If previous experience counts it will start at about 2,400 dropping to about 1,200 or even 800 on a bad day within 3 years.

Sorry but you didn't. When you were relegated both times there was a direct route straight back to SL. This is not the case now, in fact it's completely different. Unlike ourselves and Fev Cas have not experienced what it's like to be trapped in a lower division. Sorry (again) but you need to give your head a shake if you think Cas wouldn't suffer dramatically in terms of support if they were condemned to Championship rugby with no guarantee at the end of it of getting back in.

Thats a long winded way of saying yes really.
The problem i have always though is, that buy and large the people of Wakefield (and i speak on the behalf of mostly all of them) are an apathetic bunch.
So if it is the case of SL or nothing, we may as well have packed in years ago, ok with P & R you always had a chance, but to think that we have no chance without P & R we may as well be dead now and save everyone the bother, because on assumption, we must remain at the top level for ever, and that in reality for a club like ours (being at risk for 2 out of 2 franchises) is not the case.

Visited Batley and Dews this season already so if I'm visiting again next season, so be it.

WE ARE A SUPER LEAGUE CLUB .... I WILL NOT BE EXCITED P[LAYING BATLEY OR DEWSBURY. WITH MY GLOVER ON BOARD AND IF WE GET NEWMARKET WE WONT BE A SELLING CLUB ANYMORE AND THE 50+ LOSSES WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST.

I've shared my thoughts on this, if we or Cas get relegated and Crusaders stay in, I'm done with the sport at all levels!

You have completely got it wrong what you have said. What you have put bears no resemblance one bit to what I posted.

I've felt much the same as you have before now and I eventually came to the conclusion that I would only be harming my club which would be doubly unfair. There is a great need in this sport to be more inclusive and to stop cutting existing fans out of the picture all the time. Stop treating us like an inconvenience. But alas, I was written off as bitter. You're damn write I was bitter and everything could have been handled much better and the same can be said this round of licensing too.

Its easy to keep fans when only out for a year have a good season and get back up you get the feel good factor and SL to look forward to after that, down for 3 years is a different kettle of fish. Thats why a lot of our fans would have taken last weeks rumour of us losing a franchise for just 1 season until Newmarket is build

We will be back in SL for sure if NM gets the go ahead if it doesn't and still a BV or just drifting around then thats a differant story

after listening to boots an all last night I was close to giving in

if I ever come close enough to hemmings he will get a right gob full from me the bag

Hemmings is just a failed football commentator who has an embarrassing lack of knowledge of RL. The way he has disrespected and bad mouthed Wakefield Trinity this season is a disgrace. He is a scummer you would never tire of slapping

If we didn't get a franchise this time obviously we would then ask the RFL why and what parts of the app we failed and what we need to work on, the ask for a break down of the apps of other clubs. After that we should move on professionally and work on getting back in SL ASAP. I don't believe the theory of once out we will never get back in. Wakefield Trinity playing in up to date stadia with the city's businesses behind it will be an assett to RL & the RFL will and does recognise this. It's AGs job to make sure this happens he has said he has a 10 year plan and along as that means making us a competitive SL club even if we have to take step back he and the club have my full support

there will be a jocks team before they let us back in

What did he say Snowie?

Listen you lot! The Championship is an absolutely fantastic competition to be in. In terms of entertainment value it completely outshines SL. It's played by honest and extremely talented lads who give their all for their respective clubs unlike many SL club players who are just going through the motions in theior cosy little comfort zone. What needs to happen is for the RFL to promote it and educate the public as to just how good this competition is.

My club, Featherstone Rovers, has never had a smell of SL as we too were sacrificed for Paris and London back in 1996, just months after competing in the Challenge Cup semi final in fron of 23,000 fans. Our average attendances at the time were similar if not better than yours and we've subsequently lost around 3000 fans. The franchise arrangement has affected attendances still further due to fans feeling that their hopes and aspirations of playing top flight rugby have been taken away and we're now left with a hardcore home support of 1500 on a good day despite only losing three games in almost two seasons.

However, we have what we have and the BOD at Rovers are as determined as ever that the club will be the best outside of SL both on and off the field of play. We have a great scholarship set up with under 16 and 18 teams beating several of their SL counterparts, a first class community dept, a ladies team, a wheelchair team and are currently upgrading the stadium to SL standard with work having already commenced. I'm telling you all this to demonstrate to you that Being in the Championship is certainly not the end of the world if you have a BOD which is determined to fight the adversity and get on with things regardless.

You seem to have a go ahead chhairman in Andrew Glover so there's no reason why the Wildcats can't do the same as Rovers. He'll need each and everyone of you behind the club if he's to make a success of it in the Championship. Crying in your beer isn't going to help is it?

That's if, indeed you do go down, of course.

That's pretty much the way I feel as well. I can handle relegation if we are the worst in the league but not this when you believe that there are at least 2 applications that are not as good as ours.

If went down I'd hope we would be looking to come straight back not be happy to be a lower division club and end up bitter and angry

I wish I was a kid again!

I would be angry with the RFL because if we go down it makes a sham of the franchise system. The only way I would walk away from the club would be if we didn't show any ambition to get straight back up. This city's only pro sports club needs to be in the top division not a part time league forever

No it doesn't.

Thanks for your thought provoking and considered reply to my posting. I was trying to be encouraging to your fans. I'll not waste my time in future.

I'm not going to blow smoke up your arris old lad - NL1 is in no way, shape or form more entertaining than SL and that, I'm afraid, is a fact.

Sorry if I didn't respond very positively to your encouragement - it was based on a false premise and thus, was a tad patronising.

Some of you really deserve championship rugby league. The way you talk about it and slag it off is sad and you will at least learn a lesson about the lower leagues. Your club is not too good for the championship, and several of the clubs in it would shine in the super league given the chance but they never will. It's an entertaining league but its being treated shoddily by those in charge of the game.

I know about leagues lower than the SL and I'm quite ready for what we may have to cope with

still think there is another twist in the tail