A: Don't know. But it's plausible. A team with an average gate of 6,000. It's own support staff, facilities and offices. Playing in your off season. Only someone very blinkered wouldn't see the attractions for both clubs. The only real issue would be the cost.

B: Why is it an attempt to exploit franchise, why would the RFL care, Oakwell is a first class stadium about 6 miles as the crow flies from BV (a criteria as it happens). We could move there permanently and the RFL would be happy, a real foothold in S Yorks! The only folk with egg on it's face would be WMDC having to watch it's premier club and namesake playing in a different MDC, that would take some explaining.

C: So theoretically we have a plan B. If we dig our heals in and scupper Glasshoughton do you? I don't see it at the moment so I'd tread carefully and not p*ss Wakey fans off too much though in fairness I don't think that is your aim.

It's all theoretical and I really hope no one is forced down a road they don't want to travel. One thing is certain IMO and that is Wakefield wouldn't survive a season at Glasshoughton. Cas could make a home at Newmarket if they embraced it but you have the wrong man running the club for that. I accept you might not agree with my last statement and feel Newmarket would destroy Cas.

Just as a matter of interest. Had Cas come up with the Newmarket scheme as their own with no ground share and wholly owned by them would you accept it. Is it the share or the location (considering it's almost exactly midway between both existing grounds) that bothers you. For us it's both as Glasshoughton is miles away from and is in Cas (about 2 miles from the existing ground). Surely you have to accept that although neither share is ideal the Glasshoughton option offers us a far sh*ttier and of the stick than Newmarket offers you?

There's a massive difference. Saints are playing there for a year until their ground gets built. You're on about playing at Oakwell for the entire three-year period aren't you?

That would be your truth, you being a member of the board at Barnsley, Wakefield, the RFL and Yorkcourt. These just being a few of the positions you'd need to hold for your version of the truth to have any validity. Back to Fev village for you.

No. It's out of Cas. If it hadn't been in Glasshoughton, it would have been Whitwood. Anywhere outside is not good enough for me. Most definitely location.

I wouldn't be bothered about a share as long as it was in Glasshoughton or Normanton. And I disagree with your last sentence too. Newmarket offers us sod all. We've spent a lot of money on GH, you haven't at Newmarket. There's nothing there for Cas fans that Glasshoughton doesn't offer us.

For so long, Wakefield fans have bleated about how Cas is part of Wakefield. Having a stadium in Castleford is still part of Wakefield under that ethos. It gives us a foothold to target and market the club to new fans in a different area and also take away fans from your rivals? You will be playing in a premier sporting facility in a premier location. Glasshoughton offers you more benefits, IMO. I think you're just stubborn to see/admit it. Even some of your own fans have admitted it is better.

Actually the best option is probably normanton with all 3 teams playing from it!!

boy thats going to take some ego deflations though!

oh no hang on, sorry forget that, Calder time!

Dont think Barnsley would be feasibile unless building work at Newmarket had started and it was for a very short period of time. WTW will not move into a joint project at Glasshoughton and ground share. It just is not feasible and will not happen unless one other thing happens..... merging.

Both clubs are going to have to give in to something v.soon and the only one I think will be a merger and we both play out of one. As both clubs are under the same council and seem to be reliant on them it isnt sustainable for 1 club to get the stadium in their city/town and then the other have to play out of it.

However, if this was to be the case Newmarket is the fairest option for distances etc for both sets of supporters who will both then keep their identity although I dont think this will happen.

On the other hand, if Glasshoughton was built then it may mean Cas may have to lose their identity as it will end up with a merger between the two clubs.

It would surely be suicide for WMDC to lose WTW of anything with the name Wakefield in it which is why I think Glasshoughton could be the favourite to be built if a merger can be swallowed between the 2 clubs and fans. I then think the name of the new club will eventually over time have Wakefield in it somewhere (a bit like shudders and sheff).

Glasshoughton is a very good site - I dont think anyone is denying that - if it were to get the go-ahead though with both clubs then merger is almost definate and we both lose our beloved clubs yet we have a new club with a new name (not even going to suggest one now).

where can i get a bet on no wakefield district club getting a sl franchise next time?

This is a total farce, and frankly both sets of fans should come together on sunday and show we are not just petty squabbling kids, heaven forbid some idiots blowing up over this!

The logic is brilliant. We won't play at Glasshoughton cos it's not Wakefield, yet we're happy to potter along to Oakwell, which, when I went there last, was in Barnsley. Where public transport links between the two are pricey trains or buses where you have to change in Royston on a Sunday...

As for 'the council should build a stadium' - wouldn't you be upset, as a non-fan, for millions to be spent on a massive facility where for 340+ days the main part of it is empty? The new market is a convienient place to slag off, yet the old market was rubbish, and mainly empty apart from a Sunday! Wouldn't you build something to match the demand for it?

Hallelujah - someone with common sense. And if Wakefield fans are that upset coming to Glasshoughton, I'll drive myself to Wakey, pick three of you up and bring you to Glasshoughton (for a small nominal fee*)

We won't play at Glasshoughton because we would end up merged or broke, so we risk Oakwell (and maybe still end up broke) untill Newmarket is ready (if thats still possible) thats the logic.

We give ourselves every chance to remain Wakefield trinity wildcats or go belly up trying, or we could just roll over if you would prefer.

=#8040FFWhy?

Nobody could FORCE the teams to merge, the RFL can ask & offer money, but nor force it. Both teams would still be given a lot of money from Sky per year and I'd bet Wakeys grounds would go UP at Glasshoughton because there would be more travelling fans.

At Oakwell you'd lose a franchise criteria point on the 40% full ruling because it holds over 20,000, at Glasshoughton you wouldn't because it would hold 15,000.

Afraid to say it but Oakwell still is in Barnsley, the good thing is that although the stagecoach buses from Barnsley terminate at Royston, the Arriva buses from Wakefield do go to Barnsley and back which is not quite what you said. Also there are decent rail links from Kirkgate Station to Barnsley and I am not sure but suspect they would be no more expensive than going to GH. Personally I would go to Oakwell but GH never.

Not anymore. They stopped the 444 direct bus to Barnsley (which didn't run on Sundays anyway) and replaced it with a non-Arriva service thus doubling the cost. Trust me, I work there and Arrivas decision has cost me a fortune.

You really believe thats the case, they could and they will, i aint willing to take that chance.

Thats a fair point.

From Wakefield's perspective we should dismiss GH straight away. Forget it, be strong and get on with NM regardless of the pressure being exerted. If/when NM gets delayed then we should look at playing at viable stadiums in the near vicinity with the exception of GH (if built). If that means the club being demoted in the near future then so be it, but NM should be our future home which will secure our survival.

I have no bad will to Cas but first and foremost this is about Wakefield and Newmarket. Glass houghton plays no part in our future

its a pity we cant decide this all by who wins on sunday - now that would add some spice to the game!!!

***apologies for mentioning rugby***

I would not want to watch Wakefield in NL1 with NO prospect of coming back into SL. There is no way that if Wakey lost their franchise (and Cas retained theirs) that we would get back into SL - EVER. If you want to watch lower level rugby in perpetuity then do it but I would not have a problem with supporting a vibrant and strong merged team competing with the other big boys.

If I were the owners of Xscape or the retail outlet the last thing I would want is a set of people with recognised anger management problems (chucking bottles at officials? Abuse of minorities?) turning up every other week and frightening the customers. Far better that they are coralled off on an industrial estate well away from such facilities.

There will be a £60 fine for fans using the 'Xscape' and 'Area51 shopping outlet' car parks for the Rugby.

Me too and I've been watching Trinity for almost 50 years.

I'd rather watch a merged team playing SL than NL with no prospect of ever getting back into SL.

I'd even be happy to play at Glasshoughton - Wakefield Tigers playing in Castleford - hows that for a compromise.

Quite the opposite, WMDC didn't want to accept the responsibility of maintaining the ground any longer. Trinity were happy to take this on & given the immediate running costs that the club would incur a sale price was agreed of a nominal £1.

Yes but your logic is poor

1. There is another SL club over in Glasshoughton area. The public over there alrready follow that side.
Last I heard there is no RL in Barnsley so at least there is a chance of picking up some local support.

2. There is no stadium at Glasshoughton as far as I can remember and no evidence to suggest there will be one soon. Last I heard there was a very good stadium already built in Barnsley.