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| Having diabetes doesn't stop you trying. His performances have been bone idle and lazy. Id give him back to bradford Free some cap space and sign someone that wants to play for us.
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| Thanks Doc.
I think the sudden lean towards Scruton as s scapegoat is getting rediculous.
He isn't at his best but he isn't rubbish.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Thanks Doc.
I think the sudden lean towards Scruton as s scapegoat is getting rediculous.
He isn't at his best but he isn't rubbish.'"
You should know by now that we have an herd of scapegoats for some on here. It's strange how they can metamorphosize from player to scapegoat and back on a game by game basis but some have now lost that ability to ever lose the tag regardless of what they do. I think without a herd many on here would have little to contribute so even if we play well some must always be created.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Thanks Doc.
I think the sudden lean towards Scruton as s scapegoat is getting rediculous.
He isn't at his best but he isn't rubbish.'"
Not been happy with what i've seen from Scruton but i'll give him chance to prove me wrong, if he's had a bit of a blip and has suffered though illness he'll hopefully bounce back.
If not he gets the scapegoat tag for me
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| Scruton has been disappointing so far but he may work better with an aggressive prop with him to get him going.
Anderson is a good straight up and down prop but neither him or Scruton have that bit of an edge to their play.
When Tautai is fit, pair him with one and have the other with Moore.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You should know by now that we have an herd of scapegoats for some on here. It's strange how they can metamorphosize from player to scapegoat and back on a game by game basis but some have now lost that ability to ever lose the tag regardless of what they do. I think without a herd many on here would have little to contribute so even if we play well some must always be created.'"
Just out of interest what is your opinion of his recent (non)performances?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Thanks Doc.
I think the sudden lean towards Scruton as s scapegoat is getting rediculous.
He isn't at his best but he isn't rubbish.'"
Bradford talisman don't dictate and be clever to me love.Go to the games! Sick of people like you that turn up every so often. He's been half hearted and lazy.
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| Can't tackle a 13stone full bk on the run. Look at Moore that's effort!
Oh wait you don't go . YAWN
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| I have seen worse performances far too many times over the years. Wakefield have always been consistent at being inconsistent it goes with the territory. We have made quite a few changes and it takes time for these to fully understand what it is to play for Wakefield. They have nowhere to hide because we do not have the quality of players to be able to make things happen unless they do it as a team.
We now have two weeks off which should give the coaching team time to work and get them performing as a team. I think some are just using the current situation to push forward their own prejudices against certain members of the playing staff and coach. If we see no improvement then I guess his time will be limited.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have seen worse performances far too many times over the years. Wakefield have always been consistent at being inconsistent it goes with the territory. We have made quite a few changes and it takes time for these to fully understand what it is to play for Wakefield. They have nowhere to hide because we do not have the quality of players to be able to make things happen unless they do it as a team.
We now have two weeks off which should give the coaching team time to work and get them performing as a team. I think some are just using the current situation to push forward their own prejudices against certain members of the playing staff and coach. If we see no improvement then I guess his time will be limited.'"
You haven't answered my specific question though?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You haven't answered my specific question though?'" think he has, the way I read it he expects the next game to be playing as a team after a good nice rest
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| Quote ="snowie"think he has, the way I read it he expects the next game to be playing as a team after a good nice rest'"
Yes your right Snowie, I stand corrected. My only defence for not reading it correctly being I had been at the Premier League Darts so was well oiled at the time
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Bradford talisman don't dictate and be clever to me love.Go to the games! Sick of people like you that turn up every so often. He's been half hearted and lazy.'"
Are you kidding. I've been going since before you were born and have a season ticket.
You need a better retort than that Doc.
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| Scruton is a quality forward that is not playing well but i'm confident he will come good soon enough.
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| This is the first time since the squad was completed that they have had chance to actually get together for more than 4 or 5 days without a game. Let us hope that our loss in the cup proves more benefitial than if we had got through.
To keep our band of pessimists happy the break also put increased pressure on the coach because he can no longer point to lack of preparation time. He will have nearly two weeks to work on his team selection in order to ascertain the best combinations using the players available.
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| Nick had a good game against Catalans but hasn't quite hit the straps since then. He didn't want to leave Bradford and only did as a last resort but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to give 100% here. I have seen him put some decent shots on in tackles putting his body on the line and attempted others that haven't quite come off. I'm sure he doesn't want to let himself down and will get back to his best. Wakefield gave him a chance after the troubles at Bradford and I'm sure he appreciates that. In addition you don't want to let your team mates down as well as yourself.
Aside from Nick I think all our forwards have been inconsistent this year apart from Ali. Surely they all cannot be happy with their performances. Considering our squad is the strongest in the forwards we have been disappointing. Honesty about this, hard work and camaraderie can fix this. You've not been good enough is different to you're not good enough. Nick and the rest of the forwards have the attributes to lay the platform with strong aggressive defence and tough, sensible, aggressive carries. They are good enough and hopefully whoever is chosen against Hull will be busting a gut, leading from the front and laying that platform. You are good enough!! Show us..
With all the Agar out threads, player threads etc one thread I'm surprised to see drop off the scale is fitness.. Are we winning enough tackles? Sticking in the tackle first time? Winning the ruck? Even dropped balls, lack of concentration and poor skill levels can be attributed to fitness! When your tired you lose concentration and when you lose concentration you make mistakes. People or players might say they are fit enough. Players may tell you whether they train more/harder here or at their previous clubs. Who knows, but with all the other Agar out threads etc I'm surprised the fitness thread died off and didn't bring about more debate!
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"Nick had a good game against Catalans but hasn't quite hit the straps since then. He didn't want to leave Bradford and only did as a last resort but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to give 100% here. I have seen him put some decent shots on in tackles putting his body on the line and attempted others that haven't quite come off. I'm sure he doesn't want to let himself down and will get back to his best. Wakefield gave him a chance after the troubles at Bradford and I'm sure he appreciates that. In addition you don't want to let your team mates down as well as yourself.
Aside from Nick I think all our forwards have been inconsistent this year apart from Ali. Surely they all cannot be happy with their performances. Considering our squad is the strongest in the forwards we have been disappointing. Honesty about this, hard work and camaraderie can fix this. You've not been good enough is different to you're not good enough. Nick and the rest of the forwards have the attributes to lay the platform with strong aggressive defence and tough, sensible, aggressive carries. They are good enough and hopefully whoever is chosen against Hull will be busting a gut, leading from the front and laying that platform. You are good enough!! Show us..
With all the Agar out threads, player threads etc one thread I'm surprised to see drop off the scale is fitness.. Are we winning enough tackles? Sticking in the tackle first time? Winning the ruck? Even dropped balls, lack of concentration and poor skill levels can be attributed to fitness! When your tired you lose concentration and when you lose concentration you make mistakes. People or players might say they are fit enough. Players may tell you whether they train more/harder here or at their previous clubs. Who knows, but with all the other Agar out threads etc I'm surprised the fitness thread died off and didn't bring about more debate!'"
I agree with the fitness point. It has been Wakefield's biggest downfall for years. But you could also argue that the dropped ball means more defending which tires them out. Any team is going to get tired no matter how fit, but maybe they don't come up with the errors we do, so we get tired quicker.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I agree with the fitness point. It has been Wakefield's biggest downfall for years. But you could also argue that the dropped ball means more defending which tires them out. Any team is going to get tired no matter how fit, but maybe they don't come up with the errors we do, so we get tired quicker.'"
Why do people exaggerate when they don't need to.
I agree we look unfit this year and you have a point.
However the last two years we have looked a very fit and strong team as was regularly commented on on this very forum.
Why it's changed I don't know.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Are you kidding. I've been going since before you were born and have a season ticket.
You need a better retort than that Doc.'"
You told me you didn't go against Hull KR. You must be a very bad judge then because Scrutton has been bone idle and cannot be d since we signed him. Lend my glasses if you want.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"You told me you didn't go against Hull KR. You must be a very bad judge then because Scrutton has been bone idle and cannot be d since we signed him. Lend my glasses if you want.'"
You are correct, I missed that game. I'll check with you next time I consider letting any other part of my life get in the way.
The glasses are not necessary. We clearly watch different things in the game.
I'm happy seeing the good things that are happpening. You can have the other stuff.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why do people exaggerate when they don't need to.
I agree we look unfit this year and you have a point.
However the last two years we have looked a very fit and strong team as was regularly commented on on this very forum.
Why it's changed I don't know.'"
Although we looked fit ter last 2 seasons I still felt that our fitness let us down in some games. Especially against the top teams. Take the catalan game last season for example.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You are correct, I missed that game. I'll check with you next time I consider letting any other part of my life get in the way.
The glasses are not necessary. We clearly watch different things in the game.
I'm happy seeing the good things that are happpening. You can have the other stuff.'"
Give me one good thing Scrutton has done then? RICHARD MOORE V SCRUTTON
EFFORT V NO EFFORT!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Give me one good thing Scrutton has done then? RICHARD MOORE V SCRUTTON
EFFORT V NO EFFORT!'"
Scruton was good on his debut against Catalan but apart from that I have been a bit dissapointed by him but there is plenty of time for him to turn it around.
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