He has been given more than any of our previous SL coaches with regards the squad of players with the possible exception of Webster but has produced much less on the field. He has had more than enough time unless we forget the last 40 + games and start again. We could have a Dallas moment when we all wake up and it was a bad dream or in many cases the performances were nightmares.
I admire your loyalty to defend Chester, I don’t understand it so please tell me again how long do we give him albeit as I have said before this is hypothetical because he is going nowhere.

We need to be smarter on the attack and especially against defences that move up quickly.

One solution would be the short kick ahead.

Recently Lino used it to launch a perfect rubber kick.

I think at 6 the likes of Rocky is more than capable of a short up and over the attack which with his pace he could collect in his stride.

Do we practice this? I don't know but as a former amateur player I know it makes the defence think about the consequence of it succeeding.

Would be nice to think that we were practising unlocking tight defences.

We desperately need to be scoring more than 6 points in a match as per our last 3 games

Are you for real or do you just bilge out this nonsense for kicks?

Webster achieved nothing and without a doubt, was the worst SL coach we have so far managed, There were no bright spots with him.

Chester is going through a dreadful time but I won't allow snide people like you to re-write history to suit your own narrative, Chesters first three seasons in charge were very good. Some great signings and some fantastic displays, including a few cricket scores against top teams. Apart from his Cas hoodoo, they were great seasons END OF.

If he loses his job so be it, all coaches have a shelf life but I for one will always thank Chris for two of the most entertaining seasons I have ever witnessed at BV.

You really are low at times.

We need a quick ball distributing hooker as we have for a couple of seasons, we are too pedestrian around the ruck, no disrespect to players filling in at hooker but that is where we would get on the front a lot quicker in attack.

Sam Williams anyone - proven kicking game, could play 6 7 or 9

No!

One he's turned us down already.

Two I can't see how he's any better than Lino.

Three no space on the quota assuming AF is joining us.

Wonder what Salford’s spend was when they played in the 2019 grand final ,around about our spend I would guess, give or take .One astute signing and the rest is history .
So why do we hide behind the salary cap theory all the time ,the simple matter of the fact is the squad we’ve got aren't performing to nowhere near their potential at this present time. It’s not all about how much a player is worth to how he performs ,it’s about being proud pulling the shirt on and giving your all for your club.
Two contrasting players on I’d guess vastly different wages ,you’ve only to look at jack welsby and Frank Paul the wrecking ball .One would walk into our team and will be on a small salary at present , the other I wouldn’t pay out in washers ,guess which .Now I’m not saying for one minute that’s the same tale all over rugby but you get the jist .It doesn’t cost big bucks to play with some pride and passion , it takes a squad that are willing to put their body on the line for the club.
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We need an actual Hooker not a scrum half who can play Hooker.

I've said before and I'll say it again hookers do not exist in the game now so to dis players like Sam doesn't make sense, anyone with lightening speed at the play the ball ability to have a good kicking game and a brain to open up the defence will do

On current showing Williams is much more suited to the kind of player Trinity needed.

He is an actual midfield general and a leader.

It’s a real shame he turned us down.

I’m still of the opinion we thought he was in the bag and when he turned us down late in the day as I understand it we went with a knee jerk reaction to bring in Lino.

Hope Lino proves me wrong, he is a good player clearly but just not that right style of player. Neither are 9s though.

I thought the pre season narrative was that we needed an organising half back to bring out the best in the untouchable Miller ?

I think Sam would have been a great fit for Trinity but he decided it wasn’t to be.

I do though think you are a little wide of the mark in relation to him being a hooker and the hooking role.

Hookers may not “hook” anymore but they guide you round the field, set playing positions up but also have to do a lot of defensive work and have very good delivery off the floor.

There are undoubtedly some halves that make the transition such as Powell but I still think it is a very much specialist and maybe the most important position on the field given they touch the ball more than any other player.

Neither Williams, Lino or Miller are capable of bringing quality to the 9 position for Trinity from what I have seen, but it’s clear we are lacking in that department.

We did, as yet it doesn’t look like we have signed one.

As i said when the draw come out we would be lucky to win any of the first 6 or 7 games and we had to hope we were injury free when the gaems we could possibly win come around that doesn't look like the case and we are in serious trouble.

WE made 1 change really to our squad this was always going to happen whoever was the coach

It just shows how bad a club Wakefield have become when supporters of the club don't expect to win a game in the first 6 or 7 games of the season. Bojo is not alone in thinking like this because we have become programed into thinking loss after loss is ok because there will be a win on the horizon to celebrate. Chester is like the managers we have come across in our working lives, a nice bloke but are not very good at what they do and eventually they get moved to another position in the company. Chester needs to go now because burying our heads in the sand and waiting for that next win is not what supporters of our great club deserve.

Sorry, Jonh but you can't know that yet. If Williams was a midfield general he never showed it in his first stint. Unless my memory is playing tricks the only midfield general we had was Liam Finn.

Think that was the trouble Do not think we saw the best of Williams because of Finn .As far as the Coach was concerd Finn had to play .Interesting to note, though Williams did not start a lot of games he kicked four 20 40 to Finns none in the season he was hear

I'm happy to give Chester until half-way through the season or 12 games in. If we're still in the relegation zone then, he has to go. If the problem is the coach we'll survive, if it's the players, we're stuffed anyway.
Clearly, the team is underperforming this year, but it's not 2015 when we were not even close and often 4+ scores behind by half-time. We have been competitive for long periods of the game against top opposition and playing some quality entertaining RL in patches. I don't put too much weight on them being 'understrength' because our main area of underperformance is in the forwards and all 3 teams so far have had top quality packs. Would you really expect to beat Leeds, Wigan and Saints away from BV? Some fans seem to have an agenda and the cherry-picked 19% win rate is used as ammunition against CC.
A lot depends on whether you accept that the last two seasons were very special circumstances. The reality is that over his tenure he has 42% win rate, even over the last 2 seasons it was 33% when things were going wrong. The last 5 games of last season we had 60% win rate (see how easy it is to cherry-pick results). For a budget club, that's not too bad. Expectations have risen, and rightly so. Obviously, it's a results driven business and losing is always disappointing for fans. Top quality sportsmen are consistent over a long period, we can't yet afford grade A players and so we rely on the stars aligning for a run of wins. The club as a whole is in the strongest position I have ever experienced in my living memory and it's still going in the right direction. Until we have facilities that can generate additional income rather than costing a fortune, we'll have to be patient.
The hangover from 2020 and reduced funding means we have a very skinny squad, as do many teams, but it means we'll survive financially. Winning and losing are habits.
So, for me, he has until the beginning of July (Salford Away) to turn things around.

I think that’s fair Lino clearly needs more time but as I said before from what I have seen of him in the NRL he was a strike half not really an organiser.

I admit thought that is from limited viewing.

Williams was inconsistent for us and Finn was playing some great rugby at the time. It was always who worked best with Miller who was the only incumbent half more or less guaranteed a shirt.

Williams was a fantastic midfield general one week then out of the team, never really getting a run apart from towards the end of the season where he was very good in my opinion in that role.

He also played very well at Canberra when given a chance in his first season. He couldn’t get a game last year over Williams and Wighton, which is no real criticism as both were playing out of their skin, but was awarded the captaincy in the last game to mark his attitude, he was also outstanding in that game too.

He is clearly very well thought of by the Canberra coaching staff as this year he is normally in the coaching box or sat with Ricky Stewart. Not sure if he has retired and taken the step into coaching or what to be honest.

For me he was the one that got away in this off season just passed but at the end of the day he didn’t want to come.

I genuinely hope Lino does come good in that organising role but despite what the club said when they signed him, for me it’s not his natural game.

That's why with no new personnel on board you have to try different things with what you've got, especially when things aren't working with the tried and tested...anything to try and inject some new momentum/impetus and to keep the opposition coaches wondering how we'll play, instead of using the same game plan against us they've been able to use for the last 2 or 3 years cos we've been so predictable

I get all that you are saying ,but that is leaving it very late for some other coach to come in and try and crack the whip and try and keep us up .By the time you suggest if we’re in the dog poo do you really think the players are suddenly going to turn it around ,I think more a downward spiral to oblivion.Things need to be in place well before mid season if indeed we don’t start picking wins up .Can’t see any coach touching us with a barge pole with relegation looming fast on the horizon and then charged with keeping us up ,too little too late IMO .I truly hope it doesn’t get to that conclusion, but unless the players kick on and the coach can motivate them ,I see no other ending .

Sorry Vasty but I don't agree on this one. Williams stats when he was here speak for themselves, and especially given that in most games he was coming off the bench. Would be interesting to see how many try assists he would have been part of if he played more of a starting role, something we will never know now, sadly.

I think in the whole 2017 season Miller and Williams only started together once or maybe twice

You say williams was inconsistent but was he not leading our try assists in what was a fairly successful season

I think people underestimate the problems we must have in recruiting players. What do have to offer? Unlikely to win anything and play and train in poor surroundings. It's well known that players at the bigger clubs play for less money than they could command elsewhere but stay because they'll win something and play in finals.

We're the opposite, I imagine, where we have to pay over the odds because we have to pay for the fact that we offer nothing to a player other than money. The new stadium may have an impact on that, because the surroundings will be better. So, we can demand this and demand that, but that means getting a player who is worth what they'll demand to play for us.

People talk about Gigot. Does anyone think that when the offer he came in, he raised a glass of vino in celebration and started looking excitedly for places to visit nearby? No. He'll have said, 'Make it worth my while," and when that happened, he'll have sulked all the way to the plane (and the pitch).

For me, the next six games are a good indicator. Saints will beat all teams. We were poor against Catalans but reasonable against Leeds. Lino needs to find his place as leader after a career of playing second-fiddle., but he might.

Cant disagree with any of that.
However, the measure of a good coach, is to gain the maximum performance the players that he has and have a strategy for competing in and winning games and I dont think that we're even close.
Apart from TJ, is there any player that is hitting 7/10 from their performances this season ?
Accepting that Lino is still finding his way, our attack, despite having had the ball for long periods in most games, has been woeful, absolutely woeful.
So inept have we been with ball in hand that, once we go 2 scores behind, the game is effectively over, as we haven't got 3 tries in us, certainly not with Johnstone sidelined and we have been nilled in 3 or 4 halves this season.