The problem is that, it's not the defeat against Saints, it's the mickey poor 2 seasons that have preceded it.
We've gone from a top 5/6 side and become a side whose ambition is to not finish bottom.

Last day "escape" in 2019 and 2nd bottom in 2020, albeit that Toronto pressed the eject button early doors and then 4 poor results to open up this season.
Granted, we have played 3 decent sides in those 4 games but, how we lost to a Leeds reserve side and then crumbled like a pack of cheap biscuits in the other 3 should have alarm bells ringing for all of us.
We appeared to turn a corner towards the end of last season but, our attacking play has been the worst that its been for over 5 years.
We either need Johnstone to work a miracle or "give it to Dave" and frankly, it's a long, long way from good enough.
Our fete wont be determined by losing to Saints, Wigan and Catalan, the results, if not the manner of them, were no surprise but, there are very, very few signs that we could turn it around.
We look like a side that didn't have a pre season, playing against well drilled opposition.
Usually, Trinity would have 4/5 trial games before each new season, this time, for obvious reasons, we had only 1 and we look underdone, especially with ball in hand.
Hopefully things will improve. Our defence has been excellent in patches but, we cant keep on chucking the towel in when there is a score against us.

So hull actually at Hull Friday night - went on sky to check where it’s been played - gives stats for last 6 games hull 5 from 6 , Wakefield o from 6

The current champions yes
Last years CC winners had 7 1st team players missing, Wigan also had loads missing as well and we couldn't beat them !!

How are these the 3 hardest games when 2 of the teams had half their side missing!!!
You seem to be just buryiing your head in the sand,are you part of the board or coaching staff ?

The difference being when Wigan lose a centre they replace him with an international second row.
When we lose our best winger we replace him with our 4th maybe 5th choice winger.
Just not comparable no matter how badly you want to prove your point.

Your point makes no sense to me.
Surely replacing a winger with another winger is what we should be doing,if you are saying we are replacing with our 5th choice winger and that's not as good why have we got 5 wingers !!
You then mention that Wigan replace their centre with an international 2nd row !!!
Why is that good ? If they were that strong they would have a centre to replace the centre.
These were very weak teams compared to what they would normally have out and were there for the taking

5 wingers like all the players ,Mr Chester has Brough in down to panic buying yet in key position (apart from full back were we had 4.)We got one 6 one 7 ,keep my though to my self on 9 .Think 3 trys in last 3 matches says it all

I slightly different view from the Salford coach of their performance following the defeat to Catalan

Hull have just played out a draw against Warrington, with the game going to golden point.
Will we have enough energy and aggression to wear Hull down?

Well to answer FFoF, regretfully, Aggression nil, energy for 40 mins, 50 mins max !
We cannot match SL teams, dafacto !!!
Yes it hurts but this is relegation year !

So who in our team would you retain if they were all off contract?

POP TART Its more of why did did Chester bring them in.When Finn and Grix left ,(though I say they both should have gone a year sooner.) The team we had was ok .Just needed a tweek at 7 ,and 9 maybe a GOOD Prop Mr Chester decided to go and bring players in who were 3rd choice in a team .Players from a team that got relegated So from is panic buy speed .would not have brought any of those.Hull wanted rid of Westerman ok he is going ok for us but think that just shows how bad some of the pack are .Think if we had brought a bit of Quality then we would not be in this state now.Take Huddersfield brough in a bit of Quality in the halfs last year,and looked a different team . Troubled is ,if Mr Chester had cleared out the back roomstaff earlier(, though the conditioner as been here before the last million pounds game ,and the coach who saved us from the drop brought in is own conditioner because he said there no way fit) do not think we would be in this possion now . Watched Wakefield 65 + years use to go watched Wakefield from the Osset \ Horbury support bus some time just 20 on the bus,seen use get 70+ thrashing a lot .But I watched them because they were the best we had ,and gave 100%.But think at present ithere are players not doing it

Unfortunately can't keep saying 'give CC a chance', as has bee already pointed out, a last game win against London, Toronto going bust and now the same stuff being served up for the 3rd season in a row. Look at how Saints changed when Cunningham was dismissed and Holbrook came in.
Remember when there was a rumour that the Wakefield players didn't like the early starts and training routines of Brian Smith? Well maybe Smith wasn't all to blame and the players didn't like a disciplinarian who wasn't 'pally' with his players?
I feel CC has MC's backing because he's balancing the books.

used to always think we had a chance even against the best opposition - always travelled in hope but as far as I can see our only hope will come against Salford and Leigh - can’t actually see us beating hull kr and yet again we are in the early stages of another injury crisis ! No miller wood Johnstone for at least 4 games. - not that selecting from a full squad makes much difference

Yes it does it makes us into mid table championships side.

I see Chester back to the old play book of blaming injuries. “We are playing it tough at the moment” but that could be said of many of the SL teams but they appear to get through. The game against Hull we have lost Miller but gained three however the player out injured will have the greater impact.
I wonder if anyone at the club can see where we are going or have they just buried their heads in the sand. I fear that the club’s record of sacking coaches speaks for another of the problems.

Yes it could, but how many SL teams have a weaker squad after the starting 17?, we all know our spending does not reach anywhere near full spend, Trinity are well known as being the lowest squad spend. Simple economics.

Trinity have gone through 3 coaches in one season before. We have sacked enough coaches in the past. Who apart from Chester would you have sacked earlier?
You can fear all you like but you are just making it up again.

I should have said sacked during the Carter reign. I agree others have done what was necessary but unfortunately not those in charge currently.

He's famous for it. "We're doing it tough at the moment" seems to be a line he trots out regularly these days but what does it actually mean? Strangely, when we had almost half a team out against Leeds and Huddersfield beating both and losing by 2 at Castleford the season before last around this time, he wasn't saying it then. The line was " This is a team that will never get beaten on effort, the team spirit was all to see and we had guys out there who haven't played in the first team before"
Trinity side v Leeds 22 - 4 -19 result 26 -24
Jowett, Jones-Bishop, Lyne, Caton-Brown, Kershaw, Reynolds, Hampshire, Kopczak, Crowther, Arona, Kirmond, Horo, King subs Pauli, Fifita, Annakin, Hirst
Leeds side for the record:
Lolohea, Briscoe, Watkins, Newman, Handley, Sutcliffe, Myler, Peteru, Dwyer, Albert, Ferres, Trout, Merrin
subs Singleton, Donaldson, Oledski, Parcell.
That's just an example of what we were capable of without Miller, Johnstone, Tupou, Ashurst et al. No I don't think we're "doing it tough" we're clueless, rudderless, toothless, error ridden, unfit, have no leadership from the coach down to the captain and currently cannot compete for 80 minutes.

Hampshire, Pitts, Batchelor, Arundel, Kaye, Alex & Brad Walker, Kershaw. All players outside what would arguably be our strongest 17 and all very capable guys that have plenty of first team experience either here or at other clubs. And we’ve just released Tangata so we can bring in Fifita#2. Then there’s lads like Croft, Bailey, Aydin, Bowes etc on top of that. How much strength in depth do we need? People on here were actually commenting pre-season that we’ve probably never had as much depth down to squad numbers in the mid-20’s. It’s more or less comparable with any other team and in fact we have a deeper squad than even some of the top clubs went you actually look at it, hence why Wigan are having to play two second row forwards in the centre and an 18 year old kid on the wing and Leeds are pretty much playing their academy. Now whether the squad is correctly balanced is another matter altogether but that is all about how you use your available funds.

We also don’t quite get the cheapest squad moniker either, Salford now get that dubious honour by all accounts along with Leigh, although the latter will probably spend more as the season goes on.

As a club we need to get away from playing the poor little victim excuse all the time. Injuries happen in RL and we now have the squad size to be able to deal with it. If we can’t then look at the guy that put that squad together. Chester claimed we were ‘doing it tough’ after the first couple of games. We were without just 2 first choice players at that time, Wood & Battye. That isn’t doing it tough, it’s making excuses to cover your own inadequacies.

Have to agree and just to add a little more, does anyone know what our first 17 is anyway?
OK, most of the threequarters pick themselves, but the forwards are another thing. I really don't know who are the preferred 8-13.

I think CC is still trying to replace Grix. He was our main go to man in attack, Jowitt is getting close with his excellent cut out pass though.

I don't think CC knows how to attack any differently then using a full back, would explain why he brought in Gigot.

Just a couple of crash balls, a drop off and then have a half back pass out the back to the full back. It's the same thing each time but other clubs know this and as soon as we get the ball to the #1 they are closed down.

We need some different ideas, get Hampshire into half a gap and he will be through.

I agree with everything you said. I just think he is limited in what he can buy.
When Giants can get Sezer or Hull get Reynolds, we have to shop at a lower level.
And last time we had to do it mid way through season so Gigot was all that we could get.
Given time he went and found Lino who is clearly not Sezer but I think he'll be good.
Unfortunately we need to do it again with a Hooker.
That's really the only reason I want to give him time.
I don't think he would have made some of those purchases if he'd had a choice.

If we can entertain any sort of offer for Fifita, we can have our pick of most halves in the NSW or QLC comps which is exactly what Sezer was when he signed for Hudds, granted after that he had an extended run for the Raiders and picked up some really good form in the interim.

Reynolds was told to find another club by Wests, no other club in the league wanted him, again he would have just played in the feeder comps, unless there was an injury.