There are loads of Cas players who don't progress.

People have said the same about every Wakefield coach when we lose and especially when we lose to Cas.
It's no more true after a loss than Chester being a super coach after we win.

Kear used to get loads of stick on here but now it's Chester's turn so the same people want Kear to come back and fix everything.

At the end of the day we were playing with a debutant who had two trainng sessions, a kid who's only played one first team game before and not played at all since at least March, a fullback on the wing, a half back who although athletic with many skills no other club wanted to play at halfback...... Against a guy who played State of Origin a year ago and has played for Australia, a well sought after scrum half, a dual code international who is renowned as being one of the very best at what he does and an international Hooker with a couple of grand final and challenge cup wins to his name
And we were in the game.

To pick a team up who is busted and been beaten by a massive margin a week earlier is also a coaches job. It was always going to be tough but we improved which is what I ask of the coach.

If the club does decide to stick with him and that does seem the case certainly for this year he needs a mcdermott or kear to help him out for sure

The thing with Chester now for me is, I just don't get where he is coming from as re. selections and where HE sees the best way forward? There seems to be too many contradictions in what he is saying then what he actually does! Take yesterday, he has Jowitt, Hampshire & Walker available, so after saying Jowitt was going to get a run in the halves, he plays him on the wing, goes with Miller & Hampshire, who actually did pretty well I thought, as they did at the back end of 2018 together, but he saw fit to bring in Brough, yet now goes back to them 2?! He simply doesn't know what his best combinations are, because he has too many options, and has to justify them being in the squad by trying to juggle eyeryone about. Westerman has to play because he signed him, but then Arona, ohh i'll play him at prop then to get him in somewhere?! In 2017 & 2018 the team picked itself with few injuries, so therefore he didn't have to make any real decisions, in the last 18 months he's had to make more decisions and sadly he has gotten more wrong than right, including signings, remember Baldwinson, Reynolds etc? Maybe now he either needs help, or we need to move in a different direction, and actually have some direction from the head coach.

Do you think that Chester who I think as now been an head coach about 6 years would have someone to come in and basically sort him out, to me that sends a message out to every club that he’s not an head coach cause he can’t make the right decisions. Any suggestion of that would probably see him walk away imo

The problem Poptart is that the debutant with only two training sessions looked better than some of our regular players. I wonder if this is because his game is based on Huddersfield coaching not Chester.
I think of Tanginoa who when he first arrived was a tackle breaking wide running second row and now he is a prop which is just a waste of his natural ability.
If we take yesterday’s game we had a loose forward at prop but three props on the bench, only one hooker whilst omitting the other and a young lad at centre when Atkins would have been the obvious choice. I expect the latter was because of his promise to give youth a chance.
I am sure that there are people much closer to the club but I just sense something is wrong in the dressing room. I am concerned with the sudden increase in rumours of contracted players leaving, this is something we have avoided over the last few seasons but are back again after the lockdown. It may just be press speculation I guess time will tell but to lose your best players in a team playing the way we are is not conducive to season ticket sales and crowd numbers.

When your pack loses the arm wrestle it makes the game very difficult. Catalans had the better of the forward exchanges, got the points on the board in the first half, and Wakefield were left with a mountain to climb. A positive in that they fought to the end, but the negative being you never looked like winning the game.
Chester has a free hand to try anything with no relegation, so I was rather surprised you brought in Senior on a loan deal ( unless it was just for the Challenge Cup). There's no excuse for any coach not to look to the future should there be nothing to play for, further down the line in 2020.

What's happened green who we signed from hull fc

You weren't the only one...he is here for a month.

Decisions will go for and against you, but overall he had a decent game.

What new coaching staff? I’m pretty sure Covid has reduced funds as it is, never mind paying off Chester and how many coaches. It’s just not feasible to sack Chester at this point.

If Chester leaves this year, it’ll be his choice. We’ve got a nothing season ahead of us now, I’d like to see us be more enterprising in attack like we were yesterday.

I still can't get over the Pitts brainfart and wonder how things would have progressed.

Disagreed. At 20-12 we started to get a roll on, we should’ve had a penalty for a high tackle but the ref gave it to Catalans for Pitts rushing in. When has that ever happened in the past few years? I don’t disagree with the sin binning but the awarding of the penalty was wrong and essentially put the game to bed.

I don't think you do yourselves any favours by blaming the ref for being the difference. Wakey were much improved from the heavy defeat the week before, so i would take that, and work on this performance. If you want to say the ref had a poor game, then fine, i respect your opinion.

I’m not blaming the ref for us losing, Catalans taking advantage of our right edge with some smart play did the damage in the end. But giving Catalans the penalty on our try line killed the game - there’s no two ways about it.

Wollo will Pitts take over from Grix for the next couple of seasons

With our defending style how many players this season have scored hat tricks against us?

Chester has made some poor signings of average players rather than one or two classier players we should have got when we had those two top 5 finishes and a little bit extra to spend we desperately need a scrum half organiser and they dont come cheap i know in the past we have had luck and got decent output from average signings but when you see other teams getting better players and we dont it does annoy

People keep bleating on about a scrum half and an organiser, well we’ve just had one and he did nothing. Brough as has had a great career and he did nothing at Wakefield partly because his legs had gone and we couldn’t get him close enough to put his little kicks through. When drinkwater was at Leigh they got relegated when he was at hull kr they stopped up on the last day, but when he was at Catalan the first time he was great and the pack rolled teams over on the way to Wembley. Him and moloney never run with the ball they are both short of pace but they don’t have to run because the pack is so dominant it’s front foot rugby nearly all the time. Add to that their strength, hunger and fitness and they look great. Our pack is too old and slow for fast rugby. Unless we at least get parity with the opposition pack we’ve no chance. Where’s king and green. We need a more or less complete new pack of forwards who are prepared to roll their sleeves up and do some damn graft who are prepared to get fit and run hard and take their opponents on.

Agreed you could put the best half in the world into our squad but unless the forwards lay a platform it’s never going to work. As I said elsewhere though if Catalans are turning us round with early kicks and the backs aren’t making any kind of metres the forwards aren’t going to be as dominant. I think people underestimate the importance of having the like of TJ, BJB and Lyne in the starting 13.

Agreed you could put the best half in the world into our squad but unless the forwards lay a platform it’s never going to work. As I said elsewhere though if Catalans are turning us round with early kicks and the backs aren’t making any kind of metres the forwards aren’t going to be as dominant. I think people underestimate the importance of having the like of TJ, BJB and Lyne in the starting 13.

No way. I really like Pitts and was pleased he came back. The incident just absolutely gutted me and was so unprofessional and subsequently cost us a possible come back. Full support and fresh start next game. Ditto any member of the current squad.

Grix was a long sad story and far more than his nadir v Saints. I am expecting him in the adoption fundraiser by the way

We all know that it must be Chester’s decision to quit because no one will force him. We just have to hope he realises that by staying he is causing more damage but he didn’t at Hull KR so I am not optimistic.

Agree we need a better pack but everything catalans did in first half went through maloney there is a reason these players get paid the big bucks and unless we can homegrow a josh papali we need a dominant voice getting our forwards more mobile thats where your coaching and advisors come in rather than the five drives and a kick we put out at the minute often minus the kick cos weve knocked on etc

The ref didn't score the try. Decision may have been wrong, from our point of view, but we then needed to defend for 6 tackles. Which we couldn't manage to do as we can't defend full stop.

I agree PT.
However, Chester was the coach last week as well ??
Yesterday was a huge improvement on last week, no doubt about it.

My comment on Powell improving players and Chester, less so, was a general comment for comparison.
As for which is the better coach of these 2 - there isn't any discussion neccessary, although some credit at Cas obviously goes to Powell's coaching team.

With Trinity last season and this, our squad looks better on paper than our results and although there have been injuries etc, just look what Cas did when they had the mother of all injury crisis' a couple of seasons age.
I seem to recall one of their props playing in the halves for a couple of games.
Their whole attacking set up is streets ahead of ours and defensively they are better too - with or without injuries.