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| Does this news from cas not put us back in the running?If we can get into Oakwell this would be one of the best stadiums in sl and if we get something positive about the PI before then it must give us hope.We beat cas in the community and junior development boxes with the success of the academy team over the last few years and financially with AG running the club are financially stable,just the admin which is letting us down,RW never goes public with finances so who knows they may be up the creek,unless somebody can prove otherwise.
Seems that RW is again trying to pull the wool and make it all look rosy but he never gives any proof of having the funding,but I may be wrong.
All this said I still WANT both of us to stat in sl and get rid of the welsh and quins but we all know this is not going to happen.
So heres hoping for both clubs 
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| I think RW latest comments at the supporters meeting last night proves he is not trying to pull the wool, its testing times for all teams and nobody especially Cas and Wakey can be too confident. ATEOTD if we are in SL come the start of next season the great but if not then still its great for me because il still get to watch my team play rugby, whether it be DW stadium, Leight Sports Village or up at Crigg, i would still be there to support Cas Tigers.
The very best of luck to Wakey
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"There is no reason as to why we won't get a franchise for the next few years.'"
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| Quote ="stantrin"Facilities.'"
oh god yes not noticed that , You win.
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| Quote ="stantrin"Facilities.'"
What about yours ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What about yours ?'"
I think the majority of us have accepted our fate,so ours don't really come into the arguement. 
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| Quote ="JINJER"I think the majority of us have accepted our fate,so ours don't really come into the arguement.
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Just asking stantrin what he thought too. Did you ever go to the toilets at Thrum Hall ? They had no roof which was a shock.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What about yours ?'"
If the club are still in SL next year Oakwell.
Still it will take a monumental cock up for Castleford to lose their license now.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"If the club are still in SL next year Oakwell.
Still it will take a monumental cock up for Castleford to lose their license now.'"
What was that I read on here that Barnsley wanted £30,000 for Wakefield playing there ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What was that I read on here that Barnsley wanted £30,000 for Wakefield playing there ?'"
Guess the lesson is, don't believe the tripe you read on here!
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What was that I read on here that Barnsley wanted £30,000 for Wakefield playing there ?'"
A Leeds supporter posted had heard that Barnsley wanted £30k a game. Could be true, could be false. Chances are we'll never find out.
Still that annual rent could be covered by 2000 adult season ticket holders.
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From the Approved Travel Plan.
"3.3 Public Transport
3.3.8 At present the rail station is under-served by services. This is recognised by Metro who have announced their intention to increase service provision at this station in the mid-term: with further service increases forecast for the longer term. The demand created by the Business Park should assist with Metro's business model."
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"3.3 Public Transport
3.3.8 At present the rail station is under-served by services. This is recognised by Metro who have announced their intention to increase service provision at this station in the mid-term: with further service increases forecast for the longer term. The demand created by the Business Park should assist with Metro's business model."
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What about yours ?'"
we have the greenest user friendly score board in the country , energy efficient AAA
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| Quote ="bigalf"From the Approved Travel Plan.
"3.3 Public Transport
3.3.8 At present the rail station is under-served by services. This is recognised by Metro who have announced their intention to increase service provision at this station in the =#FF0000mid-term: with further service increases forecast for the =#FF0000longer term. The demand created by the Business Park should assist with Metro's business model."'"
Not really a concrete time scale is it?
Quote Dead Man Walking wrote Did you ever go to the toilets at Thrum Hall?
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Not really relevant, besides where you chose to spend your free time is not really a forum discussion is it?
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| It's interesting to note that this discussion is not descending into the usual silliness - is Speedy banned from posting here?
Either way, it's a crappy situation to be in for both sets of fans and I wouldn't wish it on anyone; I hope Cas get their stadium, and start losing a few games. 
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"What was that I read on here that Barnsley wanted £30,000 for Wakefield playing there ?'"
So? How much do you think it costs Cas to get a game on in your dump of a stadium - no offense. Adding in rates, utility bills, ground staff, match day staff, insurances and others I bet it costs at least 30k a game averaged over a year if not more. At least for our 30k we get a modern (3 sides) all seater stadium and not the sheds we both now inhabit.
I don't know the figure but if it's 30k a game ( or £480k a year approx) I'd bite their hand off, I'd have thought it would be more.. Full board and lodging for roughly 1/3 of your income, you can live on that.
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| Quote ="dboy"Guess the lesson is, don't believe the tripe you read on here!'"
Doubt it's tripe TBH in this case, that's a pretty fair rent but I still hope we have got it cheaper.
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| Quote ="vastman"Doubt it's tripe TBH in this case, that's a pretty fair rent but I still hope we have got it cheaper.'"
No the point is the poster who suggested 30k was guessing/hacking 3rd hand information. 30k may be exactly the amount charged, but you shouldn't believe that on the strength of a posting on RLfans!
"Tripe" referred to all manner of "knowledge" spouted on here - in fact there is so much rubbish that when someone does post something factual e.g. possibly a 30k rent at Oakwell, it is hard to know.
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| Quote ="dboy"No the point is the poster who suggested 30k was guessing/hacking 3rd hand information. 30k may be exactly the amount charged, but you shouldn't believe that on the strength of a posting on RLfans!
"Tripe" referred to all manner of "knowledge" spouted on here - in fact there is so much rubbish that when someone does post something factual e.g. possibly a 30k rent at Oakwell, it is hard to know.'"
Agreed on that one. I was just applying logic to the 30k figure and I did admit not knowing.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It's interesting to note that this discussion is not descending into the usual silliness '"
That makes a change.
Quote ="vastman" your dump of a stadium - no offense. '"
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| CTSC meeting update:
1) We are looking at signings for next years team and will be dealing with players coming out of contract soon (they are on with Chubbs)
2) The ground should get FPP probably in the council meeting mid to late April (was going to be early April but with the xscape parking issue, it'll have to be put back - but no issues we are proving the amount we need to)
3) We will not be starting the build probably this year due to financial restraints, the ground old sale is causing this. We are trying to get a better price so that we can go forward into the new stadium carrying no massive debts and thus look after the club for the future.
4) There will be a major announcement in the next 2-3 weeks which will set everybody's mind at rest (no panicking yet please)
5) The licence application will be submitted and it has 2 parts, situation now with crowds, money, ground etc... But also future planning for the next application period. This will mean that it will be looked at in regards the stadium being built (the information we put in will be looked at by a seperate company brought in by the RFL, so it cannot be a bag of lies (Thornes park anyone?) it must be solid facts with finance in place, clubs have to have FPP at least also)
6) The club are looking for advice/help in regards to new media and how to harness it. So anybody who can help with Facebook, twitter and the like get in touch.
7) Mr Nahaboo is getting really behind Cas and we are trying to involve him more. The RFL like the man and he backs CAS. We are trying to get him to more games as he is raising our profile.
8 ) The club are rightly a bit concerned about the Crusaders match and hope fans can stop any problems (it takes only a mindless few to give us a licence headache)
9) The floodlight problem was not just bulbs but the controller at the base, this has been fixed at a considerable cost ( please bring suncream and shades on Saturday nite!)
10) It was asked what we are doing in regards a new coach for next term as TM has stated in the press he wants to return home, well it is assured we will have the best coach available to take us further.
11) Pro-ground letters/e-mails need to be sent to the council before the end of March.
Well thats as much as I can remember, nothing controversial or mind blowing. But remember point 4!!!
not my words but some food for thought from last nights supports club meeting.
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| If I were a Cas fan No.3 would cause me to lose sleep!
If Castleford don't start construction within the 1st qtr of 2012 they won't be out of Wheldon Rd for the start of the 2013 season either.
There's no indication from the BoD at Cas as to when they will have the finances together and if they're waiting for the economy to recover before selling WR they might not start to build the new stadium for 2 or 3 years yet.
If that were the case and with Wakefield moving to Oakwell and with a decision from the PI expected to be under 12 months away that would move Wakefield ahead of Cas IMO.
If the RFL via their independent auditors, take the view that Castlefords new stadium is at least 2 years away they may favour Trinity at Oakwell over Cas at WR.
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| Quote ="The Clan"If I were a Cas fan No.3 would cause me to lose sleep!
If Castleford don't start construction within the 1st qtr of 2012 they won't be out of Wheldon Rd for the start of the 2013 season either.
There's no indication from the BoD at Cas as to when they will have the finances together and if they're waiting for the economy to recover before selling WR they might not start to build the new stadium for 2 or 3 years yet.
If that were the case and with Wakefield moving to Oakwell and with a decision from the PI expected to be under 12 months away that would move Wakefield ahead of Cas IMO.
If the RFL via their independent auditors, take the view that Castlefords new stadium is at least 2 years away they may favour Trinity at Oakwell over Cas at WR.'"
its open to interpretation,my take on it is that in november this year the current sale with ben bailey homes is nill and void and leaves the club open to get a better price than the original deal.this isnt new news and ever since newmarket was put back this was on the agenda from cas has the need to build has quickly diminished giving the club time rather than rushing things for the sake of it.
the part where it states that only clubs with fpp accepted will be able to use it has part of their franchise application is the most interesting bit and that answers why cas put in fpp now when their not ready to construct until 2012.that kind of ticks a box that wakefield cannot and is a very shrewd move imo.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"its open to interpretation,my take on it is that in november this year the current sale with ben bailey homes is nill and void and leaves the club open to get a better price than the original deal.this isnt new news and ever since newmarket was put back this was on the agenda from cas has the need to build has quickly diminished giving the club time rather than rushing things for the sake of it.
[uthe part where it states that only clubs with fpp accepted will be able to use it has part of their franchise application is the most interesting bit and that answers why cas put in fpp now when their not ready to construct until 2012.that kind of ticks a box that wakefield cannot and is a very shrewd move imo[/u.'"
I hear what you are saying but having plans and having the money to build are miles apart, IMO the RFL know we have funds and when we get permission we will build. So we both have "half the deal" and one without the others useless.
Anyway we'll see how it all pans out brayton.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"its open to interpretation,my take on it is that in november this year the current sale with ben bailey homes is nill and void and leaves the club open to get a better price than the original deal.this isnt new news and ever since newmarket was put back this was on the agenda from cas has the need to build has quickly diminished giving the club time rather than rushing things for the sake of it.
the part where it states that only clubs with fpp accepted will be able to use it has part of their franchise application is the most interesting bit and that answers why cas put in fpp now when their not ready to construct until 2012.that kind of ticks a box that wakefield cannot and is a very shrewd move imo.'"
But Ben Bailey Homes is a business. If the value of WR is potentially more than the deal they have in place - they will see the deal through and pocket the difference themselves. If the value of WR is worth less than the deal they have - they will walk away from it, including any deposit paid.
Of course the other option is that the value of the land does increase and BBH don't have the cash to stump up for it, or they feel that PP is so far down the line that it's not worth tying the cash up - which is the only case where I can see Cas being better off than they are now, and even then, the timescales involved may not be in their favour.
It's all still a long way from settled!
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