Point of order. You cannot be prosecuted for Trespass as it is not a Criminal Offence it is a civil offence for which I believe you would have to be sued.

an intresting point the parking issue....................................now correct me if im wrong but we have had a radical idea on this one if i view the plans correctly, we are having a car park!

so people may "park" their cars!


makes me laugh because i know for a fact one of the rield owners nearby is already talking about charging to park in his field on match days!!!

Quote ="chapster"God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people who's iq is lower than their weight in tons!'" just had a look on this website and to be honest they do seem to be a bit of a joke in all fairness I don’t think that website is half as good as some of my trolling attempts in the past , so if these people are your competition for your new ground I am sure you are going to be ok, but having said that these people do have a voice and you never know what kind of =#BF0000EDIT are sat in these local council meetings that may listen to the crap they are coming out with, so I wouldn’t completely dispel what this guy is saying . viewtopic.php?f=33&t=421878 =#BF0000BIGAL1

Quote ="chapster"God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people who's iq is lower than their weight in tons!'" just had a look on this website and to be honest they do seem to be a bit of a joke in all fairness I don’t think that website is half as good as some of my trolling attempts in the past , so if these people are your competition for your new ground I am sure you are going to be ok, but having said that these people do have a voice and you never know what kind of =#BF0000EDIT are sat in these local council meetings that may listen to the crap they are coming out with, so I wouldn’t completely dispel what this guy is saying . viewtopic.php?f=33&t=421878 =#BF0000BIGAL1

Lots of Green belt in Wakey - It says on the council's own radio advert that 70% of WMDC is rural.

It's a real shame that this great site at Newmarket is going to be lost to a multi million pound area that will bring entertainment and industry to Wakefield. I rember those great days when I was able to take the wife and kids down to the lovely landscaped area, with nature walks, rare animals to be seen whilst taking a picnic to enjoy the scenery. It made such an action packed day out. Oh sorry Ive just realised I muddled it up with somewhere else that isn't a complete tip. Sorry for the mistake

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I personally think this is a genuinely honest post.
The only way forward with this development is through debate with "all" conserned, I have seen the plans and it is a truly huge development, especially for those who are going to be living amongst it. I strongly believe that the plans are as sympathetic to those residing at Newmarket, but non the less it is going to be a massive change from what is a semi rural backwater (no offence) to a busy industrial, area.
The fact remains however that what is one day a beautiful view out of your living room window, unless you own the land, not always going to be so.
I remember numerous areas around Wakefield that were once undeveloped land and people had unspoilt views from there homes, that are now thriving industrial areas bringing business and employment to thousands of local people, the 41 estate, paragon, junction 32, silkwood park, normanton ind est, Calder island the list is very long, and very important to the area.
I have genuine sympathy for the residents, I would not wish for my house to be in the middle of such a development and neither would anyone else on this forum, so we are all nimbys, and don't let anyone tell you they aren't!!!
What is needed in this situation is debate, and I welcome the views of all, sympatheticly and honestly.

And dont you tell me what i am, i would quite happily have it.

Get some s on the site, they'll soon be wanting a stadium and warehouse development then

The video makes a valid point, that having a rugby stadium in the middle of a densely-occupied neighbourhood causes problems, particularly with on-street parking. I have a solution, however: build it in a field, away from densely-occupied neighbourhoods, with around 800 dedicated parking spaces.

There we go, job done. Now then, if stanleyman is reading this, I know of a site by the motorway, the site of an old colliery, that would answer all the woes expressed by the residents of Agbrigg.

Hope this helps

Debate is already taking place.

They are attacking the propositions we are defending the propositions.

Judging by the website of these people,there is little honesty in the opening post made by Stanleyman,it is littered with contradictions of what these people believe.

Eg. He would happy for the stadium in isolation to be built --- yet there website has a video attempting to show exactly why you wouldnt want a stadium built next to you.

What, even if you weren't a wakey fan, it was going to de value your home or even make it unsellable??? I don't think you would be as quick to make that conclusion, talk is cheap!!!! as could your home be!!!!
As a former long term editor of the daily mail once said, to win any campaign, most importantly you have to engage, and win over the people who are most against you.....or words to that effect!

But i am a fan so its not relevent, i will think for myself rather than have the thoughts mafia decide what i will think.

There is an expression though - you can't please all of the people all of the time - which sums this up. This guy will not be won over in a month of Sundays. That is not to say we don't listen - or more to the point those who are responsible for the decision do, but our job is clear - to make our case bullet proof going forward and no amount of us 'pampering' to his whims on here is going to change anything I'm afraid.

If he wants to argue against the scheme, as it seems, then I'm sure there will be plenty of advice around as to how to go about it. If he wants to make a difference to the scheme then again he can get advice from the relevant quarters.

This forum is here for the benefit of discussion on Rugby League related matters and not to pander to take much pleasure from the failure of this venture.

Do not be taken in by the 'warm and cozy' posture taken - he is trying to win favour from sympathy from these boards - nothing more!

sorry trb, I didn't realise you knew this individual.

And he clearly is not and has the right to express his views, which he is doing.

He does have a right yes just like the anit progress nimbys who have just helped our cause with that horrendoes video. I would be surprised if this is not the same idiot who kicks up a stink at anything wakefield try to do. I take it i am allowed an opinion sir?

Don't be sorry - I merely meant to point out the risks.

I don't know the guy - I was 'profiling' based on details available. I genuinely feel though that they are now making the issue that of the industrial elements merely beacuse they feel that is weakest link. If there were no industrial elements, there would be some other element they didn't like - that's how it goes!

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it

agreed

Without going into this too deeply, there is clearly an awful lot of benefits to Wakefield as a whole. The site will be developed now or in the near future due to it's location. Whilst nobody wants to see a development on their back yard, i would suggest those against think carefully before opposing such a development.

The land WILL be developed whether it's by Yorkcourt or another, and sometimes it's better to work as one to ensure all parties are happy. You never know what the next scheme maybe. I'd love to swap my view of the Toxic tip for Yorkcourt's proposal's!

Yes sir you are sir, and so are they, if they are muppets they will hang them selves given enough rope, bit only if they are allowed to speak.
If someone was building in the fields near my house a bloody great mosque, or gay rollerdisco, or even worse the cas' ground, I would want to voice my opinion, however it would soon become clear that I was just being objectionable for the sake of it, one thing you can't halt is progress and because I don't own the fields, I don't really have that much clout, but I would still want to moan!!!

I've just watched WCCG's video and left the following comment, which is waiting for one of their moderators to clear for publication - it will be interesting to see if it gets on!

=#004080Anyone that pays their road tax is allowed by law to park on the street unless parking is restricted. Having said that, I can see that this video makes the argument very well for locating the new stadium in a non-residential area with good transport links to minimise the disruption, The proposed site is as close to ideal as you could wish for, being on industrial land next to a very busy motorway. My personal preference would have been a City Stadium in Thornes Park, this would have made public transport a very real choice for many fans who will still travel by car to the new site - but at least they won't be blocking anyones drive!!

It would have been interesting to see the views of some of the local businesses in Agbrigg, particularly the corner shops / pubs.

100% correct, well put.

There's another saying "give them enough rope....." to mearly discount peoples views by guessing/profiling makes you look arrogant, or stupid or both.

It gets worse this forum every day, we cant even agree to "pack down" against the only poster brave /daft enough to post something on here against newmarket.

Sure we have ridiculed him and the video ,but a simple cut and paste job of some of the comments on here could be used against the development, remember WAR IS DIRTY!

fancy a wakefield fans cant agree even on their own forum story?????

basically think before you post on this topic!