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| Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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| Quote ="darwoo11"Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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Yes indeed. Why dont we just put up with a stadium thats anywhere and be grateful.
Very easy for you to say isn't it?
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| Quote ="darwoo11"Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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If Yorkshire Carnegie had any sense they would kick the Rhinos out and level the rugby pitch off and build a proper car park for the cricket matches', you could then go and share the bulls new ground at the Odsal sporting village, it should not be a problem for you as you are obviously into ground sharing
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| Quote ="chissitt"If Yorkshire Carnegie had any sense they would kick the Rhinos out and level the rugby pitch off and build a proper car park for the cricket matches', you could then go and share the bulls new ground at the Odsal sporting village, it should not be a problem for you as you are obviously into ground sharing
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The thing is we are not facing that scenario and you guys sadly are! I certainly don't want Wakefield to "go under" as a club simply because some people cannot accept that the only way forward is to share a ground.
Agree I wouldnt like to be in the predicament but you have to take whats on offer and survive dont you??
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| Quote ="darwoo11"The thing is we are not facing that scenario and you guys sadly are! I certainly don't want Wakefield to "go under" as a club simply because some people cannot accept that the only way forward is to share a ground.
Agree I wouldnt like to be in the predicament but you have to take whats on offer and survive dont you??'"
The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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And what happens if they don't? Everybody's making assumption on what may or may not happen. The point is worrying what happens now, not two, three, five or ten years down the road.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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I agree but better to have a club and fight that possibility rather than fade into obscurity and have a large % of your fans not support the new "fledgling" club in the lower leagues as they only want SL?
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| Quote ="darwoo11"I agree but better to have a club and fight that possibility rather than fade into obscurity and have a large % of your fans not support the new "fledgling" club in the lower leagues as they only want SL?
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Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?'"
Fair play.....end of SL for you lot then
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?'"
Exactly! and why anyone thinks Oakwell would work either is beyond me!
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| Quote ="chapster"Exactly! and why anyone thinks Oakwell would work either is beyond me!'"
it would as a stepping stone to Newmarket, if was to stay there then it would be a new club, and if Trinity was used as the team then I would look towards supporting them, WMDC should be ashamed at what they are trying to do, it has a taste of Thatchersim in way they are forcing us into a corner
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| Quote ="snowie"it would as a stepping stone to Newmarket, if was to stay there then it would be a new club, and if Trinity was used as the team then I would look towards supporting them, WMDC should be ashamed at what they are trying to do, it has a taste of Thatchersim in way they are forcing us into a corner
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we would not last a year in oakwell financially, ffs we can hardly survive at BV!
sponsors would be harder to come by, wed have to pay rent, fixtures could get moved all over the place to suit the footy, FANS WOULD NOT GO! south yorkshire does not want another sporting team, let alone an RL team, its been tried, it failed!
think you need to look nearer to home as well as to who has led who where!
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| Quote ="chapster"we would not last a year in oakwell financially, ffs we can hardly survive at BV!
sponsors would be harder to come by, wed have to pay rent, fixtures could get moved all over the place to suit the footy, FANS WOULD NOT GO! south yorkshire does not want another sporting team, let alone an RL team, its been tried, it failed!
think you need to look nearer to home as well as to who has led who where!'"
lets just hang on to with our dreams of newmarket then
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| Quote ="PHe"How do Sheffield Eagles afford to play at Bramall Lane?'"
they dont pay SL price for players contracts would be my guess!!
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| The country is on it's no matter what the politicians say. And the RFL are when all said & done threatening all clubs that don't make =#FF0000their criteria on grounds to build a new stadia Why couldn't this have been put on hold for at least couple of years to see what happens with the economy? Whats the point in having new stadiums if the fans don't have a job and can't afford to go and watch.
Sorry but I don't blame Wakey,Cas or even Box. This is down to the RFL forcing the clubs that can't afford it out of super league.Fans go on about Wakeys ground no shelter if it rains,poor toilets and parking facilities but most grounds are the same.
Bradford--- No shelter for fans
Leeds ---- No shelter for away fans and no parking facilities
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Most of us go to games and spend less than 2 hours in the ground. If we can't make do for just 2 hours then I think we should give up.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"The country is on it's booty no matter what the politicians say. And the RFL are when all said & done threatening all clubs that don't make =#FF0000their criteria on grounds to build a new stadia
Why couldn't this have been put on hold for at least couple of years to see what happens with the economy? Whats the point in having new stadiums if the fans don't have a job and can't afford to go and watch.
Sorry but I don't blame Wakey,Cas or even Box. This is down to the RFL forcing the clubs that can't afford it out of super league.Fans go on about Wakeys ground no shelter if it rains,poor toilets and parking facilities but most grounds are the same.
Bradford--- No shelter for fans
Leeds ---- No shelter for away fans and no parking facilities
Salford--- No shelter & poor toilets no Parking
Castleford-- No shelter (dare not risk bogs)
HKR---No shelter, no parking and poop stewards.
Most of us go to games and spend less than 2 hours in the ground. If we can't make do for just 2 hours then I think we should give up.
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good points, but yes it is the clubs fault as they should have been lobbying for the extra years you mentioned 2 years ago, en mass!
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We have 3 yes 3 covered area's.
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So saying no shelter
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| Quote ="Fully"You also have the Benidorm Flats too, so that's two.
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Thats only for the posh people I live in Normy and don't do posh
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| Quote ="Disney cat"The country is on it's booty no matter what the politicians say. And the RFL are when all said & done threatening all clubs that don't make =#FF0000their criteria on grounds to build a new stadia
Why couldn't this have been put on hold for at least couple of years to see what happens with the economy? Whats the point in having new stadiums if the fans don't have a job and can't afford to go and watch.
Sorry but I don't blame Wakey,Cas or even Box. This is down to the RFL forcing the clubs that can't afford it out of super league.Fans go on about Wakeys ground no shelter if it rains,poor toilets and parking facilities but most grounds are the same.
Bradford--- No shelter for fans
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Salford--- No shelter & poor toilets no Parking
Castleford-- No shelter (dare not risk bogs)
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Most of us go to games and spend less than 2 hours in the ground. If we can't make do for just 2 hours then I think we should give up.
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DC, I understand what you are saying, but we Wakefield have bull crapped our way into SL on some promises which we did not keep, and we have had many a year to get it sorted, this is not a surprise, this was known for years, and if we fail and get kicked out of SL, then we deserve it more than any other club.
The rules are there, like em or not, but our pi55 pot approach to this over the last few years is the reason why we are in the brown sticky smelly stuff !
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| Quote ="i8no-one"DC, I understand what you are saying, but we Wakefield have bull crapped our way into SL on some promises which we did not keep, and we have had many a year to get it sorted, this is not a surprise, this was known for years, and if we fail and get kicked out of SL, then we deserve it more than any other club.
The rules are there, like em or not, but our pi55 pot approach to this over the last few years is the reason why we are in the brown sticky smelly stuff !'"
I also see what you are saying but I think we all either in business or personally make promises we don't keep.I promise to loose weight every year but it doesn't happen
I have a business in Wakey and my customers promise to pay in 30 days but actually pay in 60 and then I have to promise my supplier when my customer pays me I will pay them it just go's on and on. It's not easy out there and if you have to make false promises to buy some time then you make them.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I also see what you are saying but I think we all either in business or personally make promises we don't keep.I promise to loose weight every year but it doesn't happen
I have a business in Wakey and my customers promise to pay in 30 days but actually pay in 60
and then I have to promise my supplier when my customer pays me I will pay them it just go's on and on. It's not easy out there and if you have to make false promises to buy some time then you make them.'"
eh? dont get the analagy? what we are saying here is we have some water and were told 3 years ago to go buy a bucket or the water would be given to someone else, we tried to buy a bucket but it had a hole in it, so we went of in search of a new non holey bucket thought wed found it only to be told that we had to share the bucket by the person who was paying for some of it.
much better, clearer than all that cashflow nonesense.
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