I know what you mean about grounds with/without the corners filled in.

I've always thought the same about the JJB & KC.
IMO the atmosphere "escapes" from the corners at the JJB, whilst it echos in the KC.

As far as the 12/15k goes: If we're targeting 10,000 members by NM then surely we should be looking at 15k.

I also prefer the most recent set of designs with the corners filled in.

Over to you SRW.

I don't think the money will be there to have the corners filled in from the start unfortunately. But if we can make it desirable for people to try and get to the games at NM, then we may be able to raise further finance to fill them in at a later date.

but surely putting in the foundations for the corners would save some money

It's cheaper to build the whole thing in one that it would be to leave the corners out and come back later to do them, but you can only spend what you can raise, and unless something comes through - which could happen - I doubt that much will happen in the corners - initially at least.

I've always thought 12k or 15k to actually lack ambition. I know I said this a few years ago when we were averaging 5k. Yet if you look at now, we are over 8k average and growing, no doubt plenty more next season.

With a team on the rise and fresh interest in a new stadium then I fear 12k could be a sellout on not too infrequent an occasion. A stadium full to capacity is great for atmosphere. Yet it is not good for maximising revenue which is what we need to do.

Altough I understand where you are coming from, equally, i'm sure that Mr Glover & Co would snap your hand off for a 10k average and some sell outs.
I think 15k would be planty for the short to medium term and if things do go to plan, then hopefully there woud be some way of adding a tier etc.

Altough I understand where you are coming from, equally, i'm sure that Mr Glover & Co would snap your hand off for a 10k average and some sell outs.
I think 15k would be planty for the short to medium term and if things do go to plan, then hopefully there woud be some way of adding a tier etc.

When that day comes, they'll just have to build a second tier!

I drive down newmarket lane everyday and still cant picture where the stadium will be, from the top entrance in stanley is it before or after you go under the motorway?

on the right hand side before the bridge, it will divert before the first few houses on a new road

Brilliant, ill look tonight on my drive home

do you want me to bob down and clear a few trees so you can get a better view

15K certainly isn’t a lack of ambition. Warrington are hardly selling out the HJ every week and I suspect there are only a few SL clubs who could push towards the 20K barrier regularly.

Besides, it’s not as if there is a choice on the matter. It all comes down to money and considering somebody else is footing the bill I doubt Trinity have much say on the matter. If the funding can be obtained it will be 15K, if not hen it will be 12K.

I stand to be corrected on this, but I believe it will be on the right hand side when travelling towards Methley, just where the old railway tracks go over the road.

Hi Khlav, I appreciate the finances aren't up to us and I (we) are very grateful for this.

I don't apologise for my ambition for our club. I know we are not in the 1960's anymore but we used to get crowds over 20k then. We are in a catchment area comparable to Wigan. Long term I think we can regain dizzy heights again. Having the infrastructure can't do any harm.

Every journey begins with one step.

Built and12,000 will do me for starts, and my seat on halfway.

Me again.
Yeah we do really have the potential and it really irritates me as one who remembers the late fifties and sixties to be referred to constantly as a little club.
People on the VT even talk about our small catchment area without doing any geographical research.
I hope I live long enough to see us be a big club again
Oh how I would gloat.
Yes I would sink to such low depths after all the pain I/we have endured.

Just realised you cannot really have low depths.
Time for a beer.

These are the outline planning drawings. The reserved matters drawings and layouts will probably change from these a little but the stadium complex will probably remain round and about where it is shown here.

On this developable plot areas plan you can see the proposed laid over the existing -

[urlhttp://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4385377&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf[/url

This is the outline landscaping proposals plan -

[urlhttp://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4385381&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf[/url

And finally, this is the site drainage strategy plan -

[urlhttp://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4385385&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf[/url

I appreciate your ambition but your not right on this one IMHO.

We will never average 12k IMHO although we may attain it for two or three games a season. I seriously doubt we will ever hit 15k unless we had sustained and massive success. For me 12k is more than adequate for our needs and the possibility of 15k is useful even if unlikely.

Also historically Wakefield have not been a well supported club. In the 1950's and 1960's we very occasionally hit or got above the 20k mark - however in those days that was the same for most clubs. Generally as far as I'm aware throughout our history we have not been up there with the Wigan's and the Leeds for the bulk of the time - I'm sure someone out there knows better than me so I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong.

For me we will never be one of the clubs who can guarantee big gates and thus fund our success. We will need to operate as a medium sized club and make up for it by being cannier and more efficient than the rest. We'll do OK I reckon.

The new ground is going to be on the old pit stacks. These are located to the right hand side when you travel from Aberford Road towards Methley. You will pass the row of houses to your right and then you will cross over an old railway line, the ground will be to your right and set back towards the river, kind of directly behind the row of houses.

The row of houses are on you're left as go to Methley, the only house on you're right is that 'face the future' business/house and it's behind that house the ground is going to be, almost backing up to Moorhouse estate.

Hi,

What stage is your new stadium at? Am I right in thinking that all necessary funding is secure & your now waiting on planning permission?

Appologies if answered elsewhere, I've read the last 3/4 pages here, but all the talk was on corners and the stadium location.

AFAIK funding is secured to build a basic stadium, subject to planning permission, the bells and whistles funding is from grants, which again is subject to planning permission. The outline planning application is waiting to be rubber stamped subject to the 106 agreement and apparently the SOS is in possession of this so should be giving the green light soon.

Thanks KK.

Always happy to see RL clubs moving forward, particularly ones with such a rich history & tradition like WT.