Wilkin has let the media role go to his head and he plays on it big style!

I've watched it 3 times and there was nothing wrong with the last saints try. Their first of the second half however was a county mile forward from Amor.

Talking about the telly and cameras, I thought we might have got something out of the game had Sky been covering the game.

Might of got the odd 50:50
Awarded a penalty or two for off side and lying on in the tackle.

Or are sky saving themselves for the Wakefield V Cas ??????????????????????????????????????????

Well I haven't seen a replay but it certainly looked to come out of amors grasp in a forward motion and don't forget they won't use tv replays to adjudicate on forward passes as the angle can look deceiving

We're relying on Salford not to get their points back, because that would make things interesting. When we lose as we have been (Hudderfield matches aside) we relied on othetresults to go our way. Where we are we are on merit I'll give you that, where we finish is more likely depend on others though.

If you watched the sky try clips, the problem is the camera is behind the play. I was in the north stand so in front of the play and I thought it definitely went forward from Amor

But looking at it that way every team has to rely on others to beat teams for instance if we didn't beat Wigan at home they would be top and not hull so does that mean hull have relied on us for them to be top? No.

Must admit that Saints did resort to unsporting tactics today, and Wilkins should be ashamed of himself. I bet they don't show it on Super League Show tomorrow if he is guest "Expert". Shame really because historically I always admired their open style of play. May be because of their close proximity to Wigan that they've started using questionable tactics. By the way, Child & Cobb should be looking for new jobs tomorrow!!!!

My point is, other teams seem to be taking their fates into their own hands, we don't seem to be. With Catalans and Wigan away and Cas at home I can't see anything other than three loses. It means that we probably will depend more on other results than any other team.

Wilkin not Wilkins. Burrow not Burrows. Child not Childs. Asda not Asdas. Tesco not Tescos.

Quote ="Tricky2309"Well I haven't seen a replay but it certainly looked to come out of amors grasp in a forward motion and don't forget they won't use tv replays to adjudicate on forward passes as the angle can look deceiving'" www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... port/12317 Amor(s) passes it over the 20 line but that's how it goes.

Quote ="Tricky2309"Well I haven't seen a replay but it certainly looked to come out of amors grasp in a forward motion and don't forget they won't use tv replays to adjudicate on forward passes as the angle can look deceiving'" www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... port/12317 Amor(s) passes it over the 20 line but that's how it goes.

Pedantic not pedantics

I was a metere away the ball landed on the line end of

What about Turner short? Does the vid show that conclusivel??

Hmm. He gets over the line before being pushed back into the field of play but you can't tell if the ball is grounded. I imagine it will have been but can't say 100%.

Yeah it did. People can call out the referee again if they wish but he didn't keep dropping the ball or missing the tackles. We were not good enough today, deal with it. Start crossing the fingers that salfords appeal fails. Middle 8's otherwise.

Which other teams? The only team around us that have done anything recently is Widnes, where they've won 3 out of their last 5 and are on the same points as us. But considering the start they had, they should have had the top 8 sorted some time ago. Cas have ballsed it up for themselves the last 3 games as well. Leeds are out of it and Hull KR, Salford, Hudds would need results to go their way, even if one of them managed to win all their remaining games, which I can't see tbh. Salford have won 1 of their last 4 as well. Just about all teams have benefited off the backs of others buggering up, whether at the top, middle or bottom.

Obviously it's massively frustrating as hell we haven't got the win we needed, especially today where a bit of composure in their half would have won us it but ateotd fate is still in our hands with 3 games left.

Salford's points thing is the main thing that needs sorting. I've said it before, I'd be amazed if they got all their points back, especially if it's left to MK to explain the ins and outs of RFL procedure, which he seems clueless on.

1 team out of 4 (leeds) cant catch us - next week it will be defo 2 possibly 3

cant see us wining any of 3 games left- ever since the Catalans win on Magic Weekend our performance especially defensively have been terrible

I also see though us getting 8th on 18 points

Reflects their coach

I would have taken 18 points at start of season. The quality of our squad is not great that is why on the whole we see the same mistakes week in week out, lots of handling errors and poor discipline have killed us. 54 % completion rate yesterday, the lads to very well to keep in touching distance. A chance of finishing in the top 8 and a cup semi final is a fantastic position to be in for a squad that was predicted, rightly so on paper , to finish 12th. The pleasing thing for me is that despite the squads lack of ability, lack of discipline and lack of Rugby brains it does not lack passion, desire and effort and that is worth a great deal

It would seem we will scrape 8th and get to at least the CC semi final.
At the start of the season I would have ripped your hand off for that!

Re: the Saints game, we competed with them for the full 80, with a little more composure and a 'stronger' ref (or perhaps Child not being anywhere near BV yesterday afternoon) we could have won. I saw enough yesterday to think we can at least take 2 points
V Cas at BV in a few weeks, they are on a similar run of poor form and home advantage should see us win that one.

Agree. We had two chances in the last five minutes to win the game but due to panic and error we blew them both.

Tom Johnstone on crutches and Anthony England got a shoulder injury... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7995115

Tom Johnstone on crutches and Anthony England got a shoulder injury... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7995115

Quote ="asmadasa"Tom Johnstone on crutches and Anthony England got a shoulder injury... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7995115'" Tom Johnstone had tweeted it wasn't a break, but it has since been taken down so not sure what's going on there?

Quote ="asmadasa"Tom Johnstone on crutches and Anthony England got a shoulder injury... www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7995115'" Tom Johnstone had tweeted it wasn't a break, but it has since been taken down so not sure what's going on there?

We lacked composure yesterday.
Whether that's just because we were trying too hard, I dont know.
IF we can give ourselves 50% possession we can beat anyone but, our handling and discipline cost us dear.

It's all about controlling the ball and we just didn't manage to do that.