably guilty of trying too hard but he's definitely worth a look pre-season, give him a couple of friendlies to settle down in. Certainly exciting to watch though hard on the heart.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Not technically, no. The foul play is "contact with the neck or head", regardless of the ball-carriers body position.'"
Are you a politician 'cos you're very good at being "economical with the truth"?
I think the words that you inadvertently left out of your definition are, ..."makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionaly. carelessley or recklessly"
Semi's challenge might have been high but was neither intentional, nor reckless nor careless. For what it's worth it was also a powder puff of a clip that even I would have survived without too much effect.
The linesman and ref made mistakes that led to your try. You got the rub of the green on this occasion and I'm cool with that - it happens in all games to all teams (it even happened to us once in 2002 I think it was ). I can live with the fact that we lost - I was pleased with the way we played but I thought you (well, Chase) played slightly better. I guess, as always, that we'll all have to agree to differ over the incident but please just accept you were lucky, you got away with it and came away witht he points.
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| Okay, we were lucky. Maybe a draw would have been a fair result.
I still think the penalty was correct, Tadulala made contact with Owen's head/neck (carelessley IMO) but it was contact with the head, and therefore a penalty (which over-rides Owen going into touch).
I also think we were lucky to keep McGoldrick on the field after his 'DDT' tackle, how he has not got a ban I don't know.
Good game, and proof that SL is better with both teams involved.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Okay, we were lucky. Maybe a draw would have been a fair result.
I still think the penalty was correct, Tadulala made contact with Owen's head/neck (carelessley IMO) but it was contact with the head, and therefore a penalty (which over-rides Owen going into touch).
I also think we were lucky to keep McGoldrick on the field after his 'DDT' tackle, how he has not got a ban I don't know.
Good game, and proof that SL is better with both teams involved.'"
A very sensible overview - you might want to share it with some of your slightly more rabid friends over on the Cas board.
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| Quote ="bren2k"A very sensible overview - you might want to share it with some of your slightly more rabid friends over on the Cas board.'"
Every club needs a few rabid fans!
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Every club needs a few rabid fans!'"
Especially Warrington
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