Actually that can't happen, concerts aren't permitted under under the planning permission....

And with that sentence you've just undone your own argument.
Why would think a concert could take place if it's against the planning law. If wmdc now announced the concert we'd all be pointing at the line about not being in any way linked to the original planning so it was obvious they were going to hold a concert. Why didn't you object?

I was being sarcastic...

why are we blaming everyone apart from the previous owners and board, If it wasn't for Wakefield council where would we be?! people seen to forget they have helped us in the past. Yes I am as gutted at the current situation but playing the blame game isn't going to do anything.

I for one cant see any light at the end of the tunnel............

I cant see us being able to buy the super bowl and Oasis gym(which is under offer) cause even if we where given some money this could easily take £1,000,000 to acquire and then even if we did get that how do we get the stadium back from BOI? I do genuinely think we need to ground share it would cost less than the 250k a year we are spending now.

Please tell us where you would like to build this shared ground. You won't get a more central site than Newmarket.

Under offer? Is this correct?

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Under offer? Is this correct?'" According to the estate agents advert yes.... www.christie.com/en/leisure_oppo ... /wakefield

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Under offer? Is this correct?'" According to the estate agents advert yes.... www.christie.com/en/leisure_oppo ... /wakefield

Please tell me where I implied we build one?! if I don't think we can afford to build one for ourselves why would I think we could build one to share........

it was meant that we share with a club with a ground....

just a quick one . would it make a difference for us to object to the next phase of buildings. ie the new Mc Cains chip facility and the new storage facility, which are planned after the great white lump is finished.

Quote ="wtw"According to the estate agents advert yes.... www.christie.com/en/leisure_oppo ... /wakefield'" If its the offer I think it is it fell through. I don't think Christies are the agent any more as there is another agents sign up.

Quote ="wtw"According to the estate agents advert yes.... www.christie.com/en/leisure_oppo ... /wakefield'" If its the offer I think it is it fell through. I don't think Christies are the agent any more as there is another agents sign up.

In simple terms yes, we will object to the next planning application on the grounds that the previous application was excluded from the S106 Agreement. We will also ask as many of you to object as well.

Unless of course that application is a reserve matters application and leads to the building of the Community Stadium.

From what iv heard they are reluctant to take on new customers...

It ultimatley depends on whether you think that if the council have acted unlawfully, we should let them off?

Also, given what we have know about Newcold has been known for some time, and we have spent ALL of that time trying to do exactly what you suggest, not play the blame game, how much longer do we try to do this and again, do we then not fight at all and give in?

Thirdly, who do the club share with (outside the City of Wakefield) and given that non-match day revenue is the key to a successful club how is that achieved renting a third-party stadium outside of Wakefield?

I see your point exactly but would we be in a worse financial situation ground sharing?! I don't think we would!

We can blame and blame and blame it won't change what's happened and while complaining let's try and resolve the problems rather thank banking on getting anything from YC or the council!!

One quick question, if we do take legal action as it looks likely we will have to get anywhere and we win our case and NC is put on the 106 what do people think would happen.
The 2m from the council looks as though its long gone and I don't see YC having x millions to build us a ground.
So all I want to know is what are wwe hoping to get if we win.

I don't think we'll get anything, however it may stop YC from developing the site further.

Do we have any other funding in place or if not in place then guaranteed should the project go ahead or funding that we know 100% is accessible to us once we sign contracts to build or sources of funding identified that yet need applying for?

If yes to any of the above, can someone categorise the sources for me and give approximate values?

Thanks

But wouldn't that be cutting off our nose to spite the face of Wakefield, because if the development didn't go ahead look at all the jobs that would be lost for the area

There's quite a long letter in the League Express today from a guy called Neil Rodgers who is Service Director for planning etc. at WMDC in which he explains that it's nothing to do with the council and that it was made clear that Newcold would not count towards the stadium development.
There are a couple of things however that I'm not clear about. In it he says that legal advice was sought from the councils own planning lawyer. That will be the one who they didn't appear to be able to provide the info from under the FOI request as I understand it ????

The other thing is that he says the size of the development (Newcold) is below the 60K square Mtrs threshold for contributing toward the stadium. This to me reads as though for the stadium to start, any one building that goes up has to be more than 60k sq mtrs whereas I though it was the total of any developments that may take place had to equal or exceed this figure. ?????

I guess that's why they went for a 42m high unit rather than 18. Twice the amount of storage for roughly the same footprint.

This. It's obvious Yorkcourt have no intention of building the ground whatever the outcome, but it will stop them getting rich at our expense. Problem is a very public battle with the council and its planners and a developer won't help us moving forward. Nobody else will touch us with a bargepole in the future. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. I suppose at least we'd go out swinging and with the moral high ground but it's an expensive way of doing it.

The more I read on here the more concerned I become that before TRB, IA and sandal cat became involved in this project nobody seems to have had a clue what was going on. I would love to know who agreed to these clauses in the first place because it just does not seem as though they understood the information that was being given to them.

I think it's that bit that has lead the council to apparently side with the developer. They have various growth targets set for them by government and i guess Newmarket was a large part of the amount the council had earmarked to be able to hit those figures. They know if Yorkcourt bailed out, which is likely if they are 'forced' to build a stadium, the whole thing stops and not only they are in the shizzle because of that but the whole area suffers as a result with less jobs, less income from the business rates etc etc. All of which doesn't help us get that elusive stadium as i'm sure the next piece of rhetoric that appears from them in the press will be along those lines and i imagine most of the wider Wakefield public would prefer jobs available and lower council tax rises than us having a ground. I can see this getting very messy.

The 60,000m2 is a cumulative figure and they know it!

This statement, and others like it from different Council mouthpieces, are just spin statements designed to fog the truth.

They've Fecked Up and they know it, now it's about how they can get themselves out of it without losing face.

As for the 'it's got nothing to do with us' guff, who enforces planning legislation then because if it's not the Council I'm at a loss as to who's responsibility it is!

This is disgraceful and I just wonder if a can of worms lies just beneath the surface we're likely to scratch if this goes further!

This sums it up for me.