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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Im a proud supporter of Wakefield Trinity and the City of Wakefield so definitely not Peter box.
I’ve not seen or heard MC or CB or the trust say Balne Lane can’t happen. As for access/parking it would be easily sorted with parking restrictions around stadium and you can’t get better access than City Centre for parking and transport links. If it doesn’t happen it won’t be because of lack of access it will be the same reason nothing has happened with the other proposals.
If we don’t get stadium sorted it’s the end of the club certainly as a SL club simple as that. Belle Vue would be the quickest solution but it’s been nearly a year since that was announced and even mannis cryptic tweets have stopped. Just hope we are looking into every avenue (providing we can get access)
Up the Trin'"
Nothing will happen with this proposal just like the others, but just to repeat it for arguments sake there is no access down there!
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| As has been mentioned Balne Lane is not viable, plenty of land but rubbish access.
End of story.
Mr.Box is just waiting for us to fade into the Championship, then he can give his beloved Cas the ground they are after.
And it will go hand in hand with all the other attractions at Junction 32.
If we did get a ground built at Newmarket, I hope it wouldn't be surrounded by office units and their would be leisure facilities to make the experience more appealing.
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Quote ="Wakefield City"Im a proud supporter of Wakefield Trinity and the City of Wakefield so definitely not Peter box.
=#FF0000I’ve not seen or heard MC or CB or the trust say Balne Lane can’t happen. As for access/parking it would be easily sorted with parking restrictions around stadium and you can’t get better access than City Centre for parking and transport links. If it doesn’t happen it won’t be because of lack of access it will be the same reason nothing has happened with the other proposals.
If we don’t get stadium sorted it’s the end of the club certainly as a SL club simple as that. Belle Vue would be the quickest solution but it’s been nearly a year since that was announced and even mannis cryptic tweets have stopped. Just hope we are looking into every avenue (providing we can get access)
Up the Trin'"
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League
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Quote ="Wakefield City"Im a proud supporter of Wakefield Trinity and the City of Wakefield so definitely not Peter box.
=#FF0000I’ve not seen or heard MC or CB or the trust say Balne Lane can’t happen. As for access/parking it would be easily sorted with parking restrictions around stadium and you can’t get better access than City Centre for parking and transport links. If it doesn’t happen it won’t be because of lack of access it will be the same reason nothing has happened with the other proposals.
If we don’t get stadium sorted it’s the end of the club certainly as a SL club simple as that. Belle Vue would be the quickest solution but it’s been nearly a year since that was announced and even mannis cryptic tweets have stopped. Just hope we are looking into every avenue (providing we can get access)
Up the Trin'"
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League
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| Quote ="FIL"https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/719395/Wakefield-Trinity-EXCLUSIVE-Stadium-plan-twist-council-offer-new-site-Rugby-League'"
and included in that article is the following:
'Developers had been obliged to build a stadium when 60,000 square metres of distribution space had been occupied.
But the first development on the site of a cold store called 'Newcold' was surprisingly excluded from this obligation.
Box had claimed 'Yorkcourt' have accepted that the 'Newcold' development will now count towards that total, bringing further cause for optimism for the people of Wakefield and Trinity fans'
The emboldened part is the interesting bit, how near to the 60,000 sq metres with the add ons and the projected parts do we get to the magical figure?
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| Oh I dunno what the sketch is with trigger points and sq meterage, its all a load of crap being used as an escape from fulfilling obligations.
It isn't about trigger points and sq meterage, if it were and the conmen who are conducting this orchestra, had any intention at any time during the past god knows how long to build it, something would have already happened.
Its not like they don't want to develop the site is it, the trigger points appear completely moot considering the potential of the site.
So we're down to the waiting it out thing, they want us to become irrelevant to the development and will wait as long as it takes.
Even if you chuck in a trigger point reached factor, who actually thinks that will move them to start building, who actually thinks there is any mechanism to force them, there isn't and they won't.
Only Wakefield Council can sort this out, unfortunately they're ******* useless, I'm past Box having some anti Trinity agenda, I think like most Councils they're just p155 poor, not much is gonna change there such is the dynamics of forcing accountability.
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| Quote ="FIL"https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/719395/Wakefield-Trinity-EXCLUSIVE-Stadium-plan-twist-council-offer-new-site-Rugby-League'"
this piece make s me laugh
Neil Rodgers, Acting Corporate Director for Regeneration and Economic Growth said: "Following productive discussions with Wakefield Trinity on the community stadium and the best options for the club and the city, we are continuing to look at the viability of Belle Vue, as well as identifying other sites that might be more suitable, which includes land at Balne Lane, near Wakefield city centre.
"We are continuing to work with the club to look at the feasibility of the potential sites.
"No decisions have been made at this point and [size=200we are working hard[/size to be in a position to provide a full update as soon as we can."
I've yet to see a council worker break sweat, words they can't even back them words up none of them embarrassing from top to bottom
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| Quote ="TRB"A letter has been drafted - just waiting on it being agreed by the ST. I think everyone is back from holiday now, so I will see what I can find out!'"
Sorry, just seen this. Thanks for the update, and hopefully we'll get something back!
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| Just read Nosey Parkers story of a 'breakthrough' on the stadium front for Wakefield. In it he mentions Balne Lane which has been doing the rounds for a few weeks now so hardly a scoop. But what finally made me consign it to the bin marked 'Nonsense' was when he described the site as being, "Just a mile from the city's[u [i thriving[/i[/u shopping centre ".
Now I'm all for talking things up, but 'thriving' is not a word I'd use when talking about our shopping centre.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Just read Nosey Parkers story of a 'breakthrough' on the stadium front for Wakefield. In it he mentions Balne Lane which has been doing the rounds for a few weeks now so hardly a scoop. But what finally made me consign it to the bin marked 'Nonsense' was when he described the site as being, "Just a mile from the city's[u[i thriving[/i[/u shopping centre ".
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Now I'm all for talking things up, but 'thriving' is not a word I'd use when talking about our shopping centre.'"
Haha Just where exactly is Wakefield shopping 'Centre' I wander. Perhaps it's the precinct 'market' he refers to!
'Thriving' was an apt adjective years ago, before the council slowly dismantled it.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Haha Just where exactly is Wakefield shopping 'Centre' I wander. Perhaps it's the precinct 'market' he refers to!
'Thriving' was an apt adjective years ago, before the council slowly dismantled it.'"
Trinity Walk is just as `thriving` as any other shopping centre I have been to, I don`t think there is an empty unit there and is always packed come the weekend.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Just read Nosey Parkers story of a 'breakthrough' on the stadium front for Wakefield. In it he mentions Balne Lane which has been doing the rounds for a few weeks now so hardly a scoop. But what finally made me consign it to the bin marked 'Nonsense' was when he described the site as being, "Just a mile from the city's[u[i thriving[/i[/u shopping centre ".
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Now I'm all for talking things up, but 'thriving' is not a word I'd use when talking about our shopping centre.'"
Yeah, thriving is overdoing it for the City as a whole but it does say shopping , which I presume means Trinity Walk. Tbh though there's not many City's and towns thriving in the Country bar a few atm.
Saying that I had to go uptown during the dinner time on Friday and I was really surprised how busy it was, with all the little stalls on the precinct and outside the cafes near the Cathedral and up to Trinity Walk, it was fairly packed.
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| I'm sure Donald Trump has a suitable word to describe Wakefield City centre.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Trinity Walk is just as `thriving` as any other shopping centre I have been to, I don`t think there is an empty unit there and is always packed come the weekend.'"
Trinity Walk alone is a small part of the city centre and to be honest does nothing for me.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Trinity Walk alone is a small part of the city centre and to be honest does nothing for me.'"
But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.
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| I can never get over the loss of The Mitre to accommodate The Ridings Centre. ![Crying or Very sad icon_cry.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cry.gif)
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| Quote ="homme vaste"But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.'"
The City Centre is not thriving.
Trinity walk looks good and is generally pretty busy BUT, it killed the Ridings / Cathederal side of the city stone dead.
The Council then made a right royal mess of the outdoor and indoor market, trying to turn it into something that it never was and was never going to be and so we now have a "white elephant shopping centre and market stallls littered up and down the precinct and these are the idiots who we are hoping can sort out the community stadium.
Dont mention the fountain which is just embarrassing and the old Pinderfields and Clayton hospital sites, which have been in decay for far too many years." P1$$ up in a brewery" and "couldn't organise" spring to mind.
Wakefield used to be a decent town centre but, there is no cohesive planning around the area.
We have the Hepworth which is an excellent gallery but, at a substantial cost and the new West Yorkshire History Centre which look great but, at what cost to the ratepayers of the city ??
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The City Centre is not thriving.
Trinity walk looks good and is generally pretty busy BUT, it killed the Ridings / Cathederal side of the city stone dead.
The Council then made a right royal mess of the outdoor and indoor market, trying to turn it into something that it never was and was never going to be and so we now have a "white elephant shopping centre and market stallls littered up and down the precinct and these are the idiots who we are hoping can sort out the community stadium.
Dont mention the fountain which is just embarrassing and the old Pinderfields and Clayton hospital sites, which have been in decay for far too many years." P1$$ up in a brewery" and "couldn't organise" spring to mind.
Wakefield used to be a decent town centre but, there is no cohesive planning around the area.
We have the Hepworth which is an excellent gallery but, at a substantial cost and the new West Yorkshire History Centre which look great but, at what cost to the ratepayers of the city ??'"
This was my point, I was talking solely about Trinity Walk not the City Centre as the original comments from Nosey Parker were.
Agree with the rest of your post - The most frustrating for me has to be spending £5 mil on a nice new shiny market hall that has been a complete failure right from the very off and now a few years later they are tearing it down to build a cinema!
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| Quote ="homme vaste"But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.'"
Why the Ridings got rid of the food court down at the bottom and filled in the first-floor balcony I'll never know. That along with when Trinity opened a fair number of businesses went up there, has left it struggling.
As for the City , with the obvious advent of people preferring to use online stores being the biggest hit on bricks and mortar shops. Plus in Wakefield, we have places just out of the with free parking, like along Ings road where Sainsbury's is and the Ings road retails park, plus to some extent, the new one near the 41 Ind. Estate. Add all the above to some questionable decisions from the Council over the years as a whole, is maybe a reason why Kirkgate being run down as well. Which will hopefully get sorted, as they are meant to be doing it up in stages> It just needs some real investment in the old Cinema area.
The above has changed Wakefield no end from say the 80's & 90's.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The City Centre is not thriving.
Trinity walk looks good and is generally pretty busy BUT, it killed the Ridings / Cathederal side of the city stone dead.
The Council then made a right royal mess of the outdoor and indoor market, trying to turn it into something that it never was and was never going to be and so we now have a "white elephant shopping centre and market stallls littered up and down the precinct and these are the idiots who we are hoping can sort out the community stadium.
Dont mention the fountain which is just embarrassing [uand the old Pinderfields [/uand Clayton hospital sites, which have been in decay for far too many years." P1$$ up in a brewery" and "couldn't organise" spring to mind.
Wakefield used to be a decent town centre but, there is no cohesive planning around the area.
We have the Hepworth which is an excellent gallery but, at a substantial cost and the new West Yorkshire History Centre which look great but, at what cost to the ratepayers of the city ??'"
Definitely agree about the Clayton site but I'm not sure where you get that about Pinderfields, where is it in decay? Stanley Royd all got converted into a housing estate (which they're still extending atm) and they built a new Pinderfields and new Eye Clinic with a huge car park on the site. There literally is no spare land or anything in decay at Pinderfields.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"This was my point, I was talking solely about Trinity Walk not the City Centre as the original comments from Nosey Parker were.
Agree with the rest of your post - The most frustrating for me has to be spending £5 mil on a nice new shiny market hall that has been a complete failure right from the very off and now a few years later [uthey are tearing it down to build a cinema[/u!'"
That literally is one of the craziest things this lot in charge have done to this City and that's saying something. It's not like we haven't got a perfectly good Multiplex just down the road that's perfectly adequate for a City of our size.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"This was my point, I was talking solely about Trinity Walk not the City Centre as the original comments from Nosey Parker were.
Agree with the rest of your post - The most frustrating for me has to be spending £5 mil on a nice new shiny market hall that has been a complete failure right from the very off and now a few years later they are tearing it down to build a cinema!'"
Referring to a previous post from you there is one empty unit on Trinity Walk with another one shortly, Timpsons are relicating their shop.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"That literally is one of the craziest things this lot in charge have done to this City Centre and that's saying something. It's not like we haven't got a perfectly good Multiplex just down the road that's perfectly adequate for a City of our size.'"
There’s some good things happening to the City Centre. The way we use City centres are changing it’s becoming more leisure/shopping mix not just 9-5, the way we shop has changed and the City Centre needs to change with it. Trinity Walk is a massive success, Northgate is becoming a pleasant night out with all the restaurants and a cinema will compliment that part of town. Merchant gateway is getting there and decent bars popping up all over the City Centre. The new market Hall was a disaster and losing BHS has affected the precinct with lots of closed shops but you’ll see the same in most City/town Centres. Watching the mighty Trin at the new community stadium on Balne Lane then short walk to a nice eatery on Northgate what a perfect leisure time experience. The council has held this City back and the way they’ve handled the community stadium is disgusting but the City Centre is a lot better than it was.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"But NP`s comment was not about the city centre as a whole, it may not do anything for you but does not mean its not thriving - The amount of people through its doors and attraction of the big retailers proves it is.
Granted the introduction of TW was the last nail in the coffin for the Ridings centre but it was on it`s way out anyway. As a whole there is no denying Trinity Walk attracts more visitors to Wakefield.
FWIW it is not for me either, I am gutted there is no longer the market in the city which leaves me going to Huddersfield on a Saturday morning.'"
Go a bit further to Bury mate they have a cracking market!
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| What does it say in League Weekly about stadium? Anything we didn’t know?
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