been guided through the first two games, it will be funny to see response if they keep this now

Widnes were good value for their win last night and they have some excellent young players.
Mellor and Hanbury caused Salford some real headaches.
As for Salford, I think they will be scrapping it out at the wrong end of the table.
They beat London easily and squeezed past us, with some help from the man in the middle.
It looks like they need Rangi back quickly, as Timmy was found wanting last night, some stray passes and a very average kicking game.
Browns kicking was excellent thougth.
On the downside, Widnes don't look as though they will be anywhere near the relegation slots.

Yes Widnes surprised me. I like how they play.

Bet Koolcash was peeved to see his players laughing and joking with Widnes players at the final hooter.
There wasn't much to choose between the two sides right up until that dubious play-on call from Silverback.
THe Salford squad just isn't deep enough to cover crucial injuries. Howarth, Ashurst and Williams clearly way bellow Super League standard.
Widnes themselves have some poor players but one or two of their team have the pace to create problems for the lower sides.
Oh, and Smith had another stinker.

They don't get how Smith plays yet. Some passes dropped would not have been dropped at Wakefield........ironically.

Chase 120,000
Hansen 100,000
Smith 80,000
The Doctor's face PRICELESS

You are spot on with this, sometimes Smith is one step ahead of even his own team.

he's bloody awful is Smith - worst defender I've seen play SL.

And Hugh Hefner has nothing to be angry about

They do seem to be suffering with injuries

Chase
Hock
Meli
and now Junior S'au

Looks like the predictions of their back up players being not quite good enough may be true.

Disagree on this one. When he signed for us all the Wigan fans said he would be a turstyle in defence. Granted he wasn't brilliant but he wasn't as bad as they all made out and his passing game is the best I have seen from a Wakefield player in Super League.

His kicking game isn't the best but it is ok, i just think it wont work out for him at Salford as he plays his best with a game manager alongside him which he wont get at Salford.

He is not an awful player at all and he is deffo in the top 10 half back currently in Super League possibly the top 5.

he let 18 points through last night.

SL official stats:

12 tackes
5 missed tackles
2 errors
1 penalty


missing 29% of your tackles is turnstyle material.

I've seen him on TV twice this season and there's hope for me yet if he can play SL. doesn'tt ake the ball to the line, doesn't really do anything. His effort on Windes' try when Joseph offloaded actually made ME blush

He had an off night last night but that happens to every player at some point. I am going off his time at Wakefield where if you look at his tackling stats for the past 2 seasons he missed around 15% of his tackles which isn't bad for a half back.

I never understood the hype around Salford. The core of their team in weak at the proverbial. The hookers are awful, halves terrible and I include Smith in that, nothing to brag about at loose and fullback looks totally inept.

Chase may well win them a few games but he is not the type of player to take a team and drag them out of the mire.

Add to this they seem to have no fight in them apart from Morley who is a shadow of his former self.

This is all before we start on their Coach who still thinks its 2002.

I think they have an outside chance of making the 8, just.

You're on the wrong site Dave.
On this forum you are only allowed to slag off Lyne, Mathers and sometimes Fox.
Other players aren't cr@p, they just make mistakes.

Back on topic, it took our lads half a season to get used to Smiths stlyle of play and his passing game and it wont be too different at Salford.
His long kicking game is very average, but his short kicking game is pretty good.

Is it me or does Morley seem to have a free reign to do whatever he pleases since he joined Salford?

TBH thought Salford looked very wakefield esque .....

sorry pal!



I don't knock his passing game, which is his only redeeming feature. But, as I say, missing 5/17 tackles (3 of which directly leading to tries) is enough to totally write him off for me.

In my mind they're stats that nullify anything else. They lost by 14 points and he was a perpitraitor for 18.... To say he had an off day doesn't wash with me - his defence has always been diabolical and it'd take a miracle for me to be convinced otherwise.

You expect your half backs to be a speed bump in defence - even if they don't hit and stick, do enough for the bigger guys to come in and finish it off. He neither hits nor sticks. Bloody hell, even Robbie Burrow pulls his weight enough to not get trampled the way Smith does!

(trampled is a bad term however, as he doesn't put his body in any danger of this happening)

......you'd be right to think I aren't a fan

Absolutley correct there.

Always go on a percentage of the tackles missed to attempted

So in that game he attempted to make 17 Tackles and missed 5 of them - Which means he missed around 30% Of his tackles which is ridiculous for any proffesional RL player.

His less experianced half partner missed around 5% of his tackles - Doesnt matter what position you play tackling is a fundamental skill in this game, this (Aswell as his lack of running game) Is why he never could quite hack the NRL.

I feel like Phil Clarke

Just one difference...... I bet he wakes on a morning thrilled to bits that he's Phil Clarke

I thought I posted a reply Dave. It was very eloquant.
But I'll summarise by saying I like Smith. Having a player like him is worth covering his flaws in my opinion.

I did wonder how it would work at Salford for him. He has well documented issues that were well cared for at Wakefield with him being such a key cog in the engine. At Salford he is under more pressure to perform with more hot heads around to have a go. (on and off the field)
I do wonder if that is a better place for him in the long run. I don't thinki t is.

I can see the Dr having a meglomaniac "



" melt down if Salford continue to perform how they have so far, in order to buy his way where he wants to be.

Spot on - I said exactly that on the VT a couple of weeks ago; it does seem that certain players are given a free pass to do what they like. O'Loughlin never tackles anywhere but the head and neck, Peacock hasn't run on to a legal pass in years and your man Morley is free to swing his arms wherever he likes.

Oh to be a 'big' club eh?

Just watched it back and it seems no coincidence to me that when the good Dr barks out (go forth and) seconds later in the back ground you can see the pink tops of the officials trotting down the tunnel!

I wonder if the Dr will receive a hefty fine, like RA did when he had a pop at Child?